Fingering for Chopin Waltz in Ab major

[chopinisque]

Hello,

I would like to ask for suggestions for the fingering of the Chopin Waltz in Ab major (posthumous) (no. 16/ 14 for Alfreds) for bars 5 and 6.

In addition, according to one of Bernhard's lists, it is Grade 6.  Could someone explain why it is not placed in the Grade 4/5 category instead?  I find it too easy for Grade 6.  Perhaps there is some difficulty somewhere which I haven't noticed yet.  If so, could someone point it out to me?

Thanks.

[allchopin]

Try 113241 325421.

[chopinisque]

That's the one provided by Alfred's.   I guess what I really want to know is not an alternative fingering but rather whether 11 is allowed and the reason it is fingered like that...  Sorry for being misleading... Any explanation?

[allchopin]

Fingerings are always taken with a grain of salt because how one person plays it may feel uncomfortable to another.  It seems to me that editors always assume the pianist is playing with small hands and thus writes the fingerings accordingly.  The double thumb could be there because a typical person probably wouldn't be able to stretch from the 4 on the previous Ab to a 2 on the next Bb a seventh lower.  If you can, use 213241, but a double thumbing will work too because it only has to slide off the Bb to the A natural which can be done legato.

[chopinisque]

Thank you.  I'll try 213241.