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Offline schnabels_grandson

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Who is your Teacher?
on: December 06, 2003, 05:24:19 AM
Hi, I'm new to the forum and don't know if this has been asked before so forgive me if it has(still reply though).  My question is: Who is/are your teacher(s)?  Who taght them and do they have a lineage bach to a famous composer?  
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Re: Who is your Teacher?
Reply #1 on: December 06, 2003, 05:43:55 AM
Well, my teacher are my books of music :) They go pretty much directly back to famous composers.

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Re: Who is your Teacher?
Reply #2 on: December 06, 2003, 07:08:47 AM
My teacher is Ann Miller, who is now a retired professor of piano at Lewis and Clark University in Portland, Oregon.  She has had an illustrious career as a recitalist and adjudicator, and I am darned lucky to have her as a teacher.  She still does concerts with a classical saxophist in California.  She's an excellent teacher.  I think her mother taught her for some number of years, but I doubt if there is any direct lineage to famous composers.
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Re: Who is your Teacher?
Reply #3 on: December 06, 2003, 02:54:03 PM
What an interesting question! My current teacher is Vincent Barr (who studied with Ruth Harte at the Royal Academy of Music). He did show me once how he could trace the line back to Liszt and beyond but I forget the exact details! I will have a new teacher when I finish school next year though (Joanna MacGregor is a possibility  :)),
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Re: Who is your Teacher?
Reply #4 on: December 06, 2003, 04:21:19 PM
My teacher is Dr. Charlotte Mueller. I would have no idea if you could trace her back to any famous composers or performers.

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Re: Who is your Teacher?
Reply #5 on: December 07, 2003, 02:23:47 AM
My teacher is this woman who studied with some guy who can be traced back to John Smith.
She's a fantastic teacher.
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Re: Who is your Teacher?
Reply #6 on: December 07, 2003, 02:36:37 AM
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My teacher is this woman who studied with some guy who can be traced back to John Smith.
She's a fantastic teacher.


As was John Smith,
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Re: Who is your Teacher?
Reply #7 on: December 10, 2003, 01:43:04 PM
At first, it was Lydia Wiebe, who brought me up in piano from the very basics (after graduating from the Yamaha Music School ;)).  She was the one that instilled the necessary knowledge I needed to be a proficient pianist, and has taught me for 10 to 11 years.  Her work was incredible and will not be missed.   :'(

But now, I am studying with Dr. Judy Kehler Siebert, who is a professor at the University of Manitoba School of Music.  She is a great teacher and will guide me through ARCT to the "big world of music".

https://www.umanitoba.ca/schools/music/faculty/kehler_siebert.html
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Re: Who is your Teacher?
Reply #8 on: December 14, 2003, 04:34:41 AM

My teacher is Prof Nina Svetlanova.

I'm a 2nd generation Neuhaus student.

One generation away from Richter and Gilels (They were taught by Heinrich Neuhaus, as was my teacher).

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Re: Who is your Teacher?
Reply #9 on: December 17, 2003, 05:06:11 AM
My teacher's teacher got taught by Cortot, which somehow makes me feel all cool by association.

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Re: Who is your Teacher?
Reply #10 on: December 17, 2003, 04:46:39 PM
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My teacher's teacher got taught by Cortot, which somehow makes me feel all cool by association.


wow! thats pretty cool!
I didn't know that there are so much connections with the great pianists here in australia

My ex-teacher studied piano with Regina Horowitz (sister of Vladimir Horowitz) and Tatiana Kravchenko (student of Lev Oborin, who was a teacher of Vladimir Ashkenazy).

and My current teacher studied with ARRAU, (this is so cool, you could trace back to beethoven, its like Beethoven's student - Czerny - Liszt - Krause - Arrau, what a big, happy family we got here ;D )

gosh! with all these backgrounds I should be touring around the world as a concert pianist now, lol  ;D
why am i not? why am i not?  :-[

So i guess its still depending more on yourself!

gotta practice real hard from now on...   :'(
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Re: Who is your Teacher?
Reply #11 on: December 18, 2003, 01:45:01 AM
I thought the same thing - that Australia was a bit of a great pianist desert, but it isn't! There's lots of teachers around these parts who got taught by the best.

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Re: Who is your Teacher?
Reply #12 on: December 18, 2003, 04:55:07 AM
My teacher is the Theory Examinations editor and a State Examiner for the AMEB - Australian Music Examinations Board. She also lectures part time at the Sydney Conservatorium of Music.

She told me once she traced her teacher's line history all the way back to Grieg!
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Re: Who is your Teacher?
Reply #13 on: February 28, 2004, 10:49:31 AM
Here is my list:
Me!
Surojeet Chatterji (My teacher)
Erina Smorodinova
Emil Gilels
Reingbald (Gilels' teacher before Neuhaus)
Anna Yesipova
Leschetzky
Czerny
Beethoven!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Who is your Teacher?
Reply #14 on: February 28, 2004, 01:44:26 PM
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Here is my list:
Me!
Surojeet Chatterji (My teacher)
Erina Smorodinova
Emil Gilels
Reingbald (Gilels' teacher before Neuhaus)
Anna Yesipova
Leschetzky
Czerny
Beethoven!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Don't forget Christian Gottlob Neefe! (1748-1798)
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Re: Who is your Teacher?
Reply #15 on: March 03, 2004, 12:51:26 AM
My teacher was taught by a student of Leschetizsky, and was taught by his own father who was a student of Neuhaus (who was taught by Godowsky  ;))

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Re: Who is your Teacher?
Reply #16 on: March 22, 2004, 11:39:27 PM
My teacher is Patricia Neznek..of Milford, TinyState, USA..She says that she can be traced back to Bach. She also has a bedspread that was used in the guest room of her teacher/coach, who hosted several famous pianists. 'tsa shame I don't know their names.
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Re: Who is your Teacher?
Reply #17 on: March 23, 2004, 10:54:05 AM
A woman who taught all of my sisters is now my teacher.  Mrs. Lee.  

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Re: Who is your Teacher?
Reply #18 on: March 25, 2004, 10:50:43 PM
Me ... taught by >
Melissa Marrion >
Karen Dayas >
William H. Dayas >
Liszt >
Czerny >
Beethoven

I think it's pretty cool, more for the Liszt than the Beethoven

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Re: Who is your Teacher?
Reply #19 on: March 28, 2004, 08:12:46 PM
My teacher is Michail Markov, who studied with Victor Merzhanov at the Moscow Tscaikovsky Conservatory.

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Reply #20 on: April 06, 2004, 12:44:49 PM
My teacher is someone I have never seen, nor spoke with. He is a humble being, one pocessing great knowledge and intellect of all things classical. It's quite possible I have learned more from him in the past 2 months, than from my regular coach. He is, of course....

Bernard!!!!

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Re: Who is your Teacher?
Reply #21 on: April 06, 2004, 02:20:27 PM
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My teacher is someone I have never seen, nor spoke with. He is a humble being, one pocessing great knowledge and intellect of all things classical. It's quite possible I have learned more from him in the past 2 months, than from my regular coach. He is, of course....

Bernard!!!!

;D ;D ;D



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Re: Who is your Teacher?
Reply #22 on: April 07, 2004, 04:52:27 AM
I agree. Bernhard has helped me heaps. A very special person to share his knowledge.  I love you Bernhard!!!

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Reply #23 on: April 08, 2004, 06:46:35 AM
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I agree. Bernhard has helped me heaps. A very special person to share his knowledge.  I love you Bernhard!!!


Yeah i will second that.... And also to my dear friend Rachfan, who has helped me a great deal, even more than he will ever know.

Here i would wanna say thanks to him... for being my unseen teacher, for being my friend... and for everything else that i ahve not mentioned here...

Dont we miss his posts over here?  ::)

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Re: Who is your Teacher?
Reply #24 on: April 09, 2004, 03:34:54 AM
Thanks, Zhiliang!

I very much appreciate your kind comments!  It's sometimes difficult to coach someone in piano half way around the world over the Internet.  In a studio setting one can critique, describe, demonstrate, and inspire.  In a written message one can attempt to explain a concept or suggestion in great detail, hoping that its resulting execution will be correct.  But in not actually being there to hear the playing, it's always impossible to tell.  Also, most students (including myself) sometimes exaggerate a teacher's instructions at first in the playing.  Hearing that outcome in the same room, the teacher can easily correct the problem.  In this virtual world, it's like flying blind, or in this case, flying deaf.  

A while ago I helped prepare a young lady for an audition.  She was applying for a piano pedagogy program at a university.  We worked very intensively over the Internet.  She was accepted and is now finishing up her freshman year.  It would have been 100 times easier coaching her in person though, and the results would have likely been far superior.  Yet it worked well enough to achieve the objective.  

Thanks again!  It's been a pleasure working with you, Zhiliang.  

David  
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Re: Who is your Teacher?
Reply #25 on: November 18, 2005, 09:24:16 PM
me... ->
alexei eremine...->
alexander satz...->
 leonid brumberg...->
heinrich neuhaus!
 :)

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Re: Who is your Teacher?
Reply #26 on: November 18, 2005, 10:21:20 PM
My teacher is Dylan Savage and his teachers were Michel Block, who won the Arthur Rubinstein Prize in Warsaw at the 1960 Fréderic Chopin International Competition. Mr. Rubinstein, having been displeased with the jury's verdicts, invented the prize on the spot and personally made the award to Mr. Block. And Sedmara Rutstein (who studied with Nadezhda Golubovskaya).

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Re: Who is your Teacher?
Reply #27 on: November 19, 2005, 10:10:48 AM
You guys are so full of yourselfs, some of you guys sound like  13 year old boys talking about your dadys BMW. The fact that not a single one of you are famous is also intresting.
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Re: Who is your Teacher?
Reply #28 on: November 22, 2005, 01:53:49 AM
Didn't Liszt teach an insane amount of students? So many pianists of the day would call themselves students of Liszt that if you wanted to you could link any current teacher back to Liszt -> Czerny -> Beethoven (-> Neefe -> Neefe's dad's BMW -> Jesus... -> God's BMW).

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Reply #29 on: November 22, 2005, 09:01:34 PM
1. Me
2. Sato
3. Fleisher
4. Schnabel
5. Leschetizky
6. Liszt
7. Czerny
8. Beethoven

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Re: Who is your Teacher?
Reply #30 on: November 22, 2005, 09:46:58 PM
You guys are so full of yourselfs, some of you guys sound like 13 year old boys talking about your dadys BMW. The fact that not a single one of you are famous is also intresting.

HAHAHA SO TRUE!!! Anyway... my teaher was taught by Martin Roscoe... anyone else heard of him?

I think im related to God in a strage way... even though... in my opinion.. he doesn't exist... LOL :o And Jesus and everyone if Adam and Eve is true... I'm related to you Zheer!!!
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Re: Who is your Teacher?
Reply #31 on: November 23, 2005, 12:52:34 AM
You guys are so full of yourselfs, some of you guys sound like  13 year old boys talking about your dadys BMW. The fact that not a single one of you are famous is also intresting.

I'm not claiming to be famous, and I'm not even claiming to be a good pianist. I though it was an interesting topic, that's all. I'm sure the topic starter and most posters felt the same way.

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Re: Who is your Teacher?
Reply #32 on: November 23, 2005, 08:31:05 AM


I think im related to God in a strage way. I'm related to you Zheer!!!

If you think that way i gess you could say we are also related to cats and dogs. Anyway imagin Horowitz a relative.
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Re: Who is your Teacher?
Reply #33 on: November 24, 2005, 09:17:08 PM
HAHAHA SO TRUE!!! Anyway... my teaher was taught by Martin Roscoe... anyone else heard of him?

I'm having a lesson with matin roscoe, my teacher knows him, and has sent me to get some lessons from him, I hear he is amazing!! I guess I'll find out when I get my lesson off him

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Re: Who is your Teacher?
Reply #34 on: November 24, 2005, 09:19:56 PM
Why does the quate never work when I try, my last message is the bottom lines of the "quote"

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Re: Who is your Teacher?
Reply #35 on: November 24, 2005, 09:39:17 PM
Why does the quate never work when I try, my last message is the bottom lines of the "quote"


   hehehe, try not deleting the word quote found at the end.
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Re: Who is your Teacher?
Reply #36 on: November 24, 2005, 10:06:44 PM
I have had several  teachers, and therefore several different lineages, here they are, my teachers capitalized...


1. KING BOSWORTH>Katherine Bacon>Ernest Hutcheson>Carl Reinecke>Liszt>Czerny>Beethoven
    Mr. Bosworth also studied with Lili Kraus, see below...
 
2. KING BOSWORTH(2)>Lili Kraus>Artur Schnabel>Leschetizky>Czerny>Beethoven
    Mrs. Kraus also studied with Bartok(see below)

3. BELA NAGY>Bela Bartok>Istvan Thoman>Liszt>Czerny>Beethoven
    Dr. Nagy also studied with Dohnanyi>d'Albert>Liszt....

4. BORIS BERMAN>Lev Oborin>Konstantin Igumnov>Nikolai Zverev...I believe Zverev (the "intermediate"teacher of Rachmaninov and Scriabin) was a student of Nikolai Rubinstein, but I am not sure...are you there, Marik?

5. THOMAS STUMPF>Russell Sherman>Edward Steurmann>Ferrucio Busoni

While this pianistic geneology is interesting, I'm not sure it means anything; I'll bet most of us who take serious lessons and are serious pianists can trace our "ancestry" to someone famous or legendary. But evantually it is ourselves who carry on, regardless of who brought us to where we are...
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Re: Who is your Teacher?
Reply #37 on: November 24, 2005, 10:19:44 PM
You guys are so full of yourselfs, some of you guys sound like  13 year old boys talking about your dadys BMW. The fact that not a single one of you are famous is also intresting.

My daddy's is BIGGER than your daddy's....;D

Hey I am famous where I live!  ::)
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Re: Who is your Teacher?
Reply #38 on: November 25, 2005, 03:12:00 AM
My teacher is Prof Nina Svetlanova.

I'm a 2nd generation Neuhaus student.

One generation away from Richter and Gilels (They were taught by Heinrich Neuhaus, as was my teacher).

She is great, you are fortunate to be studying with her! :D
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Reply #39 on: November 25, 2005, 08:56:47 AM
My daddy's is BIGGER than your daddy's....;D

Hey I am famous where I live!  ::)

You have my deepest apologies.
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Reply #40 on: November 25, 2005, 10:14:44 PM
My current teacher is Earle Voorhies. He's the oldest known Julliard Graduate alive at this time, and a legendary teacher in Los Angeles. As for ancestry, he studied with Alexander Siloti, the teacher of Rachmaninoff, and pupil of Liszt.

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Reply #41 on: November 26, 2005, 10:09:03 AM
hey, i recognize that teacher!  was recommended by a cousin of my husbands, so i took a few lessons with him, too, when i used to live in pasadena, california.  he was an excellent teacher. right to the point.  and, always had a load of students seemingly.  was surprised he took me after having two children - and takinga  break.  i learned some mozart with him - and it was refreshing to get back into piano.  ireally had no idea how famous he was - except that my husband's cousin is a concert pianist - so i knew he must be good since she had him as a teacher from childhood (susan svercek).

then, we moved to lancaster - (may as well have been on the moon!) where surprisingly i found an organ teacher (ruth jones).  i don't know who she was related to - by training - but she was fun to study with.  i didn't have an organ at the time - so i couldn't practice as much as i would have liked.  she lived way out in the country and just finding her house was funny.  who would think an organist way out there.

ok.  starting with the first teacher i had, dean epperson, i would say that i learned a more 'modern' approach (bach and then 20th century).  his teachers were at peabody and bach was his specialty.  he was especially nice and bought me a recording of glen gould's wtc.  also, whenever i needed to prepare for recital or bachelor's recital, he let me practice on his piano (away from noise at home).  if it wasn't for him - i wouldn't have gotten anywhere.  then, jean-paul billaud - a french professor, who studied with cortot and others (listed way back on the other thread).  he was a professional teacher, too, and knew soooo much about music history and piano technique.  anyway, liszt and lechtitsky enter the pic somehow.  i don't really care anymore about the students involved (it's like knowing your geneology, but not knowing the actual people).  all i care about is that i can trace the lineage to beethoven. ;D

i was an average student - so i don't really know why my luck has been to get such exception teachers other than persistence, determination, and prayer to keep them for a while.  i learned a lot about discipline, interpretation, fingering through prof. billaud.  he was instrumental in my deciding to major in music (really enjoyed it) and making music professionally.  it has brought me a lot of joy in choral accompanying (which i've done more of than piano performance, so far) and accompanying my husband A LOT (almost every week for 15 years) who is a baritone.  also, i used to play for a lot of weddings, funerals, assisted living places, and was active in teaching for a while until my third child.  seems that everytime i have a child - it's about 3 years of delaying my own musical dreams - but i don't mind.  music is something i love no matter what the situation - and it has often helped me keep my sanity just to play for myself (or go and practice for a few hours).  also, i think finally my last child might be a pianist, too (the other ones don't like piano).

dr. carl cranmer has been the latest teacher (at west chester university).  he studied with some famous julliard prof's of whom i don't know much about.  seems that it most interests me what their approach is.  his is refinement as well.  minimalist moving - major pallette of sound.  i can't play like him, yet, but when i practice - i imagine things a lot easier than before.  he gave me some hope with chopin etudes (if i practiced).  and, he is innately musical.  i don't really know the lineage though - but who cares if someone plays really well - they stand on their own.  prof. cranmer is in a class by himself, because he thinks for himself and teaches according to what makes sense to him (which may be a combination of many different teachers ideas plus his own).

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Re: Who is your Teacher?
Reply #43 on: November 30, 2005, 07:04:27 AM
I would love to have Chopin as a teacher. However,  I feel lucky though.  I am a 5 generation to liszt.    I  have a different teacher now.  She is pretty much my dream teacher now from what I can tell.  Very patient, very meticulously  technical.  Concert pianist, two times international champion.  Doctoral student...Loves music and piano! There is nothing better than being taught be the best, especially when they actually LOVE what they do! 

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Reply #44 on: December 08, 2005, 12:52:08 AM
my music teacher at school, just found out his piano teacher was  a student of scriabin, and his was the best scriabin interpretor in Australia and pozzible the best in the world

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Reply #45 on: December 08, 2005, 02:39:51 AM
lhevinne -- gornidsky -- mikowsky -- cruz -- me!

but i dont feel it. hahaha.  ;D
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Reply #46 on: December 08, 2005, 05:45:50 AM
haha

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Reply #47 on: December 10, 2005, 05:18:06 AM
I had 3 teachers and I can trace two of them back to Bartok and Beethoven. It's kind of a "power trip" I guess...but it doesn't mean a thing regarding my own abilities...;)

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Reply #48 on: December 11, 2005, 03:33:10 AM
My teacher who recently died studied with Bela Bartok.

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Reply #49 on: February 25, 2006, 09:21:41 AM
My ex-teacher was Neda Stankovic. She is dead. Now, my teacher is Boris Kraljevic, student of Lev Naumov (student of Neuhaus).
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