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Rachmaninoff: Piano Concerto 2 Op. 18 in C Minor

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Sergey Rachmaninoff - Concertos :
Piano Concerto 2, Op. 18
Piano Concerto 2 Op. 18  in C Minor by Rachmaninoff piano sheet music
Key: C Minor Year: 1901
Level: 8+ Period: Late Romantic
piano sheet music Piano score: Scanned score (11588 kB)



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xx Best recording of Rach 2 and Rach 3
May 07, 2011, 09:30:03 AM by cazico

Hi!

I never get bored of listening to these two giants - in my opinion the two best piano concertos the world has ever seen.

However, there are many recordings of these two concertos. Which one of them do you prefer?

My favourite is by far the recording from 1965 by Earl Wild. Except the cadenza in Rach 3, 1st mvt. - I don't like that one in Wild's.

What do you think?


xx Rachmaninoff Piano concerto no 2
May 05, 2011, 04:11:54 AM by chopinaninoff

Hello,
I'm new to this forum. I am not a professional pianist, I am still studying in school. I know this will sound like an extremely idiotic request as well as question to the top concert pianists...But I was asked by my school orchestra conductor to learn the first movement of Rachmaninoff 2nd...Now I have not played a long time, my technique is as advanced as I would like it to be..but this is one of my most favorite pieces ever. And I would love the the honor and privilege of learning it = and performing it with an orchestra, even if its no where close to perfect. So..I ask all of you professional musicians for help on this. Help in the sense that I need to know how to learn it, and make sure that it would be reliable to perform with. If I do decide to learn it, I will have 3-4 months to learn the first movement. So I would like to know..(please be as detailed as possible)
1. From the moment I open the cover of the concerto, how do I begin learning it?
2. How do I know that the way I am counting, will synchronize with the orchestra? After all, this is a romantic concerto, filled with rubatos.
3. The first few pages, have a lot of arpeggios... How do I count them? As triplets? In groups of 8? 9? etc.
4. Is it possible for an intermediate level pianist to learn the first movement in 3 months time?
5.  How can I learn some od the solo fast passages in order to have them reliable for a concert? I have had many cases of where I can practice a hard rapid finger breaking passage at home, do it perfectly, and on a concert, screw it up as if I had never opened the scores.
6. What are some of the hardest parts of the first movement, that I should give more time too? I know everyone is different, but there has to be a common ground on which places are more difficult to pull of with an orchestra.
7. I know you are all wondering at what level of a pianist I am. I have attached a few videos of me performing...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beWYw1xVeTw = Rachmaninoff prelude op 32 no 12 and Elegie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9mABjHPx1M Scriabin preludes op 11 no 1-2-10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX90-si7krg = Chopin etude op 25 no 12
And finally, I hate to say this, but keep in mind ive been playing for two and a half years.
Please dont take this post as a joke, I am determined to learn this concerto and I would apprecaite any word of advice...thank you
Richard


xx Rach 2 and Horacio Gutierrez
April 02, 2011, 04:26:49 AM by omar_roy

Just got back from seeing the Rachmaninoff Piano Concerto No. 2 played by Horacio Gutierrez with the Cleveland Symphony.

Amazing...


xx Rach 2
January 16, 2011, 03:51:49 AM by ownedbymusic

So I'm preparing the first movement of Rachmaninoff's 2nd piano concerto for a competition coming up in a couple weeks. I play everything about the same tempo as Kissin (some differences), and most of it is fine, except for one particular section near the end of the first half of the piece: "Un Poco Piu Mosso"

Page 15-17 [link removed by moderator]. Tempo I play is half note = 80-84

The main issue is at rehearsal 7 - I can play separate hands with no trouble, but putting the two together jumbles up both hands. I think the main issue is that once left hand comes into play, my attention shifts between the two, and it becomes difficult to play the right hand correctly then. Obviously I'm going to continue to practice separate hands until it seems completely natural for both hands. I have also practiced syncopated rhythms and the like for both hands.

Any suggestions as to how to make this process faster?


xx Rachmaninov 2nd concerto editions
January 09, 2011, 09:21:09 PM by cubsfan334

What are the best editions of Rachmaninov's 2nd piano concerto?  I'm specifically looking for editions with excellent fingering suggestions (if they exist Tongue)


xx Rachmaninov's Second Piano Concerto 3rd Movement fingering suggestions
November 26, 2010, 05:46:03 PM by tommyo

I was just wondering if anyone could suggest the fingering they would use for bars 21-22 (quasi glissandro). I cannot deceide on a comfortable one yet.


xx Rachmaninoff Concerto No. 2
November 23, 2010, 12:19:13 AM by maddenleaman

I'm confused about the grouping of the arpeggios in the beginning of Rachmaninoff's Concerto No. 2.  Should they be grouped as they appear in the score (triplets, group of five, group of four, group of five), or should they be grouped (group of eight, group of nine)?  Any help would be appreciated.


xx Rachmaninoff Concerto #2 - Allegro Scherzando
November 11, 2010, 01:48:40 AM by riskarb

This is just work in progress, but thought I'd post it for laughs:



Criticism is welcome (tho I'll probably ignore it).

And posting of other peoples FAIL vids even more welcome Wink

All the best,
rob




xx general advice on rachmaninov piano concerto n.2 1st mvt
March 22, 2010, 02:26:07 PM by cosz

I am performing this mvt ( for 2 pianos not with orchestra ) in 2 months and i would like to here from everyone any advice on details that will make my performance brilliant .

I play this mvt very well but there's always room for improvements!! right??

( I would like to receive advice on the interpretation aspect of this movement
I am ok with the technique!!)







xx Rachmaninoff 2nd concerto
February 27, 2009, 11:18:25 AM by pianomx

Hi guys, so, I played this last week at school with my profesor, Is not technically perfect but I quite enjoyed it so I just wanted to share. Comments are as always welcome Smiley


xx rach piano concerto#2 mov 1
November 08, 2008, 02:07:25 AM by bluepianist

Help!! I 've a piano student about to perform the first mov. of Rach. piano concerto #2.  He and I have just noticed the ties? in meas.
287.  Are these truly ties?  I've listened to a few recordings and Rubinstein plays this as a tie but some others don't.  Is there a definintive answer or edition?  thanks in advance for the help,
Bluepianist


xx ties in Rach. #2
November 08, 2008, 02:03:39 AM by bluepianist

In the Rachmaninov #2 piano concerto mov. 1 are the notes in measure #287 true ties?  Rubinstein plays them as ties.  But some other pianists don't.  Is there a definitive answer?  I have a student performing this piece with a local symphony and we want to be sure to perform it correctly.  Thanks in advance for the help.
Blue pianist.


xx Rach2: Getting started
October 19, 2008, 01:29:54 PM by racky2

Rach2, getting beyond the eight chords for whom the bells toll, how do you play the rippling con passione section?    My copy doesn't show fingering.   Do you just play the notes slowly until your fingers sort it out or is there a time-honoured approach to studying the whole work which all challengers need to be privy to?
   

Greetings from Perth, Western Oz


xx Rachmaninoff fingering
July 24, 2008, 06:58:45 PM by byarbrough

I need some advice on the poco piu mosso bridge section towards the beginning of the first movement of Rachmaninoff's 2nd concerto. I'm having a huge amount of trouble with the left hand in this part, specifically with the second and third measures. If it helps, the notes here are "F, E flat, A, C, A, D, E flat, A, B flat, C, D, A, F sharp, C, F sharp, B flat, C." My professor and I talked about fingering this at the end of the semester before summer break, and she recommended 1235212 4321235321. The third measure seems to be getting better so that's probably just a practice issue, but no matter how much I do slow practice on the second measure as soon as I begin to speed it up it falls apart. This is such an awkward spot in the piece for me and I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions. Thanks for your help


xx Rachmaninoff Concertos
July 15, 2008, 09:02:25 PM by chozartmaninoff

Does anyone know of a UK company that sell orchestral backing Tracks, Mainly of the Rachmaninoff Piano concert 1 in F# Minor Number 2 in C minor and no.3 in D minor

Thanks

Mike


xx How difficult is the first mouv. of Rach 2?
April 25, 2008, 09:17:19 PM by franz_

How difficult is this mouvement? Technically... ?
In half a year my school will do auditions to play 10min. with orchestra, and I would like to give this a try. What do you guys think?


xx Rachmaninoff #2 (How difficult?)
March 20, 2008, 07:45:53 AM by gingerale

Hello everybody!

I know that a lot of people think that Rachmaninoff #2 is an overrated piece because so many people have played and recorded it. But the thing is... I never played it! Smiley

So, I would like to know your feedback about what you think is the best way to study this piece in a way to get it ready in 3 months. (any methods for difficult technique slots, ways to subdivide the piece in order to study by bites, or anything you could suggest in a way to help me, etc).

I already played the Paganini Rhapsody, and a lot of etudes and preludes so, I am familiar with this style. But still, 2#concerto brings new challenges.

Any ideas or suggestions will be welcomed and very appreciated! Smiley

best,


xx Rachmaninoff Piano Concerto No. 2 in C Minor
December 19, 2007, 06:08:22 PM by pianorin

hey what do you guys think of this concerto??
This concerto is my all-time-favourite!!  Cheesy
But it looks very difficult.  Undecided

What about the people with small hands? Are thay able to play this concerto? Huh


xx Rachmaninoff's Piano Concerto in c minor No.2
October 10, 2007, 05:18:53 PM by amelialw

For those of you who have learnt Rachmaninoff's Piano Concerto in c minor No.2, How hard is it actually compared to the rest of Rachmaninoff's Piano Concertos? Do you think that it's more do'able for someone with small hands? How much harder is it then Beethoven's Concertos, Schumann's Concertos?


Any opinions or advice welcome. Thanks!


xx Rachmaninoff 2nd concerto (recent live performance)
July 19, 2007, 10:00:55 PM by fnork

...with 2nd piano.

7/7-/07


xx The best interpretation of Tchaikovsky`s First Concerto and Rachmaninov`s Second
June 07, 2007, 09:29:15 AM by christiaan

Thcaikovsky: Richter, Argerich, Olga Kern, Pletnev...?

Rachmaninov: Richter, Kissin, Hough, Ashkenazy...?


xx Rach 2
June 04, 2007, 09:07:07 AM by christiaan

What is the correct version of the Rach 2`s openinig chords? To 'arpeggio' it like Ashkenazy or to play it 'blocked' like Richter/ Van Cliburn? Wat do you guys prefer?

I hate it when people arpeggio it to fit the size of their small hands! If you have small hands, don`t try Rachmaninov`s second concerto!

What do you think?


xx Rachmaninoff - Piano concerto no 2, op 18
May 29, 2007, 04:47:54 PM by fnork

Here comes the first movement, recorded it today with my teacher on 2nd piano.



xx Rachmaninoff 2nd Piano Concerto, 1st Mvt
March 08, 2007, 11:33:07 PM by gregh87

I played this with the Knoxville Youth Symphony last May, my senior year in high school.  I made some obvious mistakes, and the orchestra and I weren't always together, but I'm just happy I made it through it.


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