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Offline i_m_robot

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La Chasse
on: May 07, 2005, 05:39:19 AM
Liszt -Paganini Etude

Why this one no get so much recognition?

It are seem fun to play - self attempting to learn it
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Re: La Chasse
Reply #1 on: May 07, 2005, 09:27:42 AM
I wonder why u are posting all these topics about pieces without a real question.
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Re: La Chasse
Reply #2 on: May 07, 2005, 09:39:47 AM
I wonder why u are posting all these topics about pieces without a real question.

no question?

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Why this one no get so much recognition

This are question

why people always talk about la campanella and not this one?

self only open two topics to discuss two different pieces

and if you're not going to discuss it don't reply please ;D
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Re: La Chasse
Reply #3 on: May 07, 2005, 12:21:03 PM
It is the fact that the question is utterly useless for anyone. Why don't people talk about this or that, I can say it about any piece and what value does it give us? But if you talk about the actual piece, what it contains, that is a different matter. Talking about why it isn't popular is just useless. And these Etudes are very well known for any half serious piano solo listener.
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Re: La Chasse
Reply #4 on: May 08, 2005, 03:16:44 AM
Why? Huh? Why?

 >:(

Self thinks it seems fun- want to know peoples opinion on it

You not give opinion on it- you not post, please >:(

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Re: La Chasse
Reply #5 on: May 08, 2005, 11:59:46 PM
Yeah and notice how no one cares.
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Re: La Chasse
Reply #6 on: May 09, 2005, 12:39:10 AM
I am very interested in I_M_ Robot's question.

I suspect Mr. Robot is not a native speaker of English.  He probably has difficulty in repartee with the "wits" who spar with him on this board.  Let's let up on this gentleman, who probably plays the piano much better than he writes.

Let's try to be courteous. 

This piece he is talking about is god-awful hard, almost without doubt.  Hey, I'm intimidated.  I'm nowhere near that level.

I would comment but I don't know a thing about it.  Why doesn't someone brief "self" as to the ramifications of this piece?

If that makes sense . . . . ..

Offline i_m_robot

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Re: La Chasse
Reply #7 on: May 09, 2005, 04:38:13 AM
Yeah and notice how no one cares.

GaaawwwwD you're mean - What's wrong with you? leave self alone? PLLEEAASSE >:(


it seems like it are a piece of intervals 3rds 5th 6th etc at first then it just turns crazy then back to intervals then there some paganini-esque parts then bac to intervals again

trust self after attempting to sightreading it (stupid slow and only the first page) are not as hard as it seems - maybe once played fast though :o

To those (if any) who play this piece, what are some of the more difficult technical aspects of this piece, and things self should look out for before blindly jumping into this piece? ;D
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Re: La Chasse
Reply #8 on: May 09, 2005, 05:15:14 PM

To those (if any) who play this piece, what are some of the more difficult technical aspects of this piece, and things self should look out for before blindly jumping into this piece? ;D


Now that is a question! (The first one wasn't completely stupid though, IMO, but I have no clue about that).

Well, as you said, the "intervals-part" (first part) is really easy - for a Liszt etude! Well, actually I could sight-read it considerably fast, without too many mistakes, and also it`s just Allegretto, so no super fast piece here :D

Anyway, the E Minor passage after that has some jumps in it, with chords, especially RH, well, practice it, it is not so darn hard. Then the intervals story again.
But well, the next thing is mean! glissandi, parallel in both hands. I think this etude is pretty good to actually master this technique, but it is really not so easy (the most difficult part, I would say. Although once you have it down, it is no problem. But it hurts... >:()
And then there is this 32th note passage, well, could be a problem because of the hand-crossing, and because you have to move all over the keyboard with the RH, and that at quite a speed... perhaps you better look at this and the glissandi before starting. The rest is easy. But only notewise! You have to make sure that you play like an orchestra, especially the "intervals-part". Don't know, my edition says: imitando il Flauto /il Corno (imitating the flute / cornet). And that is very difficult for sure.
Okay, hope this helped a bit... Still, take a look or two at all passages before beginning.

Best luck,

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Re: La Chasse
Reply #9 on: May 13, 2005, 08:05:23 AM
I suspect Mr. Robot is not a native speaker of English.  He probably has difficulty in repartee with the "wits" who spar with him on this board.  Let's let up on this gentleman, who probably plays the piano much better than he writes.

sadly nunna this are true :'(

but self appreciate anyway
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Re: La Chasse
Reply #10 on: May 13, 2005, 08:36:19 AM
It's better on violin.

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Re: La Chasse
Reply #11 on: May 13, 2005, 08:48:47 AM
one can play thirds and fifth on a violin? :o
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Re: La Chasse
Reply #12 on: May 13, 2005, 09:09:24 AM
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one can play thirds and fifth on a violin?  :o

<sigh> this is what happens when pianists are not musicians...



https://www.sheetmusicarchive.net/compositions_b/pagcap_2.pdf
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violin#Double-stopping
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_stop

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Re: La Chasse
Reply #13 on: May 13, 2005, 07:06:21 PM
Self should look at original 1837 version. Even better.
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Re: La Chasse
Reply #15 on: May 13, 2005, 10:47:45 PM
Self should look at original 1837 version. Even better.

Where do can one find this version?
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Re: La Chasse
Reply #16 on: May 14, 2005, 12:54:33 AM
I am very interested in I_M_ Robot's question.

I suspect Mr. Robot is not a native speaker of English.  He probably has difficulty in repartee with the "wits" who spar with him on this board.  Let's let up on this gentleman, who probably plays the piano much better than he writes.

Let's try to be courteous. 

I agree whole heartedly. Perhaps Lostinidlewonder was having a bad day. Let's be supportive and nice to each other.
Robot, I think you'r question is thought provoking and interesting. You also have a good point, why are some pieces so much more popular than others. Perhaps they have a little 'something special' within them, a nice melody line or hook which people latch on to?

Anyway, Robot, I'm sure I speak for the magority of users of this board when I say welcome, and don't be discouraged by anyone, your questions and comments are of equal value to anyone elses. Tres bien, mon ami  ;)

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Re: La Chasse
Reply #17 on: May 14, 2005, 08:48:09 AM
robot intentionally speaks in a robotic style for fun, i think its cool and unique, if at times annoyingly criptic (self brain too tired to think)

i like this etude, but i do like the more popular ones more, they are popular for a reason.

i dont really think this is that rarely played, its one of those pieces thats pretty much gotten what its deserved.

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Re: La Chasse
Reply #18 on: May 14, 2005, 11:36:47 AM
Where do can one find this version?
If self sends me a pm i will gladly send it to self. The Transcendental and Paganini Etudes all had earlier versions. Liszt ironed out some of the more absurd difficulties in the later versions.
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