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Among your 10 favorites symphonies, HOW MANY would be from Beethoven?

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Offline stormx

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Beethoven symphonies - how many in your top ten?
on: January 23, 2006, 06:50:14 PM
Hope the question is clear enough   :) :)

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Re: Beethoven symphonies - how many in your top ten?
Reply #1 on: January 23, 2006, 06:52:42 PM
interesting poll

5,6,7,9

about 4

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Re: Beethoven symphonies - how many in your top ten?
Reply #2 on: January 23, 2006, 07:02:38 PM
My favorite 10 Symphonies....

Beethoven... 2, 4, 7 (my favorite of Ludwig's) , 9

Mozart... 38 (my favorite of all), 40, 41

Brahms... 4

Shostakovich... 8

Mahler... 5, 6

Yes that's eleven, but I could not eliminate any of these. As always with these poll threads (I like them) it's the first thing(s) that enters my mind. Subject to change after consideration...   :)
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Re: Beethoven symphonies - how many in your top ten?
Reply #3 on: January 23, 2006, 09:13:30 PM
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Corigliano Symphony No. 1
Ives Symphony No. 4
Penderecki Symphony No. 1
Penderecki Symphony No. 5
Penderecki Symphony No. 7
Shostakovich Symphony No. 10
Shostakovich Symphony No. 15
Prokofiev Symphony No. 4
Rautavaara Symphony No. 7
Hindemith Symphony "Mathis de Mahler"
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Re: Beethoven symphonies - how many in your top ten?
Reply #4 on: January 23, 2006, 10:14:48 PM
I don't listen to symphonies as often as I listen to piano, so my repetoire is a bit limited.

Top 5:

Rachmaninov, No. 1
Scriabin, Poem of Ecstasy
Tcherepnin, No. 3
Prokofiev, No. 5
Mahler, No. 10 (only the finished movement)

Second tier of 5:

Prokofiev, No. 2
Prokofiev, No. 6 (except the last movement)
Shostakovich, No. 15
Scriabin, Prometheus
Dvorak, No. 4 (first two movements)

5 honorable mention:

Scriabin, No. 1
Stravinsky, The Rite of Spring (Stravinsky conducting)
Dvorak, No. 8
Rachmaninov, Isle of the Dead
Messiaen Turangalila (original version)

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Re: Beethoven symphonies - how many in your top ten?
Reply #5 on: January 24, 2006, 12:16:01 AM
Top 10

No order


1. Tschaikowsky "Manfred" Op. 58
2. Tschaikowsky No. 6
3. Brahms No. 4
4. Brahms No. 1
5. Beethoven No. 9
6. Beethoven No. 6
7. Mendelssohn No. 4
8. Schumann No. 3
9. Schubert No. 5
10. Schubert No. 9
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Re: Beethoven symphonies - how many in your top ten?
Reply #6 on: January 24, 2006, 01:10:54 AM
Top 10 Symphonies:

Brahms 4
Beethoven 9
Mozart 41
Mahler 9/6
Bruckner 8/9
Tchaikovsky 5/6
Beethoven 6/7/5
Shostakovich 5/8/10
Prokofiev 5
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Re: Beethoven symphonies - how many in your top ten?
Reply #7 on: January 24, 2006, 02:04:53 AM
This is tough...

Beethoven 9
Brahms 1
Carey 4  ;)
Ives 2
Mahler 1
Mahler 2
Penderecki 2
Rachmaninoff 2
Shostakovich 5
Tchaikowsky 6

Something like that...

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Re: Beethoven symphonies - how many in your top ten?
Reply #9 on: January 24, 2006, 04:23:11 AM
 ;)

...I mean, do you really have a preference between Mahler 4 and Beethoven 8?  I love all the Beethoven symphonies but really can't get my head around whether I like them any more or any less than Mahler's 9 and 3/4, Brahms' 4, etc.

I guess if I could only keep ten in my CD collection...how sad.
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Re: Beethoven symphonies - how many in your top ten?
Reply #10 on: January 24, 2006, 10:41:51 AM
Beethoven 3,5,6,9
Mozart 40
Liszt Symphonic Poems 1,3,4,11,12

- nuff said...

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Re: Beethoven symphonies - how many in your top ten?
Reply #11 on: January 24, 2006, 02:57:47 PM
Ummm - is it ok to say that there would be nine in the top ten? :)

Seriously, at least 3.  Possibly a couple more.

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Re: Beethoven symphonies - how many in your top ten?
Reply #12 on: January 24, 2006, 08:13:40 PM
Who is the ultra-fanatic of LvB that voted 9?
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Re: Beethoven symphonies - how many in your top ten?
Reply #13 on: January 24, 2006, 08:42:38 PM

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Re: Beethoven symphonies - how many in your top ten?
Reply #14 on: January 24, 2006, 08:47:49 PM
Yes, did you say something?

Apparently he likes Penderecki, just not the Symphony No. 2, seeing as how I put three Penderecki Symphonies on my list and didn't get so much as a raised eyebrow.


Or maybe he's just starved for your attention cuz he <3's joo.
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Re: Beethoven symphonies - how many in your top ten?
Reply #15 on: January 24, 2006, 08:51:58 PM
Does that stand for Well-Tempered Fiddle?

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Re: Beethoven symphonies - how many in your top ten?
Reply #16 on: January 26, 2006, 04:52:09 AM
What is wrong with you? Beethoven 9 is the greatest musical acheivment of the human race! It completely moved the musical world from classic-dominated to romantic-dominated. No one but Beethoven has ever had the genius to write such a piece.
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Re: Beethoven symphonies - how many in your top ten?
Reply #17 on: January 26, 2006, 05:28:19 AM
No one but Beethoven has ever had the genius to write such a piece.

Well thats because he wrote it! Its just like Bach dident have the genius to write Mozarts requiem, and Chopin dident have the emotions to write Rachmaninoffs piano concertos.

A different person, a different era....But yes, a genius.
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Re: Beethoven symphonies - how many in your top ten?
Reply #18 on: January 26, 2006, 05:42:55 AM
What is wrong with you? Beethoven 9 is the greatest musical acheivment of the human race! It completely moved the musical world from classic-dominated to romantic-dominated. No one but Beethoven has ever had the genius to write such a piece.

 ;D   Oh Contra, there you go again.  You can safely say that about Beethoven 3, and it is not unheard of to say that the shift happened at the premier of Mozart's The Magic Flute, which is entirely romantic aesthetically.

And correct me if I am wrong, but there is a substantial amount of music by Schubert that no would seriously think of as belonging in the classical period that was written before Beethoven's 9th.   The Erl King is not precisely the first movement of KV 545, you know?

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Re: Beethoven symphonies - how many in your top ten?
Reply #19 on: January 27, 2006, 04:51:59 AM
;D   Oh Contra, there you go again.  You can safely say that about Beethoven 3, and it is not unheard of to say that the shift happened at the premier of Mozart's The Magic Flute, which is entirely romantic aesthetically.

And correct me if I am wrong, but there is a substantial amount of music by Schubert that no would seriously think of as belonging in the classical period that was written before Beethoven's 9th.   The Erl King is not precisely the first movement of KV 545, you know?

 ::)

Romantic- Dominated after beethoven. sure you had people like brahms who tried to keep it alive, but the romantics dominated.  Anyway, I know schubert was a romanticist, I never said otherwise.

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Re: Beethoven symphonies - how many in your top ten?
Reply #20 on: January 27, 2006, 04:41:56 PM
Romantic- Dominated after beethoven. sure you had people like brahms who tried to keep it alive, but the romantics dominated.  Anyway, I know schubert was a romanticist, I never said otherwise.




Excuse me.  Did you just say that Brahms was a classical composer?
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Re: Beethoven symphonies - how many in your top ten?
Reply #21 on: January 27, 2006, 05:01:28 PM
what?
This stands for "Well Tempered Flute", presumably...

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Re: Beethoven symphonies - how many in your top ten?
Reply #22 on: January 27, 2006, 05:02:59 PM
Does that stand for Well-Tempered Fiddle?
Ha! You got there first! Well done! I should have read all the subsequent posts first before replying to "that" one...

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Re: Beethoven symphonies - how many in your top ten?
Reply #23 on: January 27, 2006, 05:40:52 PM
What is wrong with you? Beethoven 9 is the greatest musical acheivment of the human race! It completely moved the musical world from classic-dominated to romantic-dominated. No one but Beethoven has ever had the genius to write such a piece.
I think the ending is annoyingly propagandistic. I don't like the end of Handel's Messiah, either.

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Re: Beethoven symphonies - how many in your top ten?
Reply #24 on: January 27, 2006, 05:56:37 PM
I think the ending is annoyingly propagandistic. I don't like the end of Handel's Messiah, either.
Sacrilegious though it would seem to some, I fear that I cannot disagree with you on this - except to say that I have no doubt that Beethoven never actually intended any such thing; to me, the finale of 9 is a most intriguing experiment that just doesn't quite come off in the end - and the sentiments expressed in the words he set just don't help. I do suspect, however, that the exercise at least provided Beethoven with some of the fuel to set the Missa Solemnis alight. All this is, of course, is absolutely no more than a personal reaction...

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Re: Beethoven symphonies - how many in your top ten?
Reply #25 on: January 28, 2006, 02:16:38 AM
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