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« on: May 18, 2003, 09:23:50 PM »

hi Smiley i need any pointers or advice about this piece, and when you studied it did it take a long time. because right now i can play the first 5 pages well but not quite up to speed in the fast spots but its getting there, and i was wondering whether this is normal or am i just bad.? Cry    all comments welcome ! Grin
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« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2003, 09:24:52 PM »

i forgot to mention that i have been working on it for about 3 1/2 weeks now, along with a busy schedule. Smiley

peices i'm playing right now:
chopin ballade gminor
finishing the art of dexterity by czerny
mozart concerto in a major #23 movement 2 Adagio
haydn capriccio
18 preludes by bach & also all the inventions



what else could i work on, when should i start on the chopin etudes
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« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2003, 02:04:57 AM »

3 1/2 weeks, I don't think is a long time to be working on Chopin's Ballade in gm. 3 1/2 months wouldn't be a long time either. You are just scratching the surface of how long it will take. Sounds like you are doing great with it already!

I would suggest, never worry about how long a piece takes you to play great, "to each their own," what's hard to me is easy to you, etc.

You're well ready for the etudes, actually a lot of people tackle some etudes before a Ballade.
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« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2003, 02:11:34 AM »

thanks and for the etudes which ones should i play?
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« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2003, 03:44:30 AM »

Hey! I'm working on that same ballade too!!
(I just started though  Tongue)

I suggest Op.10 No.8, it's great as first etude.
And I also suggest Op.10 No.5...

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« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2003, 04:01:07 AM »

Hey Davek!  I'm working on op.10 no.5 as my first chopin etude.  I've been working on it seriously for a couple of weeks and right now I'm working on getting it up to speed.  It's coming pretty good...  But dang I'm getting bored with it ^^...  But I guess that's probably like most of the etudes because there repetitive to teach the technique it applies to...  Anyways good luck!  
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« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2003, 06:53:59 AM »

What about the Revolutionary as a first etude?
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« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2003, 05:19:26 PM »

the etudes are not repetitive. they are simply structured in ABA form (most of them). They are all AMAZING! My first etude was the 10.4 Presto in C# minor. It looks very daunting but it lies right under the fingers once you get it.
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« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2003, 11:43:46 PM »

ayahav, i was looking at that and it looks and sounds very interesting, could you tell the purpose of this etude? i think that i am going to start with that etude, thanks. Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2003, 02:23:57 PM »

I think what makes the Etudes repetitive is we need to practice it over and over and over for a countless times . you know , when the time you seems stuck at the middle of unperfection , and already beyond controlling basic of etude pieces . That's the most painful part , i m now stuck at the middle of cant reach the max speed of Ocean etude and my finger doesnt seems have enough power to strike as powerful as it's overwhelm fashion .
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« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2003, 10:13:29 PM »

I worked on the Revolutionary Etude last year, and now i've started the Ballade a month ago.
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« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2003, 03:01:09 AM »


I love this ballade so much!! I get so emotional when I play this.

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« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2003, 10:03:22 AM »

Embarrassed  Hmmmm......Am I the only one who finds this one among the weaker of Chopins' works? For a "real" Ballade listen to the Fourth in F-minor. It is beyond earthly description. The d-flat section toward the end, right before the coda is some of the most heavenly piano writing ever set to paper.
http://www.JoeTownley.com  Lots of videos!
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« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2003, 03:13:30 PM »

Yes, I agree with you, John!

I like the forth ballade much more than this one. Particular to me it the second theme with its variations, one of the most beautiful melodies!

Thi
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