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Offline BoliverAllmon

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what grade am I in?
on: March 16, 2005, 05:20:56 PM
So I have read all this stuff on grades and was curious where you would put me in a grade system. My repertoire goes as this;

bach invention 1,4,8,13
Chopin Waltz 34/2 in a min.
Haydn sonata #34 in D maj. first mvt.
Beethoven sonata 2/1 first mvt.

This is the top tier of what I have played well, I also learned first mvt to shostakovich's 2nd PC, but sucked royally at it.

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Offline Fr.Chopin

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Re: what grade am I in?
Reply #1 on: March 17, 2005, 02:27:59 AM
It is really hard to tell. Well, you can try some of the programs. Fur Elise is level 7. Chopin's nocturne OP.9No.2 is level 9. And Fantasie-improptu is ARCT

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Re: what grade am I in?
Reply #2 on: March 17, 2005, 12:41:05 PM
It is really hard to tell. Well, you can try some of the programs. Fur Elise is level 7. Chopin's nocturne OP.9No.2 is level 9. And Fantasie-improptu is ARCT

I am capable of playing both the chopin and fur elise without  too much of a problem. FI on the onther hand would give me fits for quite a while.

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Re: what grade am I in?
Reply #3 on: March 17, 2005, 12:58:13 PM
It is really hard to tell. Well, you can try some of the programs. Fur Elise is level 7. Chopin's nocturne OP.9No.2 is level 9. And Fantasie-improptu is ARCT

Are you serious ?? What's your program? I tought fur elise was level 4 in ABRSM.

Offline Fr.Chopin

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Re: what grade am I in?
Reply #4 on: March 17, 2005, 02:06:16 PM
It depends on your location. I am in Canada.

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Re: what grade am I in?
Reply #5 on: March 17, 2005, 04:40:59 PM


Are you serious ?? What's your program? I tought fur elise was level 4 in ABRSM.

5 I believe. Not a beginner piece like everyone seems to think.
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Re: what grade am I in?
Reply #6 on: March 17, 2005, 05:09:13 PM


5 I believe. Not a beginner piece like everyone seems to think.

still overplayed and butchered all the time though.

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Re: what grade am I in?
Reply #7 on: March 19, 2005, 06:01:27 AM
I think Für elise could be awarded the most overplayed piece by beginners along with moonlight sonata 1st movement, Because they are both technically unchallenging. But i think only a dozen of those beginners play it like it should be played  ;D

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Re: what grade am I in?
Reply #8 on: March 21, 2005, 03:47:25 AM
I think Für elise could be awarded the most overplayed piece by beginners along with moonlight sonata 1st movement, Because they are both technically unchallenging. But i think only a dozen of those beginners play it like it should be played  ;D

probably true

pathetique is beginning to become the same story.

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Re: what grade am I in?
Reply #9 on: March 21, 2005, 06:28:27 AM
I would say that Pathetique isn't in the same vein as Fur Elise or Moonlight 1st movement, because it is quite technically challenging.  In order to play the first movement up to speed, there is a lot of practice required to get the fast part sounding good, and even getting the correct notes.  It may be so that people play it too slowly, but in order to play it at the speed prescribed, you need quite a bit of finesse at the keyboard. 

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Re: what grade am I in?
Reply #10 on: March 21, 2005, 07:09:13 AM
Say, Boliver, what was so difficult about the Shostakovich concerto for you?  For me, it was much harder than the Saint Saenz to perfect, as every technicality was crucial.

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Re: what grade am I in?
Reply #11 on: March 21, 2005, 12:57:24 PM
Say, Boliver, what was so difficult about the Shostakovich concerto for you?  For me, it was much harder than the Saint Saenz to perfect, as every technicality was crucial.

well my problems were the speed and the damn arpeggio section. surprisingly the contrary octaves weren't too bad. My biggest problem was how I learned it. When I first started it I simply memorized it. I didn't worry about keeping a steady beat, my rhythmn sucked, and I was using stupid fingering. But I didn't care, I was only memorizing it. well, that was stupid. Once, it was memorized I had 200+ measures of crap that I could play and when I would practice I never seemed to get things done. I think it was because I got overwhelmed and looked at the whole picture instead of just little sections. That and I had a teacher which went ballistic on me and intentionally wanted me to fail when playing this. She just quit teaching me at all.

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Re: what grade am I in?
Reply #12 on: March 24, 2005, 03:53:34 AM
sorry, but what are grades?
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