A minor frustration

[dinosaurtales]

Now that the forum has been up for several years, there are many topics that have been discussed before lying around in history.

Sometimes I want to start a new topic, or discuss one as though it was "new" again.  But some of you guys approach it with "aren't you stupid!  This has been discussed before!  Here are the previous posts" kind of response. 

Problem for me is, I don't have a lot of piano pals like you guys have, and sometimes I want to discuss a topic NOW, not just read through a bunch of old posts.  Not only that but a lot of the members have joined since those posts, and may have something interesting to say.

So will you guys humor me on this one?  Let me have the joy of an actual discussion?

[Nightscape]

I thought you were going to talk about "a minor".

[dinosaurtales]

Verrrrrrry funny!

[gorbee natcase]

I agree I cant be bothered to root through 60+pages of posts to see if it has been discussed before it would take forever and is not realistic

[bernhard]

This has been discussed before.

Have a look here:

https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/topic,3297.0.html

https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/topic,3194.0.html

https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/topic,2670.0.html
 


Now seriously.

By all means start new threads on subjects that may have been discussed before. However, do not expect to have a poster repeat everything s/he has said before. Directing you to an old thread relevant to your new post is a perfectly appropriate answer.

Some questions are complex and there are many angles on which to tackle it. Some questions will never have complete or even satisfactory answers.

Directing someone who has asked a question that has been asked many times before to the relevant threads allows the questioner to explore what has already been said. S/he can then either declare him/herself satisfied with the answers already provided, or (hopefully) they can come up with new questions or new aspects of the same question not yet covered in previous posts. So new material is added to the previous answers without the need to constantly re-explain the basics. Surely this is a good thing?

Best wishes,
Bernhard.

[Jacey1973]

Now that the forum has been up for several years, there are many topics that have been discussed before lying around in history.

Sometimes I want to start a new topic, or discuss one as though it was "new" again.  But some of you guys approach it with "aren't you stupid!  This has been discussed before!  Here are the previous posts" kind of response. 

Problem for me is, I don't have a lot of piano pals like you guys have, and sometimes I want to discuss a topic NOW, not just read through a bunch of old posts.  Not only that but a lot of the members have joined since those posts, and may have something interesting to say.

So will you guys humor me on this one?  Let me have the joy of an actual discussion?

I totally agree. If we didn't start new topics on things that had been discussed before i imagine there would be hardly any new topics ever! Or by now we would be discussing something completely irrelevant or bizarre.

I bet there's a few new topics still to be discussed out there....*goes on a mission to find them*















*gets bored so gives up and goes and gets a snack*

[dinosaurtales]

This has been discussed before.

Have a look here:

https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/topic,3297.0.html

https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/topic,3194.0.html

https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/topic,2670.0.html
 




Best wishes,
Bernhard.

aaaaaaaaauuuuuuuuuugggggggghhhhhhhh!!!

OK.  Perhaps I should have said "excluding bernhard, who posts entire texbooks of information that can only repeated with great difficulty!" 

I was thinking of the DinosaurTales-style post, which usually reads "wow!" or "Gosh, I like that!"

I usually think in simpler terms, eh?

Min

[xvimbi]

I agree I cant be bothered to root through 60+pages of posts to see if it has been discussed before it would take forever and is not realistic

Well, I can't be bothered to write again and again what took me an hour to write the first time

Either way, someone's time is going to be "wasted". I'd rather see someone who wants an anwer do some work, rather than just lean back and have the others do the work while they are having a scoop of ice cream. The search function works really well, and Google is not bad either.

Did I mention I'm grumpy today?

There is nothing wrong with re-dicussing topics, particularly those that involve opinions or are unresolved. But I do get impatient sometimes, when it is about something simple and straightforward.

[m1469]

Well, I can't be bothered to write again and again what took me an hour to write the first time

Either way, someone's time is going to be "wasted". I'd rather see someone who wants an anwer do some work, rather than just lean back and have the others do the work while they are having a scoop of ice cream. The search function works really well, and Google is not bad either.

Did I mention I'm grumpy today?

There is nothing wrong with re-dicussing topics, particularly those that involve opinions or are unresolved. But I do get impatient sometimes, when it is about something simple and straightforward.

xvimbi, you are already saying this exact thing here :

https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/topic,11259.msg117348.html#msg117348



And dinosaurtales, have a look here :

https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/topic,11259.msg117211.html#msg117211
 













Did I mention I am mischievous today ?


I hope this helps,
m1469 

[ted]

I can see the issue from both sides but I do agree with Bernhard that being referred to some of the excellent previous discussions on a topic ought to be perfectly acceptable. In writing this post I suddenly realise that I have not asked a single question since joining the forum; at least I cannot remember doing so. However, when helping people with the small subset of piano playing I know something about, I do sometimes spend considerable effort to express myself. I can therefore sympathise with xvimbi's opinion.

In the end a forum is not a public utility and the people kind enough to offer their time and assistance are not being paid to do so.