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Offline Jesus

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The Most Romantic Masterpiece
on: September 03, 2003, 04:15:14 AM
I am sure I ma not the first who has pondered this question. Whta piece can make a woman fall into your arms as soon as your hands are off the keyboard?
Probably one of the best kept secrets I would say

Debussy´s  "Claire de Lune"

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Re: The Most Romantic Masterpiece
Reply #1 on: September 05, 2003, 02:49:27 AM
umm Jesus (I'm sure that's not your real name) I heard the start of Claire de Lune and it's not bad but I wouldn't say it would make a woman fall into your arms
You know, it's kinda a bit slow

What piece?  My opinion, Chopin's Grande Polonaise Brilliante opus 22

Of course, listening to it and actually playing it are two different stories.  But newayz, just my 2 cents

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Re: The Most Romantic Masterpiece
Reply #2 on: September 05, 2003, 03:18:29 AM
Um just trip the woman and then shell fall into your arms.
I think Brahms' Intermezzo in A major is arguably the most brilliant and beautiful piece ever written for his time (but of course theres chopin's competition- his work is pure genius as well).  It has a distinct melody that is tranquil and unforgettable...
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Re: The Most Romantic Masterpiece
Reply #3 on: September 05, 2003, 06:35:27 AM
its not the beginning of claire de lune that would make a woman fall into ur arms.. its the whole piece.. its just so amazing and beautiful overall.. the middle sections with its arpeggios... its simply beautiful.. i sure think it'll get a girl to fall in ur arms.
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Reply #4 on: September 07, 2003, 05:59:06 AM
mmm interesting.  Well you can also try La Campanella... or not, you might look too strained playing it and it's not good after that

Seriously I think that the arpeggios aren't that impressive.  Why don't you find a piece with lotsa glissandos then?  Looks even better

And Clair de Lune doesn't sound good.  I'm sorry if it goes outright opposite against ppl's opinions, but I've heard many slow pieces that are way better than that

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Re: The Most Romantic Masterpiece
Reply #5 on: September 07, 2003, 04:43:51 PM
[/quote]And Clair de Lune doesn't sound good.  I'm sorry if it goes outright opposite against ppl's opinions, but I've heard many slow pieces that are way better than that
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how can you say that? it is a beautiful and dreamy piece of music.  Maybe not my favorite romantic but certainly beautiful.
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Re: The Most Romantic Masterpiece
Reply #6 on: September 07, 2003, 05:23:16 PM
Claire de lune is not romantic, Debussy was an impressionist!
But anyway, the piece is beautiful!

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Re: The Most Romantic Masterpiece
Reply #7 on: September 07, 2003, 05:38:26 PM
Ah, the age-old question - I've got several suggestions that worked :P

1. Chopin Etude op. 10 no. 3. Arguably (sp?) one of the most beautiful pieces ever composed. This piece is especially effective if you're playing for a french girl.

2. Rachmaninoff's transcription of Kreisler's Liebeslied. Dude, it works.

3. Rachmaninoff's Paganini variations - that romantic one.. can't remember the number atm. You just have to figure out what to do when the orchestra's supposed to come in.

4. Parts of the second movement of Chopin's 2nd piano concerto.

I'll post more when I think of them.. I know there's more. brain not working - must practice like automaton. :P
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Re: The Most Romantic Masterpiece
Reply #8 on: September 07, 2003, 06:04:28 PM
Regarding the Chopin concerto, Vladimir de Pachmann was once playing this piece in concert with Thomas Beecham conducting. Halfway through the second movement, de Pachmann stopped and looked up to Beecham sayning "isn't this lovely?", to which Beecham replied "well, yes but I'd prefer it if you carried on!",
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Re: The Most Romantic Masterpiece
Reply #9 on: September 07, 2003, 06:21:09 PM
LOL!
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Re: The Most Romantic Masterpiece
Reply #10 on: September 07, 2003, 09:23:18 PM
Interestingly de Pachmann also said that milking cows were better than any technical exercises,
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Re: The Most Romantic Masterpiece
Reply #11 on: September 08, 2003, 06:08:01 PM
Well, as long as we're all confessing to the lofty reasons why we took up the piano, I might as well chime in.
The Liszt transcription of "Widmung" by Schumann is #1 on my list in this....um....genre.
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Re: The Most Romantic Masterpiece
Reply #12 on: September 25, 2003, 12:43:08 AM
My vote goes to Chopin's Fantasy Impro. and Waltz Op. 64 No. 2.
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Re: The Most Romantic Masterpiece
Reply #13 on: September 25, 2003, 12:46:02 AM
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Interestingly de Pachmann also said that milking cows were better than any technical exercises,
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Really? But I don't have any cows? What should I do?
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Re: The Most Romantic Masterpiece
Reply #14 on: September 25, 2003, 05:11:03 AM
run out and buy some! FAST! everyone is milking cows for technical exercise... dont you feel it in the wrist?
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Re: The Most Romantic Masterpiece
Reply #15 on: September 25, 2003, 08:19:04 AM
Well, Jesus, being a woman myself maybe gives me some authority in this matter. For a woman non musician, Debussy's Clair de lune is a good choice. This piece has been used in several romantic movie films, as "Frankie and Johnny", and in the Warner's TV serie "ER" for a marriage proposal, so this ilustrates my point. One friend of mine, pianist, managed to make my own younger sister -non musician- fall in his arms after playing for her Liszt's Dante sonata. And from my own experience, being younger one of my piano classmates -in whom I was absolutely not interested in from the beginning for showing himself as a superficial person- made ME fall into his arms after playing Chopin's 3rd sonata. It was YEARS ago and still I remember him -I havent's even see him for about 10 years- when I listen this sonata, specially the 2nd movement. Quite amusing, isn't it?
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Reply #16 on: September 26, 2003, 04:23:48 AM
mm well this Clair de Lune sounds fascinating...

any more pieces similar to Clair de Lune but at a more quicker tempo but still the same relaxing feel?

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Re: The Most Romantic Masterpiece
Reply #17 on: September 26, 2003, 09:34:37 AM
maybe the middle of claire de lune?  :P The middle is pretty fast.. depending on who and how they play it... i played the middle really fast and it sounded like .. well, a fast claire de lune.
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Re: The Most Romantic Masterpiece
Reply #18 on: September 26, 2003, 03:15:18 PM
Debussy's "Reverie" or "Arabesque no.1" are similar in style and difficulty,
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Re: The Most Romantic Masterpiece
Reply #19 on: September 27, 2003, 01:16:29 PM
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One friend of mine, pianist, managed to make my own younger sister -non musician- fall in his arms after playing for her Liszt's Dante sonata


Girls are easily drawn to Biceps!  ;D By the same reasoning, Scriabin's op8-12 should be a hit as well.

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Re: The Most Romantic Masterpiece
Reply #20 on: September 27, 2003, 03:33:39 PM
Chopins nocturnes, etudes Op.10 n.3 and 25 n.1, piano concertos, berceuse,...
I'd be interested to see the reaction of the girl if you played Bartok's sonata or some Boulez  ;D
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Reply #21 on: September 27, 2003, 10:52:20 PM
i wonder if Liszt's Mephisto Waltz is capable of makin someone fall into your arms ;D

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Re: The Most Romantic Masterpiece
Reply #22 on: September 27, 2003, 11:01:13 PM
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i wonder if Liszt's Mephisto Waltz is capable of makin someone fall into your arms ;D


Only if your arms flew into them after a fiendishly difficult octave passage...
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Re: The Most Romantic Masterpiece
Reply #23 on: September 28, 2003, 10:17:36 AM
Liebaustraum, or anything by Lizst.

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Re: The Most Romantic Masterpiece
Reply #24 on: October 01, 2003, 02:38:14 AM
lol

Ones that have worked for me are

Chopin - Nocturne Op.27 no.2
Liszt - Au Bord d'Une Source
Chopin - Berceuse Op.57

I'll think of more later.

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Re: The Most Romantic Masterpiece
Reply #25 on: October 01, 2003, 08:48:17 AM
Oh brother!  These are starting to sound like those old letters to Penthouse magazine!  

OK.  I am a woman, so I know a thing or two about this one.  You guys must be really young.  

Debussy will NOT make a woman fall into your arms.  If it did, I would need to see this woman to verify.

Chopin's Nocturne - now who mentioned that? Not a bad warm up with a glass of wine, but not fall-worthy.

Beethoven's Apassionata.  NOW you're talking.  I wouldn't even have to be drunk.
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Reply #26 on: October 01, 2003, 10:43:19 AM
nice!  Finally I got someone on my side about Debussy's Clair de Lune!  thx DinosaurTales!  ;D

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Re: The Most Romantic Masterpiece
Reply #27 on: October 02, 2003, 12:15:57 AM
Dinosaur, to which Nocturne are you referring?

The Appassionata is a great piece, but I'm not so sure of what it holds towards the non-musician - I'm not sure if they will fully appreciate it for what it really is. However, I'm far from sure on this matter.

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Re: The Most Romantic Masterpiece
Reply #28 on: October 02, 2003, 03:55:48 AM
Scriabin Fantasy in b minor
Brahms A Major Intermezzo
That Rachmaninoff Paganini variation that the above person mentioned


But definitely not anything by Liszt.  It's too cheesey!

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Re: The Most Romantic Masterpiece
Reply #29 on: October 02, 2003, 04:38:54 AM
And also, if Jesus is hispanic, Jesus is quite a common name.

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Re: The Most Romantic Masterpiece
Reply #30 on: October 02, 2003, 08:08:31 PM
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But definitely not anything by Liszt.  It's too cheesey!


The Liszt Sonata in B minor is not cheesy,
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Re: The Most Romantic Masterpiece
Reply #31 on: October 02, 2003, 08:17:59 PM
No it's cheesey (with an e)
So much music, so little time........

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Re: The Most Romantic Masterpiece
Reply #32 on: October 02, 2003, 08:29:07 PM
No entry found for cheesey.
Did you mean cheese?

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Re: The Most Romantic Masterpiece
Reply #33 on: October 05, 2003, 10:50:01 AM
if it's a non-piano music, Mahler would make a girl fall in love with the guy who's playing the slow movement of the 6th symphony (obviously on an orchestral instrument...)  :)

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Re: The Most Romantic Masterpiece
Reply #34 on: October 05, 2003, 11:59:11 AM
i suggest chopin's ballade 1/barcarole op66/ nocturne op7 no2/ nocturne op9 no3... i'm a girl and i fell in love with those!

actually, i'm a bit biased. anything chopin gets my vote!
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Re: The Most Romantic Masterpiece
Reply #35 on: October 05, 2003, 12:06:38 PM
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barcarole op66/ nocturne op7 no2/ nocturne op9 no3...


i meant nocturne op27 no2 and not nocturne op7...
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Re: The Most Romantic Masterpiece
Reply #36 on: September 28, 2004, 02:52:57 AM
"Wonderful Tonight" by Eric Clapton

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Reply #37 on: September 28, 2004, 09:11:24 PM
There are of course many pieces which qualify for this but lately I have been absolutely adoring Rachmaninov's etude-tableaux in e flat minor opus 39, no 5.

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Re: The Most Romantic Masterpiece
Reply #38 on: September 29, 2004, 12:42:41 AM
My god...

He does it on purpose...

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Reply #39 on: September 29, 2004, 12:51:21 AM
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Claire de lune is not romantic, Debussy was an impressionist!
But anyway, the piece is beautiful!


Well...it's debatable. He's much more a romantic than an impressionist - I would compare him to Liszt rather than Ravel.

Anywho.

I give my vote to Nuages Gris.

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Reply #40 on: September 29, 2004, 01:33:43 AM
Debussy himself wouldn't have agreed with either of you, he would have said he was a symbolist! Still whats it really matter, its a beautiful piece that creates a romantic atmosphere, and has qualities of both early romantic miniatures and the "impressionist" movement.

I would say Rach2, if you play this passionately enough then it guarentees results! (I speak from personal experience.......) ;D

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Reply #41 on: September 29, 2004, 06:52:53 AM
TOTENTANZ!!!!!!!!!!!!

No really though....

I would definately recommend a Debussy... "Girl with the Flaxen Hair" or "Claire de Lune"

I find Chopin more (impressive). One of his nocturnes to be more specific...

Or a Liszt Liebstraum

How about Beethoven's 2nd movemnt of the pathetique snt.?

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Re: The Most Romantic Masterpiece
Reply #42 on: September 29, 2004, 09:57:32 AM
Mendelssohn-Bartholdy : Lied ohne worte 19:1 'A sweet souvenir'

i have found out that chicks likes cantabile played pieces and this one major rules because noone can forget about the melody line, it's so plain simple but effective.

Debussy - Premiere Arabesque

Hell, I like this more then Clair de Lune. Especially from bar 6 wil get chicks into your arms, not because it's so hard but because it's so cool written.

L.V.Beethoven - Sonata Pathetique 13:2

No more words are spilled.

Schubert - Impromptu Rosamunde 142:3

Because of the sweetness of this piece chicks dig it.

Franz Liszt - Liebestraume no3

A good and beautiful understandable piece, because i am not sure if chicks really like the complicated stuff we all like :) But this one will do the trick :)


then again: i only had one girlfriend in my entire lifetime :)
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Re: The Most Romantic Masterpiece
Reply #43 on: September 30, 2004, 02:01:18 AM
When you say "make a woman fall into your arms" I kinda get the picture of a woman that's really moved by the music.  In other words, you're playing something dreamy and soft.  But if you're talking about which piece makes a woman most impressed, that's a whole different story.  Kind of like the guitar piece "Romance D'amour"  That piece will undoubtedly make a woman fall into your arms.  But if you want to impress her, you play all those crazy rock songs.  Anyway, the pieces that are really "dreamy" are...

1.  Liszt - Un Sospiro
2.  Debussy - Arabesque
Reverie
Claire De Lune
3.  Chopin - Etude Op. 10 No. 3, Etude Op. 25 No. 1,




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Reply #44 on: September 30, 2004, 02:05:21 AM
When you say "make a woman fall into your arms" I kinda get the picture of a woman that's really moved by the music.  In other words, you're playing something dreamy and soft.  But if you're talking about which piece makes a woman most impressed, that's a whole different story.  Kind of like the guitar piece "Romance D'amour"  That piece will undoubtedly make a woman fall into your arms.  But if you want to impress her, you play all those crazy rock songs.  Anyway, the pieces that are really "dreamy" are...(in no particular order)

1.  Liszt - Un Sospiro
2.  Liszt - Liebestraum No. 3
3.  Debussy - Reverie
4.  Debussy - Arabesque
5.  Debussy - Claire De Lune
6.  Chopin - Etude Op. 10 No. 3
7.  Chopin - Etude Op. 25 No. 1
8.  Chopin - Nocturne Op. 9 No. 2





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Re: The Most Romantic Masterpiece
Reply #45 on: September 30, 2004, 10:29:34 PM
"Wonderful Tonight" by Eric Clapton, "Can you feel the Love Tonight" by Elton John.

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Re: The Most Romantic Masterpiece
Reply #46 on: October 01, 2004, 02:30:05 AM
something by chopin or rachmaninov's elegy (op. 3 #1). the 1st mvt. of the moonlight sonata has also worked for me and i dunno y it hasnt been posted yet. o and definately some pieces from final fantasy (yes the game). those piece r awesome.

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Re: The Most Romantic Masterpiece
Reply #47 on: October 01, 2004, 02:53:38 AM
Un sospiro, perhaps.

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Reply #48 on: October 03, 2004, 01:43:44 AM
oh do you know final fantasy? (:
yeah the music in all of them is beautifull...
btw i played them all (and finished) from 1 to 8... didn't play 9/10(/11?)... the best is 7, and the music there is amazing!
Too bad schubert didn't write any piano concertos...

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Reply #49 on: October 03, 2004, 03:52:26 AM
Where did Jesus go?
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