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Chopin: Etude Op. 10 No. 4 in C-sharp Minor

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Frédéric Chopin - Etudes :
Etude, Op. 10 No. 4
Etude Op. 10 No. 4  in C-sharp Minor by Chopin piano sheet music
Key: C-sharp Minor Year: 1832
Level: 8+ Period: Early Romantic
piano sheet music Piano score: PS Urtext (618 kB)
piano sheet music Piano score: Scholtz edition (1270 kB)

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xx How fast do *you* play Op 10 No 4 Chopin etude?
November 04, 2004, 02:40:28 AM by alextryan

I listen to Pollini blaze along at about 180 beats per minute, and then I start my metronome and tick down further and further till I hit around 108bpm, my current sweet spot.  Granted I just started learning it, but I doubt if I'll ever get it faster than 140bpm. 

So I challenge you, in a friendly way, to get out your metronome and figure out your own speed.  I'd like to know where the bulk of normal human beings land once they have this piece polished up. 

xx I'm certifiably insane, but I'm going to learn Chopin's 10/4
February 27, 2005, 02:56:15 AM by mosis

Help?  Cry

After witnessing a friend of mine play this etude a few months after he was at my level of playing, I immediately gained inspiration and determination to learn it for myself. However, I do not wish to make errors in learning the technique and I'm not so sure where to start.

I learned the first 3 measures today, and I don't have much problem with that technique (although I don't know which is the best finginer for bar 3; I'm using 1-3-2-5 for the most part, any suggestions?)

I don't really know which is the "most difficult" part that I should start with, nor do I really know how to play the wide arpeggios in bar 4 without absolutely stressing out my hand and killing myself. Relaxation is key, I'm sure, but I'm not sure how to do that.

Suggestions are appreciated! (Bernhard, I haven't heard from you in a while Smiley)


xx Chopin etude op10 no4
April 10, 2005, 02:15:26 PM by Sekoul

I recently started learning this piece, and although i dont feel like im having any real trouble with it, my teacher says i jsut cant get it. Apparentlyl, i connect things that should not be connected. She says to divide EVERYTHING into tiny little groups of notes rather than connecting everything and making the whole piece a big flow of notes. I knew that this was a way to learn pieces, but it bothers me musically and she says its actually the correct way to play it. any thoughts on this?

xx Chopin 10/4 - whose recording?
June 19, 2005, 05:40:04 AM by allchopin

I've been wanting to know who the performer is - now with uploading capabilities maybe someone could help me out.  Smiley

xx Chopin (etude 10/4)
September 20, 2005, 01:09:50 PM by gorbee natcase

I am planning to start this piece this week and would like some advice on the best way to practice this piece, and things I should pay extra attention too from the start.

thanks in advance for any advice  Smiley

xx How to play Chopin etudes op 10, no 1, 4, and 12
September 28, 2005, 09:48:40 PM by acha114

I can play Etude op 10 no 3 and want to play a few more. I've chosen nos 1, 4 and 12 to challenge myself as they are a big jump up from no 3. While I can play no 3 to a competant level, I want to know the best ways to tackle nos 1, 4 and 12. I guess slow practice is best, but are there any tips and tricks to watch out for? Has anyone here had any experiences with these etudes?


xx Chopin Studies and Schubert Impromptu
October 05, 2005, 04:54:31 PM by mr89

Hi! I'm an italian piano student, I'm 16 years old and I'm new here!  Smiley
My English is quite horrible, so excuse me!  Embarrassed
I would like to post some recordings by me! There are three studies op.10 by Chopin and the Impromptu op.90 n.2 in e flat by Schubert!
I hope you like it (the quality is quite low, I'm sorry!)  Smiley

xx Another Opus 10, No. 4 Etude, Chopin
October 16, 2005, 10:16:24 PM by gaer

Clavinova, LOTS of cussing doing this. Smiley

Edit: I removed the file here. It was downloaded 69 times, and I did not get one single bit of feedback about the RE-recording I did based on suggestions from other people and rethinking the piece.

The recording I'm interested in getting feeback on is in message #8… If anyone else wants to listen to what I did, please listen to that file.


xx Chopin - Etude #4 Op. 10
April 12, 2006, 12:21:19 AM by dickreuter

I play this Chopin Etude on an electro piano. As I intend to record a CD in 6-12 months or so (and I know there's still plenty of work to do) I would welcome any constructive comments on how I can improve my playing.

many thanks in advance

xx Chopin - Etude #4 Op. 10
April 23, 2006, 03:30:37 PM by dickreuter

Should be better now. Any comments are appreciated.

xx Chopin Etude #4 Op. 10
May 19, 2006, 08:43:24 PM by dickreuter

Spent some more time on it. I don't think I can do much better than that for the moment. But I'd still welcome some conceptual advice.

Next step is recording it on a real piano.

many thanks

xx Chopin etude op.10 no.4
October 12, 2006, 12:16:25 AM by humblemonkey

I put a question about this in my "19yr old beginner..." post, but I thought I'd put up a separate post.

I have played through the whole of the etude am having trouble with the technique involved in measures 2-3 in the right hand, measures 6-7 in the left, and all others like it.

What kind of movement should I be looking for? my fingering (in the right hand) for the first (of the troubling measures) is 1-3-2-5 and for the second, 1-2-5-3. is this purely a finger movement, or is the wrist the main actor in executing these pieces? 


xx two chopin etudes and a nocturne
October 26, 2006, 01:31:40 AM by le_poete_mourant

Here's a couple cuts from a live session last month.  Ingle Auditorium.  Baldwin Concert Grand.  My modest attempt at these wonderful pieces of music: Etude Op. 10 No. 4 and Op. 25 No. 6; Nocturne Op. 9 No. 1 in B-flat minor.    Hope you like. 

xx Preperation for Chopin Etude Op.10 No.4
December 29, 2006, 10:41:36 PM by qoppa

Hey all
I'd really like to play Chopin's Etude No.4, Op.10, but it currently would be rather difficult, and is more of a dream.  I'm looking for some pieces to build up the technique required in the piece, so that it will be easier when I do finally decide to give it a go.  Also, any pieces that sound reminiscent of it would be nice.  An idea of where I'm at now: I'm currently working on the Pathétique sonata, Lieder ohne Worte Op.19 No.3, and Rach's Moment Musicaux No.3.


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