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Offline happyface94

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Piano Concerti Suggestions
on: May 31, 2005, 08:06:45 PM
My teacher gave me to play the 1rst Rach Concerto 1rst mouvement for next year, and frankly, I don't think I'm up to the task. I'm frightened by the view of the fifth page and I don't quite get some passages of this music. So I'm looking for concerti I can ask he to switch it from.

To get an idea of my skill level, my other pieces for next year are :

Brahm's 1rst Rhapsody
Bach Prelude and Fugue (one of them)
Liszt Un Sospiro
Granados Goyescas 4rth
Schubert Sonata 13th.

I've just entered level 301 of my conservatoire, which I believe equals for College level. (or bac level in Canada)

I was thinking of Chopin's F minor, or even if I dare ask for the E minor (Which I believe exceeds my skill, but seems easier than the op1 from Rach). Another idea was the Schumann but I don't feel as connected to it. Even the Bach in F minor was interesting, but maybe too easy for my level.

The Grieg A and the Rach2 are off limit since other students are playing it.

So I'm looking for suggestions, or difficulty analysis of the Concerti I mentionned to help me choose. Or arguments to make my teacher change that piece, or arguments on why that piece is possible for me.
thx :)

Offline thalbergmad

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Re: Piano Concerti Suggestions
Reply #1 on: May 31, 2005, 08:47:23 PM
For me, there is a large difficulty gap between the solo pieces you are going to be working on and the Rach1. I think the Chopin F minor could be a good switch, or if you can stray a little off the beaten track, the Weber or Mendelssohn Concerto's.
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Offline JamesS

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Re: Piano Concerti Suggestions
Reply #2 on: May 31, 2005, 08:57:02 PM
Yes I agree, I have always considered Rach1 to be harder than Rach2 and it is a long way up from the other repetoire you have posted. You might want to look at Mozart concertos, I don't know them that well so I would hesitate in suggesting any, but you would learn a lot musically and technically from a Mozart concerto. Another possibilty would maybe be Beethoven No.3. Or another good one would be the Ravel G major, not too long and not excessively difficult. There are probably others I can think of, I will post them when they come to mind.

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Offline happyface94

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Re: Piano Concerti Suggestions
Reply #3 on: May 31, 2005, 09:20:34 PM
I had initially thought of the Beethoven 3rd.

The solo pieces were intended to be easier in order to give me more time for the Concerto. Other years of which I have played much harder pieces such as Chopin's revolutionnary study or his popular Scherzo.

I have already played a Mozart Concerto, the 23rd. Which is why this year I get another compositor.

I have never heard of the Ravel, neither the Weber or the Mendelssohn. However, I have this distaste for french harmonies as they tend to be "too atonal" for me. I always prefered the romantic melodies.

How's the Chopin E minor compared to the Rach 1?

EDIT - That is the 1rst Rhapsody, not the 2nd, just looked at my program sheet.

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Re: Piano Concerti Suggestions
Reply #4 on: May 31, 2005, 10:17:00 PM
Why dont you try Saint-Saens num 2?

Dvorak´s is another great option.
The masterpiece tell the performer what to do, and not the performer telling the piece what it should be like, or the cocomposer what he ought to have composed.

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Offline happyface94

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Re: Piano Concerti Suggestions
Reply #5 on: May 31, 2005, 10:30:52 PM
The Saint Saens isnt bad. All my friends have played it, I was trying to be original in my choices thats all. I'll take a look at all those suggestions you've posted. Keep them coming :p

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Re: Piano Concerti Suggestions
Reply #6 on: May 31, 2005, 10:42:55 PM
Bartok's 3rd or Mozart's 20th

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Re: Piano Concerti Suggestions
Reply #7 on: June 01, 2005, 02:19:22 AM
PLAY LISZT TOTENTANZ (Just a suggestion)  I love this piece.  It is easier than either liszt concerto, probably easier than Chopin, Rachmaninoff, or Saint-Saens, and tougher than Mozart, Grieg, Schumann probably, and early Beethoven.  Although easier than most major romantic concerted works, it is a great piece.  Way more fun to play than the Mozart concertos (Most of them) and quite satisfying. Take a look.
SAM

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Re: Piano Concerti Suggestions
Reply #8 on: June 01, 2005, 03:43:58 AM
Mozart Piano Concerto No. 20

Because i'm playing it to :-D

Reallly good concerto...

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Re: Piano Concerti Suggestions
Reply #9 on: June 01, 2005, 05:54:12 PM
I would go with the Beethoven 2nd or 3rd.   the thirid is more difficult, although i personally enjoy the second more.  Rach 1 is really difficult, more difficult than the more popular second.  If you can play the Rach 1, you are just as able to play the Rach sonata # 2....well maybe not, but pretty darn close. 
Mendelsohn is nice, as is the Schumann....well, let us know what you pick, hope i was of some help
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Offline happyface94

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Re: Piano Concerti Suggestions
Reply #10 on: June 01, 2005, 07:05:55 PM
I asked for the 2 Chopin, or the Mozart 20th (Had never heard it before, its GREAT). Anyway, theY'll probably all get rejected, as of which i'll ask for the Schumann unless I can find a recording of the suggestions you guys posted.
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