Estonia and Petrof Prices

[lgyuan]

I live in the US.  I just visited several local dealers and got the offer for the following pianos.  Are they good or there is still room for negotiation?

Estonia - Ebony Satin L-168 - $21,800
Petrof - Ebony Polished P IV - $19,800

Thanks!

[hgiles]

With most dealers there would still be room for negotiation --like moving up to the 6'4".

Yes, ask for the next size up for that money and get out your check book!

[lgyuan]

Thanks, hgiles!

Unfortunately, my living room is probably not big enough for a grand over 6'.  How much should be fair for aforemetioned models?

[hgiles]

My experience has been with the Petrof III, where I was quoted $19,600.   I wasn't much interested in a smaller piano, so I really don't know where the IV would be -- $16-17k seems about right. 

Estonias are reportedly also very nice and should be comparably priced.

I decided on a Walter 190 for $22,500.

[classicarts]

I would have to agree with lgyuan.  Bite the bullet and buy yourself a bigger piano.  You won't regret it later.   

[gkatele]

Estonias underwent a price increase early this year, to the point that a Estonia 190 is listed at $33,000 (US). Assuming a 25% discount, you'd be looking in the high '20's. When I was looking (and I still am) I was looking at a 190, and I hoped to come in with a price in the mid '20's.

The salesweaselperson said, "Ain't gonna happen."

George

PS: I know, 33 - 25% is about 24.....  Just telling you what the salesman said.

[classicarts]

I really doubt it myself if you can get a new Estonia 190 for mid $25,000.  Either you have to put out a few extra grand or buy the Walther 190 or PetroIII which is a little less.  You may want to think about an Estonia's 168.