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Offline jkristiand

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Looking for Chopin piece...
on: March 21, 2005, 11:21:14 AM
Hey there

Im looking for a piece by Chopin, but I can't seem to find it.
Perhaps you can help me: it's in Eb- and I think it's a concert..
I heard it in the movie "Ondskan". I know the first four tones in the
melody are Bb Gb D and Eb.. Any help appreciated.

Regards JKD

Offline steinwayguy

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Re: Looking for Chopin piece...
Reply #1 on: March 22, 2005, 05:25:22 AM
Well I only know of one piece in E-flat minor by Chopin... That's the Etude Op. 10 No. 6. But it doesn't match your description. Sorry  ::)

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Re: Looking for Chopin piece...
Reply #2 on: March 22, 2005, 06:38:34 AM
According to https://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~gustafs/piano/Chopin/ there are only 5 pieces and none of them fit that discription except maybe the last one, I don't know if i've ever heard of it before.

Op.6-4       Mazurka - Eb minor
Op.10-6     Etude - Eb minor
Op.26-2     Polonaise - Eb minor
Op.28-14   Prelude - Eb minor
Op.74-17   Song Hymn from the Tomb - Eb minor

Offline rafant

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Re: Looking for Chopin piece...
Reply #3 on: March 22, 2005, 12:52:10 PM
Perhaps the Nocturne Op 9 No. 2 in Eb major. Although its initial tones are Bb - G - F - G - Eb

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Re: Looking for Chopin piece...
Reply #4 on: March 22, 2005, 04:20:40 PM
Maybe s/he edited the post, but s/he never said Eb minor.
The closest to a concert in Eb by Chopin is the Grande Polonaise Brillante Op. 22.

Here's something that might interest you, about the movie's music (maybe it's not Chopin after all?):
the music is composed by Francis Shaw who did all the music.
He was up in the Italien mountains in a village; Molini di Triora. He wrote it down during a night and we recorded it on a simple tape recorder next day. The director Mikael Håfström got it by mail some days after and just loved it.....
The actress (Marie Richardsson) who acted as the Mother got it and practiced a couple of weeks before we shot the scenes. In the end Francis recorded it again and it is him playing we hear in the film.
A modern house without a flush toilet... uncanny.

Offline pianowelsh

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Re: Looking for Chopin piece...
Reply #5 on: March 22, 2005, 05:58:10 PM
I would think its most likely the nocturne as its one of his most famous pieces.

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Re: Looking for Chopin piece...
Reply #6 on: March 22, 2005, 09:43:32 PM
According to https://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~gustafs/piano/Chopin/ there are only 5 pieces and none of them fit that discription except maybe the last one, I don't know if i've ever heard of it before.
Actually there are 6 - he wrote a prelude when he was at the end of his life often referred to as the Devil's trill.  I guess this was a prelude to death...
Refer to the bottom of this thread for a recording:
https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,6296.msg62504.html#msg62504
A modern house without a flush toilet... uncanny.

Offline pseudopianist

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Re: Looking for Chopin piece...
Reply #7 on: March 22, 2005, 11:18:06 PM
Maybe s/he edited the post, but s/he never said Eb minor.
The closest to a concert in Eb by Chopin is the Grande Polonaise Brillante Op. 22.

Here's something that might interest you, about the movie's music (maybe it's not Chopin after all?):
the music is composed by Francis Shaw who did all the music.
He was up in the Italien mountains in a village; Molini di Triora. He wrote it down during a night and we recorded it on a simple tape recorder next day. The director Mikael Håfström got it by mail some days after and just loved it.....
The actress (Marie Richardsson) who acted as the Mother got it and practiced a couple of weeks before we shot the scenes. In the end Francis recorded it again and it is him playing we hear in the film.



He said Eb- and that means Eb minor but it could also have been a typo. :)
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Re: Looking for Chopin piece...
Reply #8 on: March 23, 2005, 04:46:31 PM
He said Eb- and that means Eb minor but it could also have been a typo. :)
Does Eb with a hyphen mean minor?  I've never seen this before.
A modern house without a flush toilet... uncanny.

Offline pseudopianist

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Re: Looking for Chopin piece...
Reply #9 on: March 23, 2005, 06:37:34 PM

Does Eb with a hyphen mean minor?  I've never seen this before.

https://secure.classicalarchives.com/validation-ok.html

Not that common but still used sometimes.

But since the theme contains a D and a Gb the changes that we are in Eb (harmonic) minor are quite big.  ;)
Whisky and Messiaen
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