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Offline in_love_with_liszt

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Conspiracies
on: May 17, 2005, 11:04:43 PM
I have a project about conspiracies to do, and am looking high and low to see if there are any associated with famous musicians (particularly pianist/composers). I've been looking for a few days and haven't found much of anything...anyone have some advice or info before I decide to move on?
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Offline Bob

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Re: Conspiracies
Reply #1 on: May 18, 2005, 03:03:06 AM
That one composer's head -- was it Haydn?

Where is Mozart buried?

What cryptic messages are written into Shuman and Bach's music?  What do the Goldberg Variations really mean?  Is there a message or symbolism in there?
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Offline Rach3

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Re: Conspiracies
Reply #2 on: May 18, 2005, 05:09:26 AM
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What cryptic messages are written into Shuman

I'm onto something extremely sinister in his op. 1 variations. It's as if there was a message or word hidden in it, like a code. Was he a spy? An assassin? Is he selling nuclear secrets to the Poles? I knew you couldn't trust those Mazurkas. Always modulating to something.
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Offline thalbergmad

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Re: Conspiracies
Reply #3 on: May 18, 2005, 09:36:58 PM
I read once that debussy was head of a secret group called the priory de sion who believe that they are the true descendents of Christ. His music has apparantly got some secret code in it.
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Re: Conspiracies
Reply #4 on: May 19, 2005, 05:43:55 PM
I read once that debussy was head of a secret group called the priory de sion who believe that they are the true descendents of Christ. His music has apparantly got some secret code in it.

That is interesting. I also heard that Bach was heavy into numerology.

Mozart and Beethoven were Freemasons.

Offline Bacfokievrahms

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Re: Conspiracies
Reply #5 on: May 19, 2005, 05:56:49 PM
I heard Lang Lang's been spearheading the establishment a pretty large conspiracy and apparently a contemporary pianist (Yundi Li) has already fallen by the wayside as a victim to this ungodly cabal. 

But as to real conspiracies, I heard that BoliverAllmon needs to get a haircut. That's right Boliver, your hair's gotten way too long and you're losing respect from all of us.

Actually it's pretty cool that a lot of composers have mystical interests. I too am quite interested in mysticism and I wonder if the quality that draws me to music is perhaps related to that which draws me to mysticism.

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Re: Conspiracies
Reply #6 on: May 20, 2005, 04:39:16 AM
That is interesting. I also heard that Bach was heavy into numerology.

Mozart and Beethoven were Freemasons.

I hear if you play Mozart's music backwards you'll hear "Paul is dead" over and over.
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Re: Conspiracies
Reply #7 on: May 20, 2005, 04:42:05 AM

But as to real conspiracies, I heard that BoliverAllmon needs to get a haircut. That's right Boliver, your hair's gotten way too long and you're losing respect from all of us.



That is so funny. I had gone several months without a haircut (busy and broke). I finally bit the bullet and got a haircut last Saturday. LOL. Timing man.

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Re: Conspiracies
Reply #8 on: May 21, 2005, 02:52:04 PM
Serial music was really used to pass information in the form of a code during the world wars.  Schoenberg, Webern, Berg... they are just sending coded information with sound.


Mozart and Masons group.
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Re: Conspiracies
Reply #9 on: May 22, 2005, 12:35:52 AM
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Serial music was really used to pass information in the form of a code during the world wars.  Schoenberg, Webern, Berg... they are just sending coded information with sound.

Aha! I knew it!
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Offline pianonut

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Re: Conspiracies
Reply #10 on: May 22, 2005, 12:54:54 AM
there once was a pianist who digitally surveyed his audience while playing *using cell phone layed out upright at an angle facing audience on the right side of the piano.   he was inordinately self absorbed and wanted to know the audience reactions immediately so he would know if he should stand up and bow or run away.

other conspiracies:  blind pianist who sits on braille music, while pretending he has it memorized.
do you know why benches fall apart?  it is because they have lids with little tiny hinges so you can store music inside them.  hint:  buy a bench that does not hinge.  buy it for sturdiness.

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Re: Conspiracies
Reply #11 on: May 22, 2005, 04:04:56 AM
Shostakovich putting himself and Stalin in his music (Tenth Symphony)


Shostakovich's music.... forever the composer giving the finger to his superiors.
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Re: Conspiracies
Reply #12 on: May 22, 2005, 04:18:17 AM
Shostakovich putting himself and Stalin in his music (Tenth Symphony)


Shostakovich's music.... forever the composer giving the finger to his superiors.

yes his music can be quite controversial.

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