path to scriabin fantasy

[hopefulauditionpasser]

Hello, me and my teacher have just finished discussing my repetoire for conservatory auditions.

I was hoping to play the scriabin fantasy as my big romantic piece, but my teacher said I need to explore brahms first.

Really gutted since the fantasy is my dream piece. Can any piano teachers evaluate if her sentiment is reasonable?

For reference my most technical repetoire atm is ravel alborada, while the last chordal piece i played was la soiree dans grenade.

[transitional]

Learn Brahms if you really haven't done anything from him yet, and you can do the Scriabin later.

Have you done any smaller Scriabin pieces?

[hopefulauditionpasser]

Learn Brahms if you really haven't done anything from him yet, and you can do the Scriabin later.

Have you done any smaller Scriabin pieces?

I have not done smaller scriabin pieces.

I could add a brahms intermezzo(eb minor) or capriccio(b minor, g minor) to my exam repertoire, and then learn the scriabin fantasy after my exam? Would that be a reasonable compromise to progression?

I'm taking a gap year after my exam to further strengthen my skills

[dizzyfingers]

Hello, me and my teacher have just finished discussing my repetoire for conservatory auditions.

I was hoping to play the scriabin fantasy as my big romantic piece, but my teacher said I need to explore brahms first.

Really gutted since the fantasy is my dream piece. Can any piano teachers evaluate if her sentiment is reasonable?

For reference my most technical repetoire atm is ravel alborada, while the last chordal piece i played was la soiree dans grenade.

If you can play Ravel well, like Alborado, then your technique is probably ready for Scriabin, not sure about the b minor fantasy - it's reportedly very difficult - why don't you do some etudes instead?  Your teacher's reservations may be more about the musical scope, rather than technique.  I would think some Chopin ballades and scherzi would be required first, rather than Brahms.  How about the d# minor etude and some others from op 8 and 42?   The b minor rhapsody op 79 would be an engaging piece, if you need to stick with Brahms.

[essence]

Nothing stopping you exploring the fantasy as a side gig on your own. It is, indeed, very difficult, and apparently even more difficult to memorise (I never remember anything).

Late Brahms is wonderful, but an acquired taste?

Teachers, IMHO, should not be dictators, but should empower and encourage the pupil.

Have you tried any Brahms? The Handel variations are challenging but maybe an option?

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Brahms isn't directly related to the Scriabin Fantasy but is beneficial to include in your repertoire. But I would also say that you should get some smaller Scriabin pieces before playing such a big work. Second essence - try some of the etudes, and maybe some poemes too for some more lyrical pieces.

[hopefulauditionpasser]

thanks for all the helpful replies.

i will pick up the scriabin op.12 no.8 and brahms late intermezzo and see where it takes me.

[essence]

Or even op 8 no 12 

To be honest, it has been played so many times,  there are many more etudes in op 8 worth exploring.

My favourite is no. 11, but several others can display your talents better than no 12, which can be merely a bash (unless Horovitz or similar).

Check out gilels for late brahms, it may inspire you.

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