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Offline pakkun

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Help with Chopin Nocturne 9-1 bar 14
on: November 24, 2024, 01:50:35 PM
Hello ! I am learning Chopin Nocturne Op.9 no.1, I have been practicing it for 5 days now, I don't have any trouble so far, the (7), (11) and (22) polyrithms are manageble and I can already do them smoothly, a few polishes to make but no trouble at all, but I would like to ask you for an advice for bar 14 : there is a (7) polyrithm, and I would like to ask you which is the best way to play it together with the left hand to make it sound good.
I probably don't have the passage fully in my hand yet, but when I play bar 14 it sounds a little robotic. Do you have any advice for the best way to play it ?  :)

I attached an image of the bar to this post, quoted inside the two green lines.

Thanks in advance  ;)

Offline lelle

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Re: Help with Chopin Nocturne 9-1 bar 14
Reply #1 on: December 04, 2024, 01:36:48 PM
I do not consider any of these Chopin polyrhythms as something that needs to be palyed mathematically correct. Rather, the figure should be played freely over the left hand, which should remain steady. Basically, sync the beat starting the right and left hand figures together, and then the right hand is basically playing freely, with no note synced together with the left hand until the first beat in the next bar.

You can practice it by playing the right hand first three notes as a triplet and then normal 8th notes, and then the other way around; first four normal eight notes and the final three as a triplet. Then finally, start desyncing the "beats" you have practiced in the right hand from the left hand and try a couple of hybrid versions of the two practice models until you can play the figure freely over the left hand.

Offline pakkun

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Re: Help with Chopin Nocturne 9-1 bar 14
Reply #2 on: December 08, 2024, 01:14:51 AM
Thank you so much !  :)
 

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