Tempo for Grande Valse Brilliante

[BoliverAllmon]

Which tempo do you prefer. something like Rachmaninoff's recording on the slower end or something like Dinu Lipatti with blazing speed?

boliver

[viking]

Well.........my opinion would be a really fast tempo, but not blazing speed.  Something quick but not insane, presto but not prestissimo. (safer interpritation?)
SAM

[BoliverAllmon]

Well.........my opinion would be a really fast tempo, but not blazing speed.  Something quick but not insane, presto but not prestissimo. (safer interpritation?)
SAM

that's kinda what I was thinking. The melodies get boring fast at a slow tempo (to me at least).

boliver

[Kassaa]

A good tempo for dancing.

[Alde]

A good tempo for dancing.

I don't think these waltzes were intended as dance music.  How would one dance to the Minute Waltz?  I believe the Chopin Waltzes are pieces inspired by the waltz.  Another good example would be Ravel's La Valse.

[BoliverAllmon]

true

[Rockitman]

Excuse me but aren't there 4 different valses by Chopin titled Grand Valse Brilliante?

I assume you are speaking of the first  Op18 #1?

I have found 200bpm to be a nice tempo.    Somebody else was right,  too fast loses it's appeal to me. 

[BoliverAllmon]

Excuse me but aren't there 4 different valses by Chopin titled Grand Valse Brilliante?

I assume you are speaking of the first  Op18 #1?

I have found 200bpm to be a nice tempo.    Somebody else was right,  too fast loses it's appeal to me. 

yeah the first one.

[Floristan]

My personal preference for this waltz is for pretty damned fast, like Lipatti.   It's very sprightly and not really danceable by most of us (I'm excepting ballet).  As with all pieces, if one plays musically, and not just mechanically, any tempo can be convincing.

[BoliverAllmon]

My personal preference for this waltz is for pretty damned fast, like Lipatti.   It's very sprightly and not really danceable by most of us (I'm excepting ballet).  As with all pieces, if one plays musically, and not just mechanically, any tempo can be convincing.

I don't know about any tempo. Listen to Rachmaninoff perform this waltz and you will be bored to tears. He plays it musically, but just doesn't fit with the music too well.

[Barbosa-piano]

   I believe that the tempo should be a danceable one, Rachmaninoff's is a bit slow, and Lipatti is a little too excited  . I think the best tempos for this Waltz are Rubinstein's and Antonio Victorino D'Almeida (his recordings are exceptional).

                                        I like a tempo between  Rachmaninoff's and Lipatti"s.

[BoliverAllmon]

   I believe that the tempo should be a danceable one, Rachmaninoff's is a bit slow, and Lipatti is a little too excited  . I think the best tempos for this Waltz are Rubinstein's and Antonio Victorino D'Almeida (his recordings are exceptional).

                                        I like a tempo between  Rachmaninoff's and Lipatti"s.

I will see if I have the Rubinstein recording at school today when I go. If it sounds good then that is probably where I will go. I am not 100 percent sure I can get the waltz as "excited" as Lipatti.

boliver

[Barbosa-piano]

I am never sure of the tempo, every day that I play it, it comes out a different way... I played it on a Steinway piano very accurately and fast, but my Yamaha Digital piano at home does not have a very fast action for repeated notes, so it sounds like I am sustaning the same note while rotating the fingers. Depends on the day. I like Rubinstein's recordings because of the pleasant tempo and very clear and precise sound. Antonio Victorino D'Almeida's recording is a pleasant tempo, but exciting and very well marked at the same time.