Grades for all of Chopin's works...Bernhard?

[phil13]

Yeah, I know it's a lot to ask for, but if you could please maybe post links to the ones that are here ( I know that the Etudes are somewhere, not sure about other sets) and then later post some of the others in lists? The ones that I'm most interested is are the Nocturnes, the Polonaises, the Mazurkas, and the Preludes.

Thanks in advance!

Phil

[bernhard]

A lot to ask? Nah. It is nothing really.

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3197.msg28098.html#msg28098
(Op. 25 no. 1 –  grades for all etudes and nocturnes)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2958.msg25879.html#msg25879
(Easiest Chopin pieces – grades 4-5-6)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3683.msg32884.html#msg32884
(difficulty of scherzos and ballades)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,6957.msg69287.html#msg69287
(Chopin pieces grades 7 & 8 )

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,6954.msg69289.html#msg69289
(Chopin Polonaises, graded)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3827.msg34579.html#msg34579
(grades for all preludes)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3943.msg35797.html#msg35797
(grades for all the waltzes)

Also have a look here:

https://www.pianostreet.com/Graded_Pieces_All.xls
(Torp’s graded pieces excel spreadsheet)

If the piece(s) you are interested in is not in these threads, come back and I will grade them for you.

Best wishes,
Bernhard.

[pianowelsh]

The book you want is 'The pianist's guide to the repertoire: Chopin, A graded practical guide' by Eleanor Bailie (pub Kahn& Averill) She is an inspired teacher and lovely lady. In this book she grades every piece of solo Chopin and gives style and practice suggestions. Its a student textbook!!

[phil13]

Thank you so much Bernhard! The only ones that I can't find are the mazurkas. Do you know their grades? (who am I kidding, of course you do!)

Oh and BTW, why aren't they talked about much on this forum? Most of them are great!

EDIT: I found the mazurkas. I overlooked that link the first time. How about the Bolero, the Tartanella, the three Sonatas and the Berceuse?

Phil

[bernhard]

Sonata no. 1 in C minor (op. 4)
1st movement – Allegro moderato – very advanced
2nd movement – Menuetto – grade 8
3rd movement: Larghetto – grade 7
4th movement – Finale – Presto – very advanced

Sonata no. 2 in Bb minor (op. 35)
1st movement – Grave – Doppio movimento - very advanced
2nd movement – Scherzo – very advanced
3rd Movement – Funeral March – grade 7
4th movement – Finale – Presto – very advanced

Sonata no. 3 in B minor (op. 58)
1st movement – Allegro Maestoso - very advanced
2nd movement – Scherzo molto vivace – very advanced
3rd Movement – Largo – grade 7
4th movement – Finale – Presto non tanto – very advanced

Berceuse op. 57 – very advanced

Bolero op. 19 – very advanced

Tarantella op. 43 – Very advanced

Good luck!

Best wishes,
Bernhard.

[phil13]

Sonata no. 1 in C minor (op. 4)
1st movement – Allegro moderato – very advanced
2nd movement – Menuetto – grade 8
3rd movement: Larghetto – grade 7
4th movement – Finale – Presto – very advanced

Sonata no. 2 in Bb minor (op. 35)
1st movement – Grave – Doppio movimento - very advanced
2nd movement – Scherzo – very advanced
3rd Movement – Funeral March – grade 7
4th movement – Finale – Presto – very advanced

Sonata no. 3 in B minor (op. 58)
1st movement – Allegro Maestoso - very advanced
2nd movement – Scherzo molto vivace – very advanced
3rd Movement – Largo – grade 7
4th movement – Finale – Presto non tanto – very advanced

Berceuse op. 57 – very advanced

Bolero op. 19 – very advanced

Tarantella op. 43 – Very advanced

Good luck!

Best wishes,
Bernhard.

Ouch. Why is the Berceuse so difficult? It looks simple on paper, once you have the RH down it should be simple, right?

I expected the rest of them to be at that level.

Phil

[pianowelsh]

Eleanor has some very good tips! you should check out her book phil13

[phil13]

Eleanor has some very good tips! you should check out her book phil13

Where can I find it? It would make a good addition to my books on Chopin. 

Phil

[stevie]

hahaha very advanced means jack sheet around here

[pianowelsh]

you should be able to obtain her book via amazon.  As for repertoire admittedly Very Advanced doesnt mean that much but then nor do grades becasue it all depends on how you play them BUT for what its worth: Berceuse (dipABRSM), Bolero & Tarentella (LRSM) the sonatas 2 & 3 have been set for both LRSM and FRSM - im inclined to say that for both a good performance of them in the context of a bigger programme is an FRSM assignment. Sonata no one may be slightly easier in some senses but is probably LRSM - FRSM too.

[kevonthegreatpianist]

Sonata no. 1 in C minor (op. 4)
1st movement – Allegro moderato – very advanced
2nd movement – Menuetto – grade 8
3rd movement: Larghetto – grade 7
4th movement – Finale – Presto – very advanced

Sonata no. 2 in Bb minor (op. 35)
1st movement – Grave – Doppio movimento - very advanced
2nd movement – Scherzo – very advanced
3rd Movement – Funeral March – grade 7
4th movement – Finale – Presto – very advanced

Sonata no. 3 in B minor (op. 58)
1st movement – Allegro Maestoso - very advanced
2nd movement – Scherzo molto vivace – very advanced
3rd Movement – Largo – grade 7
4th movement – Finale – Presto non tanto – very advanced

Berceuse op. 57 – very advanced

Bolero op. 19 – very advanced

Tarantella op. 43 – Very advanced

Good luck!

Best wishes,
Bernhard.

my grading (1-10):

Sonata Op.35
Movement 1: 9
Movement 2: 9
Movement 3: 7
Movement 4: 9

Sonata Op.58:
Movement 1: 9.5
Movement 2: 9
Movement 3: 7
Movement 4: 9.5

Berceuse: 9
Bolero: 8.5
Barcarolle: 9
Tarantella: 9
Variations Brilliantes: 8.5

[pencilart3]

I'm sure that the people who last posted 10 years ago will appreciate the contribution.

[kevonthegreatpianist]

I'm sure that the people who last posted 10 years ago will appreciate the contribution.

they probably lost their interest to piano street years ago