New Riddle Thread(2)

[Nightscape]

I'm starting a new thread because the old one is getting quite long.


How to play:
 
1. Only pieces for piano solo, or pieces where the piano plays an important part (e.g. Piano concertos, piano trios, etc.)
 
2. Only mainstream repertory (no obscure composers, or pieces like Scarlatti sonatas whose number is 555 unless it is a well known sonata amongst the 555)
 
3. Only one question per player (A player can only ask another question after being answered)
 
4. Only questions that can be answered with "yes" or "no"
 
5. A player can at any moment in the game ask one and only one cryptic statement from the riddler by asking: “Can I please have a cryptic statement?”. The riddler can choose if his/her statement will concern the composer (if it has not been explicitly and correctly mentioned by name yet) or the piece.
 
3. Penalties:
 
a. Any player can ask as many questions as s/he wants, however if the player makes a guess about the composer's name, the name of the piece, or the opus number, after three “nos” s/he is out of the game (e.g. “is the piece Papillons”, “is the piece by Schumann” and “is the piece Moonlight sonata by Beethoven”, if wrong and asked by the same player would lead to him/her being excluded from the game. However if the player had asked: “is the name of the piece insect related”, “is the piece by someone who studied law in Leipzig” and “is the piece by a deaf composer whose title was chosen by his editor”, that is all right). So, as long as the name of the piece or of the composer is not mentioned in the question, no penalty results.
 
b. If the riddler gives the wrong answer to a guesser's question and therefore utterly confuses and misleads the guesser, the riddler will have to miss a round, that is, s/he must win two games before s/he is allowed to be the riddler again (and eat the erasers of their pencils...)

Here's my cryptic statement:

Aqueous entertainment was among the awards.

[greyrune]

jumping to conclusions maybe but is it the ocean etude?

[rhapsody in orange]

Is the composer born after 1800?

[Nightscape]

Sadly, it is not the Ocean Etude.  But good guess!

Yes, the composer was born after 1800.

[i_m_robot]

Jeu d'eau

[Nightscape]

Alas, it is not Jeu d'eau... but you are definately getting closer!

[i_m_robot]

jardin dans le pluie

[musik_man]

Reflects dans l'eau

[i_m_robot]

Hey that's self answer

go find your own composer

HEHEHEHEHEHEH

lol

jk

that was self's next answer if he says no again

[Nightscape]

No, it is not either of those Debussy pieces.  Mabye you should try asking a question? Or asking for a cryptic statement?

[i_m_robot]

does the composer's name start with an M


it might be gaspard de la nuit

[Nightscape]

does the composer's name start with an M


it might be gaspard de la nuit

No.

[i_m_robot]

Is it impressionistic?

[Nightscape]

It is not impressionistic.

[i_m_robot]

IS it romantic?

ah forget it

Faure: Au bord de l'eau

YEs no?

Mischa Levitski: The Enchanted Nymph - Feux follet - Undine

[pianomann1984]

Liszt  Jeaux D'Eau De la Villa D'Este

[chopinisque]

Is it by Debussy?  (If yes, that's an absolute gve-away on my part)

[Nightscape]

It is not from the Romantic period.

Thus, it is also not the Liszt piece or Faure piece.

It is not by Debussy.

(I'm curious as to why people assume it is a "water" piece?  Mabye you should ask for another cryptic statement.)

[i_m_robot]

Aqueous entertainment was among the awards.

yes self wonders as well

how can one be getting closer with a suggestion of jeu d'eau if the piece is neither impressionist or romantic

was it composed before the 20th century

[pianomann1984]

i think i know...but i do not want to break the rules...i had my chance   

[i_m_robot]

There are too many pieces to guess  and aqueous seemed like one of the best hints

[i_m_robot]

You still have 2 more Guesses

[Nightscape]

It was not composed before the 20th century.  You were getting closer because the Ravel piece was composed in the 20th century.

[i_m_robot]

Is name of the piece french?

[Nightscape]

The name of the piece is not french.

[i_m_robot]

Does it involve candy?

[Nightscape]

Does it involve candy?

I don't think so..... unless the composer treated themself to some candy after writing it!

[pianomann1984]

Are furry mammals involved?

[Nightscape]

No!!!  But hairy mammals are.

[pianomann1984]

Is it Carnival of the Animals?

[Nightscape]

Remember, this piece was written after 1900.  So it can't be the Carnival of Animals.  And just to clear things up.... the "hairy mammals" I was referring to was people.

Since this is getting nowhere fast, may I suggest that my hint of aqueous entertainment  may have absolutely nothing to do with the music in this composition, and something more to do with its conception?

[i_m_robot]

strange

there was more progress in the obscure composer topic

self shall suggest Gaspard de la nuit: ondine

because self honestly has no other idea what it could be

[Nightscape]

We have already established that the name of the piece is not French and the piece is not impressionistic, and the composer's name does not begin with an M.  Therefore, it couldn't possibly be Ondine.

This composer is not obscure and neither is the piece.

But let me give you another cryptic hint:

"The composer's romantic interest was lauded twice with one of the highest awards in music composition.... as was the composer."

That should give you enough information to figure it out (I can't be too easy, now!).

[rhapsody in orange]

Was the composer born before 1900?

[JamesS]

Was the composer Russian?

J

[Nightscape]

The composer was not born before 1900.

The composer is not Russian.

[pianomann1984]

I do like to be beside the seaside? 

[Nightscape]

?

[Kassaa]

Does the composers name begin with a C?

[Nightscape]

Sadly, the composer's name does not begin with a C.

[Nightscape]

Alright.... I'll give cryptic hint number three now.

"The recently deceased pianist who premiered this work championed it to no end and even won a coveted award recording it."

[pianomann1984]

Are you talking about Moira Lympany? (excuse spelling)

[xvimbi]

Is the piece for piano and orchestra?

[Nightscape]

It's not Moira Lympey.  (?)

And yes, it is for piano and orchestra.

[xvimbi]

The composer is Samuel Barber (1910 - 1981)
The piece is his Piano Concerto No. 1

Barber’s love interest was Gian Carlo Menotti; they were partners for 30 years

They both won the Pulitzer Prize twice:
Barber: 1958 Vanessa,  opera in four acts, Libretto by Gian-Carlo Menotti. First presented January 15,1958, at the Metropolitan Opera House; 1963 Piano Concerto No. 1,  Premiered with the Boston Symphony at Philharmonic Hall on September 24, 1962
Menottti 1950 Musical in The Consul,  Produced at the Barrymore Theater, New York; 1955 The Saint of Bleecker Street,  An opera first per formed at the Broadway Theater, New York, December 27, 1954

The recently deceased pianist is John Browning. He premiered the piece in 1962with Erich Leinsdorf and the Boston Symphony at the inaugural celebration of New York's Lincoln Center for the Performing Arts

[Nightscape]

You are absolutely right, xvimbi.  I was waiting for a veteran to sweep in!

Also, the "aqueous entertainment"  I referred to in the first hint was the fact that Barber was given a swimming pool for his home instead of the usual commission for the concerto.

[xvimbi]

You are absolutely right, xvimbi.  I was waiting for a veteran to sweep in!

Sheesh, these kids... It was crystal clear what it was, I don't know how much more info one needs  only whether you were referring to the sonata or the piano concerto was not quite clear to me.

In any case, I have little time these days, so I'd like to pass on the honor to present the next riddle to the first person who wants it.

[Nightscape]

If no one else responds by tommorrow, I'm claiming it again. 

[i_m_robot]

claim away

self likes a challenge

[Nightscape]

Ok then!  This one I promise will be easier than the Barber.  Here's your hint:

"This piece is said to be the synthesis of several musical styles that were popular at the time."