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Topic: Hamelin's Prelude to an Imaginary Symphony(Homage to Sorabji)  (Read 3461 times)

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written the year after sorabji died.......the score is a bit...SCARY!

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Re: Hamelin's Prelude to an Imaginary Symphony(Homage to Sorabji)
Reply #1 on: August 26, 2005, 04:40:57 AM
did he record it?

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Re: Hamelin's Prelude to an Imaginary Symphony(Homage to Sorabji)
Reply #2 on: August 26, 2005, 04:58:02 AM
I always thought it was a joke piece (?) I mean "comme un marteau pneumatique", this is clearly tongue-in-cheek right? :P

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Re: Hamelin's Prelude to an Imaginary Symphony(Homage to Sorabji)
Reply #3 on: August 26, 2005, 04:13:29 PM
Jcarey recorded it a while back, it sounds nothing like Sorabji.  ::) :P


hm, John, can you put the recording back up?

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Re: Hamelin's Prelude to an Imaginary Symphony(Homage to Sorabji)
Reply #4 on: August 26, 2005, 04:19:02 PM
Jcarey recorded it a while back, it sounds nothing like Sorabji.
No, indeed it doesn't, although there are certain deliberately ersatz-Sorabjian gestural moments that are sufficiently obvious in their origins for it to be reasonable clear where M-AH was coming from in this work. I would not go do far as to suggest that it was a joke in itself, the only possible "joke", if any, being confined to the title rather than identifiable in the music itself.

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Re: Hamelin's Prelude to an Imaginary Symphony(Homage to Sorabji)
Reply #5 on: August 27, 2005, 12:15:08 AM
I always thought it was a joke piece (?) I mean "comme un marteau pneumatique", this is clearly tongue-in-cheek right? :P

It is french, so BASICALLY it is not a joke. What it means in french is a joke. It means : "like a tire-hammer. Yes the kind of tire a car has,filled with air...

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Re: Hamelin's Prelude to an Imaginary Symphony(Homage to Sorabji)
Reply #6 on: August 27, 2005, 12:21:35 AM
there are some pretty hilarious markings in it though, i especially like 'quasi confuso', like you could play it any other way  ;D

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Re: Hamelin's Prelude to an Imaginary Symphony(Homage to Sorabji)
Reply #7 on: August 27, 2005, 12:50:49 AM
John Stump, heh.

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Re: Hamelin's Prelude to an Imaginary Symphony(Homage to Sorabji)
Reply #8 on: August 27, 2005, 02:39:47 AM
It is french, so BASICALLY it is not a joke. What it means in french is a joke. It means : "like a tire-hammer. Yes the kind of tire a car has,filled with air...

what? I speak french, it means like a pneumatic drill. This is why I thought it was a joke.

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Re: Hamelin's Prelude to an Imaginary Symphony(Homage to Sorabji)
Reply #9 on: August 27, 2005, 03:57:50 AM
what? I speak french, it means like a pneumatic drill. This is why I thought it was a joke.

A drill is a perceuse. A marteau is a hammer.

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Re: Hamelin's Prelude to an Imaginary Symphony(Homage to Sorabji)
Reply #10 on: August 27, 2005, 06:52:24 AM
A drill is a perceuse. A marteau is a hammer.

yeah I know, but the phrase "marteau pneumatique" means pneumatic drill. Look it up if you don't believe me. Ok, let's try to stay on topic.  :P

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Re: Hamelin's Prelude to an Imaginary Symphony(Homage to Sorabji)
Reply #11 on: August 27, 2005, 07:55:26 AM
there are some pretty hilarious markings in it though, i especially like 'quasi confuso', like you could play it any other way  ;D
Yes, there are - but then that piece is not the only example where M-AH inserts performance and other directions in a piece which may not itself be intended as a joke. Indeed, the "confuse is lifted from the "sempre più confuso" in, I think, Ferneyhough's piano work Lemma-Icon-Epigram - hardly a joke piece itself. Perhaps, in the case of this Prélude, le marteau pneumatique est sans maître...

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