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Offline rach3enjoyer

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Can i play appassionata (third movement)?
on: June 09, 2026, 04:49:00 PM
[/img]Hey guys, ive played the piano for 8 years and I recently heard the appassionatas finale for the first time and i was blown away. I would like to play it but i dont know if its too hard for me. Recent repertoire includes the Tempest third movement, Chopins first ballade (although i struggled quite a bit and couldnt polish the scherzando section),  and Mozarts D minor concerto (first movement). My biggest struggle is with coordination but my fingers are quite fast.

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Re: Can i play appassionata (third movement)?
Reply #1 on: June 09, 2026, 05:25:31 PM
i seem to recall a recent vey similar post from a newbie. it also doesn;t make sense - Tempest last movement is as difficult as the Appassionata in many ways.

Also, what does the poster mean by 'play it'? Perform it? Enjoy it privately? It is not difficult to sight read.

Does Chopin first ballade have a scherzando section? Aha I see it is from bar 138. If the OP struggled with that, rather than the coda, then something is awry.

Let's see if the OP returns. Maybe should get a teacher. Or just enjoy trying out whatever he/she likes.

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Re: Can i play appassionata (third movement)?
Reply #2 on: June 09, 2026, 05:26:45 PM
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Re: Can i play appassionata (third movement)?
Reply #3 on: June 09, 2026, 09:05:41 PM
i seem to recall a recent vey similar post from a newbie. it also doesn;t make sense - Tempest last movement is as difficult as the Appassionata in many ways.

Also, what does the poster mean by 'play it'? Perform it? Enjoy it privately? It is not difficult to sight read.

Does Chopin first ballade have a scherzando section? Aha I see it is from bar 138. If the OP struggled with that, rather than the coda, then something is awry.

Let's see if the OP returns. Maybe should get a teacher. Or just enjoy trying out whatever he/she likes.
Actually this is my first time posting in this forum, and I have had a teacher since i started. (Posting here because I am switching teachers and do not have time to start the sonata with my current teacher) By playing I do mean that I have performed these pieces, of course I struggled with the coda but the octave section after the waltz was way harder for me. I also performed Mozart‘s concerto with a string quartet. When sightreading the appassionata seemed harder than the tempest so I thought it was a good idea to get some answers here. If you want I have videos of the performances I could send you the link to.

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Re: Can i play appassionata (third movement)?
Reply #4 on: June 09, 2026, 09:37:15 PM
In response to OP: how long do you have before you switch teachers? If it's pretty soon, maybe just wait on this particular piece and ask your next teacher after they get to know you.

i seem to recall a recent vey similar post from a newbie. it also doesn;t make sense - Tempest last movement is as difficult as the Appassionata in many ways.
Beethoven Sonatas, Chopin Op. 23, and Rach 3 are all pretty common among both pianists and users of this forum.

whatever he/she likes.
Off topic, but I've never understood saying "he/she" or variants thereof. "They" takes less time to type, and it excludes far fewer people.

Though of course some use "he/she" specifically for the purpose of exclusion...
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Re: Can i play appassionata (third movement)?
Reply #5 on: June 09, 2026, 10:07:21 PM
In response to OP: how long do you have before you switch teachers? If it's pretty soon, maybe just wait on this particular piece and ask your next teacher after they get to know you
I have summer holidays now and start again with the new teacher in july. Just didn‘t want to seem too ambitious so thought I would get some opinions on here first.
Totally agree on the he/she part btw.

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Re: Can i play appassionata (third movement)?
Reply #6 on: June 10, 2026, 03:27:08 PM
i don't   engage brain much when typing here  ;D   I agree he/she is clumsy.

just get the music if you don't have it, and enjoy. You do not have to perform every piece you play.

Indeed, get volumes of all Beethoven sonatas if you don't already, and try them all.

[you know the joke about the young bull and the old bull at the top of a hill looking down at a herd of cows?]

I would tend to say the notes fall under the hand quite easily. Whereas in the Chopin scherzando they do not.       

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Re: Can i play appassionata (third movement)?
Reply #7 on: June 10, 2026, 04:05:47 PM
Quote from: essence link=topic=80402.msg757403#msg757403 date=
You do not have to perform every piece you play.   
Actually im on a pretty tight program and the idea would be to submit two pieces to a competition so the idea would be to perform it.
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This is my performance of the tempest finale

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Re: Can i play appassionata (third movement)?
Reply #8 on: June 10, 2026, 04:36:36 PM
You may like to put this in audition room to get feedback. My impression is that it is pretty solid, but could maybe start being more musically adventurous? How did you finger and pedal the LH opening bars? I also found your ballade - maybe at the time at the limit of your technical ability?

I am no teacher nor competent pianist, but I see no reason why not to play the appassionata? What can go wrong? Even if a disaster, it is still a learning experience. Grasp the opportunity.

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