HIV

[zheer]

Something to worry about. Do you know when you cut your hair at the hair dressers, the use this blade to shave the hair on the back of the neck, well some hair dressers replace that blade every time, but some dont. Anyway today i noticed that this lady did not use a new blade i had a look to see if any blood was on the balde , i saw no blood. When i got home i had to check if i was bleeding, luckly i saw no blood, just a slight pink patch on my neck. Am panicing should i see a doctor, is it possible to contract HIV this way, please say NO.

[pianistimo]

no.  but, it's very good you are careful.  i'm sure it has to be bodily fluids (blood to blood).

i wonder this very same thing about nail salons.  some are very careful to use new manicure sticks, clippers, etc.  and some don't look like they are.

same at the hospital with needles.  when you are mildly incapacitated - people can kill you even though you might be in for a minor surgery.  i think, unless i was dying, i'd opt for no transfusion.  the blood supply may be clear these days, but i don't want to take a chance.  that was one of the bigger reasons that i had a closed reduction on my leg.  it may sound silly to other people, but i don't want to be the 1 in a 100,000 people that get stuck with some blood borne disease from the hospital (like hepatitis).

i think it's excellent to speak up ahead of time and ask.  is that a new blade, or orange stick, or needle? 

* i know this is gross, but what if an HIV positive chef spit on a salad?  would that do it?  i suppose from day to day we never really know what's going on and have to have a certain amount of trust, too.  if you are really concerned (like me) you might want to opt for a country town instead of the big city.

[pianistimo]

when you have children, it's a good idea to do that routine of saving the cord blood for them in case they have an accident.  it's their exact blood type anyway, and you won't have to wait for blood if their type is in short supply.  also, you know what you are getting! 

[zheer]

no.  but, it's very good you are careful.  i'm sure it has to be bodily fluids (blood to blood).

 

* i know this is gross, but what if an HIV positive chef spit on a salad?  would that do it?  i suppose from day to day we never really know what's going on and have to have a certain amount of trust, too.  if you are really concerned (like me) you might want to opt for a country town instead of the big city.

   Thanks pianistimo i feel a little better now, so i wont argue with you.
That thing about chef spiting in salad, dont worry about that, you would have to drink a lot of spit to get HIV.   The thing about HIV is that you can be infected so easly, through blood.


   The thing about children, i might think about it when am a lot older, like 20 years from now.

[Jacey1973]

HIV is so scary. I do also worry about it too. I can't believe so many people still have unprotected sex. I saw a programme made by a guy who had HIV and he had no idea - until his partner became ill all the time and found he had HIV, then this guy realised he also had it and had passed it on to his partner. He must have felt so bad 

I was thinking the other day - when you have a new partner/boyfriend/girlfriend etc, it is difficult to say "oh do you mind having a HIV test before we sleep together?" Because you wouldn't know how to ask them and would be worried abou how they would react if you were still getting to know them. However i would think this is compulsory - as how do you know the sexual history of a person?

[zheer]

HIV is so scary.

  That is one of the reasons why i dont sleep around, infact one night stands is a big NONO.
I would ask before having sex have you been tested, and would use protection, but you know there are more than one way of contracting HIV.
    The idea of no sex before marrig is long gon.

[gilad]

yes, i think that they should change the blade. no i highly doubt you contracted HIV, even if there was HIV infected blood on the blade the virus dies after being  exposed to air for a short peiriod of time( from seconds to a few minutes, not sure).  
my housekeeper is HIV postive, she got it from her husband who died 3 years ago from a "myseterious" illness. it freaks me out a bit, but she doesnt do our cooking and i 'm confident that the chances of me getting HIV are near impossible.
it's scary in africa how many men wont use a condom, they dont trust them, for some reason, superstition and lack of education.
Over here a conservative estimate of HIV infected people is 1 in 10.
but, Zheer i'm sure you're fine.

[zheer]

Thanks gilad for that information, i did not know that.
Be carefull that you dont get infected by that person accidently.

[leahcim]

Is it pianostreet's annual act like Howard Hughes week? No one said...

[pianistimo]

said what?  spit it out.  (on second thought, don't spit right here).

[paris]

that about hiv positive chef spitting in salad...yuck it IS gross but you certainly won't pick hiv by eating it. neither by kissing or touching infected person. only way to pick hiv is through blood and sperm as far as i'm informed

[pianohopper]

only way to pick hiv is through blood and sperm as far as i'm informed

or breast milk and vaginal fluids.  sorry honey, can't blame it only on the men and their sperm this time!   

[leahcim]

said what?

That it was "pianostreet's annual act like" and so on, assuming it is.

[jolly]

5% of all patients admitted to a hospital will acquire an infection or disease from being in the hospital - it's just the nature of the beast.

I would suggest y'all review CDC's list of potentially infectious body fluids...might make you sit up and take notice....

[leahcim]

5% of all patients admitted to a hospital will acquire an infection or disease from being in the hospital - it's just the nature of the beast.

But, if I'm understanding the thread's point, if it's not HIV then it doesn't matter.

I would suggest y'all review CDC's list of potentially infectious body fluids...might make you sit up and take notice....

Again, spitting in the salad years ago wasn't such an issue. There are things worse than being ill or dying of something else

[pianolearner]

Something to worry about. Do you know when you cut your hair at the hair dressers, the use this blade to shave the hair on the back of the neck, well some hair dressers replace that blade every time, but some dont. Anyway today i noticed that this lady did not use a new blade i had a look to see if any blood was on the balde , i saw no blood. When i got home i had to check if i was bleeding, luckly i saw no blood, just a slight pink patch on my neck. Am panicing should i see a doctor, is it possible to contract HIV this way, please say NO.

I'm not sure if you can contract HIV from a haircut but the solution is to cut your own hair! Unless you have a complicated style it isn't difficult to do it on your own, even better if you have someone you trust do it for you. I bought a Professional Remington hair trimmer (Just like the ones hairdressers use) and it was less than the price of 3 haircuts. My "style" is short, 3/8" Top, 1/8" back and sides. I felt like I was wasting money paying someone to do this.

I have heard of people contracting HIV from a dentist who didn't autoclave his tools.

[zheer]

I have heard of people contracting HIV from a dentist who didn't autoclave his tools.

 Am never going to go to a dentist again, that is too scary.

[stevie]

stay away from my bumhole

[jolly]

But, if I'm understanding the thread's point, if it's not HIV then it doesn't matter.

Again, spitting in the salad years ago wasn't such an issue. There are things worse than being ill or dying of something else

Hep C may kill you faster than HIV, if you respond to protease inhibitors.

Lots of scary stuff out there....

[zheer]

stay away from my bumhole

  O my god, Stevie you didnt tell us you were, AHAM. Anyway haw is Adam. Only joking please dont take it seriously.

[leahcim]

Hep C may kill you faster than HIV, if you respond to protease inhibitors.

Yeah. there aren't many things that aren't faster.

I'll go and have a cigarette and see if I can think of one...

[contrapunctus]

alright, the facts: The Human Immunodeficiency Virus cannot kill people. It destroys a persons immune system after which the person will die from a cold. It, itself does not kill. Since it is a virus and not living it cannot be killed with drugs. It engages a warfare between the immune system and the virus. The virus nearly always wins. Magic Johnson is the only exception because he took million dolar experamental drugs which helped the immune system fight. Since the virus attacks immune system cells, it is only going to be in places where those cells are: blood, lymph, genital fluids, etc. It will not be in places that do not have immune system cells like saliva. Also, if two sex partners are virgins and have not messed around with dirty needles, nobody will get aids. This is why the church says wait till you are married to have sex so that you will not get STD's.

Lets just hope ebola or marburg does not break out in a pandemic.

[mycrabface]

Something to worry about. Do you know when you cut your hair at the hair dressers, the use this blade to shave the hair on the back of the neck, well some hair dressers replace that blade every time, but some dont. Anyway today i noticed that this lady did not use a new blade i had a look to see if any blood was on the balde , i saw no blood. When i got home i had to check if i was bleeding, luckly i saw no blood, just a slight pink patch on my neck. Am panicing should i see a doctor, is it possible to contract HIV this way, please say NO.

PSSSST! have you done anything that you shouldn't be doing??

[zheer]

PSSSST! have you done anything that you shouldn't be doing??

  very funny, no not to my Knowledge, but hang on what is that lady doing in my bed.

[mycrabface]

  very funny, no not to my Knowledge, but hang on what is that lady doing in my bed.

Hmmm....... lets see.... many possibilities here eh.... Hmmm.. ok, lets do a little back-tracking.. Where were you last night?

[zheer]

Hmmm....... lets see.... many possibilities here eh.... Hmmm.. ok, lets do a little back-tracking.. Where were you last night?

 
   Good question, cant remember.

[mycrabface]

 
   Good question, cant remember.

WOT? you don't remember, do you? (Slap!)

[pianolearner]

  very funny, no not to my Knowledge, but hang on what is that lady doing in my bed.

Hopefully she wasn't giving you a haircut or checking your teeth.

[zheer]

Hopefully she wasn't giving you a haircut or checking your teeth.

   Well, my hair looks the same and my teeth is fine, so i gess she was giving me something else, did i just say that.
    On a more serious note, am not that type of guy, am not deeply religious, just carefull.

[mycrabface]

 
    On a more serious note, am not that type of guy, am not deeply religious, just carefull.

A religious guy worried sick about hiv... hmmmm......

[zheer]

A religious guy worried sick about hiv... hmmmm......

  Hey i didnt say i was religious, though i do believe in god. But yes HIV is O SO FRIGHTNING. Just for the record i did some research, and i got yes possibly and no, no chance.

[lau]

I think zheer is worrying to much

[gilad]

rather worry to much than to little.

[zheer]

I think zheer is worrying to much

    I think you and gilad are both correct.

[pianistimo]

better to fear God anyway!  everyone has to die from something.  though, i would say HIV wouldn't be my choice.  i do admire people who have the courage to work with the millions that have it.  suppose it can only be spread by the ways above mentioned that are confirmed. 

last night we watched a show myth busters and found that there are multiple ways to do damage to oneself.  bottlerockets (trying to fly), crash testing, severing a limb....one has to be careful.  *my kids went snowboarding for the first time yesterday.  they came back very quiet.

[zheer]

better to fear God anyway!  everyone has to die from something.  though, i would say HIV wouldn't be my choice. 

    True.

[gilad]

last night we watched a show myth busters and found that there are multiple ways to do damage to oneself.  bottlerockets (trying to fly), crash testing, severing a limb....one has to be careful.  *my kids went snowboarding for the first time yesterday.  they came back very quiet.

i love that show, it's pretty cool, good entertainment!

[pianistimo]

my sister-in-law induced me to watch it.  she said that her boys liked the show and so there we sat.  watching measurements of bottle rockets to see what the best proportion of water to air was.  1/3 water 2/3 air seemed to be the best.  then, they go on to see what would propulse the lady on the show 10-12 feet in the air.  next shot - the dock - where however many bottles were taped together and adequately pumped up.  thankfully they used a dummy twice and decided after watching it that it would be a bad idea to strap a human to the bottlerockets.  instead of zooming up in the air -  a swift curve toward the water at breakneck speed was induced. 

yes.  i do like the show too!  you have to watch it for a while to get the idea of what they are trying to do.

i thought my son was going to die when my (now 11 year old) sprayed him whilst he was sitting on the toilet (full blast) with the fire extinguisher she was playing with in the hall closet.  i was afraid he wouldn't be able to breath for all the white dust sprayed at his upper torso.  he had left the bathroom door open and the fire extinguisher was aimed straight at him.  i still don't know how she figured out to pull the wire and push it down - let alone aim it at him.

[zheer]

  Ok so if one does contract HIV haw soon will they know, ie the physical symptoms , a week three weeks , or a year or several years just curious.

  Reason why i ask is because i had a nother hair cut, and this time the person who cut my hair said that if a hair dresser in negligent they should close the place down.

[pianistimo]

the CDC says an HIV antibody test taken 3 months after possible infection should tell you if you have it.  sometime symptoms do not become persistent for years (according to them - the communicable disease center).  also, i thought on tv i saw some kind of test you order and do yourself with saliva?  i didn't really pay attention but it made me wonder why saliva if it isn't present in the mouth?  maybe contrapunctus is wrong or right?  i don't know.

there are places that probably do free testing. 

if i were you, i'd not worry.  especially since you seemed somewhat confident that your girlfriend didn't have it.  if somehow she did - it would be very sad thing.  when people marry here in the usa they are required to take blood tests (at least we used to - and that is what happned with my husband and myself).  at the time i was young and in love and could have cared less since he looked relatively healthy.  but, from tv shows and stuff - i hear that's how many people become infected.  they do not know their partner has it.

the signs the cdc says to watch for (which may or may not exist and also may be part of a another illness and not AIDS at all):

high fever
heavy sweating at night
fatigue

of course, fatigue can happen from stress alone.  maybe your mind is stressing you and you feel tired thinking about it.  pray about it!  noone will judge you if you are tested.  but, i also believe that God is a great healer.  even if we die of the worst possible disease - He will ressurrect us according to His word.  with a new body.  one that will never die again.  some people want to speed up that process and go commit suicide by trying to catch aids and things.  i don't think that's very smart.  but, if someone died because they did have it - i would see no reason not to feel as compassionate towards them as anyone else. 

[zheer]

   You know i did some research on the net and apparently 46 million individuals have died from the virus , can you imagin, also did some research on the cause and effect of hiv so yes no need to stress over it. Anyway i think thats wise what you did before you married your husband, if do ever marry a women, its not romantic i know but a simple home test is probably a good idea, and yes god does keep a watch full eye on us all.

[pianistimo]

wow.  46 million?  thankfully, we don't live in africa.  but, you know, it's not really where you live because God can protect us anywhere.  i still like the country better than the city.  seems that when people are crowded together they share more of everything.

good thing you are mindful of your own cleanliness levels, too.

[zheer]

good thing you are mindful of your own cleanliness levels,

  LOL, i've been brought up by my mother, so the thing about cleanliness and domestic work has been drumed into my head.

[leahcim]

  LOL, i've been brought up by my mother, so the thing about cleanliness and domestic work has been drumed into my head.

In that case, don't have that head shaved next time and use it as a mop instead of a drum

As for stats, how many of those 46 million died from AIDS / HIV contracted via a haircut? None? How many people die from any disease / accident or even malicious act related to the art of hairdressery? What is that as a %age of the number of haircuts / hairdressers?

What %age of people who die have long or unkempt hair?

Lots of Africans die of starvation too. What is the risk that the same thing could happen to Rosanne Barr if she takes a "I'm not in Africa" attitude to starvation and skips lunch?

Lastly, [US respondants and standstead residents only] how many planes have crashed or been put at risk as a result of hairdressing? Considering that number of flights compared with the number of flights in total - are you still frightened of flying next to people with funny hair? [perhaps they hide it with a hat or something?] Are you still happy to have a rectal examination if your hair was trimmed within 6 months of boarding a USA flight?