playin guitar as well?

[wako_kato]

heya! since i have a guitar (electric and acoustic) in my house, ive started to try and teach myself, has anyone got a good suggestion for a book or website which helps a lot? does anyone else like playing? i wanted to start so i can be part of a band as wel as my classical piano playing. please giv your suggestion!! thanks

[thalbergmad]

I learnt blues guitar by getting some play along disks.

Great fun, but can't remember the name of the series.

I then bought me a "Lucille".

[Tash]

i play the guitar, but that's because i have to for uni, and i hate it. like in the end i don't mind cos it's an instrument and i like to play music, but just the instrument, playing chords, and the guitar frames and tabs and stuff drive me nuts. so do F minor chords. have come to the conclusion that the best way to learn to play songs on the guitar is by just playing everything and getting used to switching your fingers around. now i'm going to go practice singing and playing octopus's garden because that's all my co-ordination can handle at this point!

[wako_kato]

lol ok thanks, i will look in2 it, i have learnt to play one rock tune, can do nothing else at all though...

[thalbergmad]

If you are learning rock, try out one of the few "fake" guides out.

If you are playing electric guitar, you can have a great time just playing power 5ths with a lot of distortion. You can learn anything Status Quo did in 10 minutes.

You can even irritate your neighbours at the same time.

Thal

[bearzinthehood]

I didn't like having guitar calluses for piano, so I stopped playing guitar and let them go.

[Tash]

OMG power chords we were doing them the other week i was like this is dumb. guitar is dumb. and the people who play guitars are dumber! no offence to those guitarists, but seriously, the majority of them are morons.

[BoliverAllmon]

OMG power chords we were doing them the other week i was like this is dumb. guitar is dumb. and the people who play guitars are dumber! no offence to those guitarists, but seriously, the majority of them are morons.

that actually shows your lack of knowledge and makes you a moron.

[tac-tics]

The guitar is the single most overrated instrument of all time.

I tried to play guitar once. For about 10 minutes. I just can't wrap my head around the 6 strings. Really, 6 strings is just the guitar trying to show off. Hey look at me! I have 2 more strings than a violin or bass. I must be a better instrument.

Get lost guitar!

 

[bearzinthehood]

The guitar is pretty lame though.  All the people that think they can play guitar.  Too many of them.

[prometheus]

Really, 6 strings is just the guitar trying to show off. Hey look at me! I have 2 more strings than a violin or bass. I must be a better instrument.

Get lost guitar!

 

Ever heard of chords? 

[tac-tics]

Ever heard of chords? 

A chord is three or more notes at once working together. Not 6 

[prometheus]

I piano has 88 strings, isn't that just showing off?

Hmm, maybe I shouldn't take your comment that serious.

And what about a bandura?

[Tash]

that actually shows your lack of knowledge and makes you a moron.

i am very aware of that fact, i am incredibly ingnorant when i want to be

[tac-tics]

I piano has 88 strings, isn't that just showing off?

How is that showing off? The piano tends to keep all its strings hidden in its box.

Unless some fellow becomes nosey enough to pry into it.

Such busybodies those piano lookers are!

[musik_man]

OMG power chords we were doing them the other week i was like this is dumb. guitar is dumb. and the people who play guitars are dumber! no offence to those guitarists, but seriously, the majority of them are morons.

How do you get a guitarist to stop playing?

Put sheet music in front of him.

*insert drum thing that always follows a bad joke*

[buebo]

why such hate?
Anyways I've been playing the guitar for about 9 years now and it not easy to pick up for beginners, press a few keys in the right order on piano and voila a melody, while on guitar you need a little more work before you are able to do that. For rock guitar the entire Troy Stetina series are very useful, also visit this site www.ibreathemusic.com and check out all the articles (some can be intimidating for a beginner just start with the basic ones and not sweeping picking or string skipping ). And just with piano it is important to know what kind of music you want to play, and work towards playing it. Besides that, recording yourself is very useful because the guitar can be a real 'noisy' instrument in the hands of less experienced players. Listen critically and eliminate all string noise using your 2 hands (palm of your picking hand, and index finger on your fretting hand).
For getting in a band, all you need is to be able to play tight chord progressions. Then start practicing and give the lead guitarist a run for his/er money. Also learn the pentatonic scale in all positions and start doing some improvising asap, doesn't get more fun than that.

[thalbergmad]

How do you get a guitarist to stop playing?

Put sheet music in front of him.

Forwarded to Stevie Vai

[wako_kato]

yeh why so much hate towards the guitar?! i think its pretty good and helps me to relax, ok there are a lot of guitarists, but at least they are having a go!

[thalbergmad]

I find it relaxing too.

Nothing like laying back in a chair picking out some blues.

[johnny-boy]

I piano has 88 strings, isn't that just showing off?

Hmm, maybe I shouldn't take your comment that serious.

And what about a bandura?

Actually the average medium sized piano has about 230 strings.

Best, John

[prometheus]

I though only grand pianos had thee strings for each key.

[johnny-boy]

I though only grand pianos had thee strings for each key.

Hey Prometheus,

Only the low keys have single strings. The midrange has two and the higher register uses three strings. My upright is laid out this way. About 230 strings all together. I think this is pretty much standard in most pianos. Anyone care to count the strings on their piano?

Best, John

[prometheus]

Ah.

Well, if you have a grand then you do open the lid to show off all your strings...


Well, my parents didn't have a piano and I have a digital piano. So I don't know too much about piano's.

[xinox]

I dont understand you guys (those who *hate* guitar)
I've been playing guitar for 10 years (piano 5 years) and must say that
there is so many beautifull pieces(classical pieces) composed for guitar and it is
beautifull just as piano is..

Last saturday I was on classical guitar concert and it was great! All of you would change your opinion after
listening those guys..

And if you are good with strumming chords, you can always take you guitar with you and have
a great fun with your friends, wherever you go..

All I want to say is that:
Guitar is GREAT
Piano is GREAT

[thalbergmad]

And if you are good with strumming chords, you can always take you guitar with you and have
a great fun with your friends, wherever you go..

I never go anywhere without my banjo.

Thal

[annoying_airhead]

Nicely done!  =)

You could try and do some of Mauro Giuliani studies (usefu for learning 3rds and stuff)
Aaron Shearer's slur studies are ok too.

[princessdecadence]

The only thing that makes me want to play guitar is so that I can sing with my own guitar accompaniment!  Tried self-teaching it years and years back -that failed miserably, sold the guitar for 50 livres when I bought it for 300.  Oh well, end of story really but I was looking at this 29 quid guitar at the charity shop, I sort of want it...

Maybe one day I'll give it another go if I got the capital.

I bought a chords book (which I still have at home) and that helped more than anything.

These links would be helpful:

https://www.all-guitar-chords.com/
https://www.gootar.com/chordgen/
https://chordfind.com/
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/

Bon chance!

[thalbergmad]

The only thing that makes me want to play guitar is so that I can sing with my own guitar accompaniment! 

I like to do that as well, but for some strange reason, I can't play the piano and sing.

I can do a mean "Puff the Magic Dragon"

Might put it in the audition room.

Thalx

[princessdecadence]

I like to do that as well, but for some strange reason, I can't play the piano and sing.

I can do a mean "Puff the Magic Dragon"

Might put it in the audition room.

Thalx

I always play the piano and sing, I find it more natural than on the guitar.  See with the guitar I usually would have to stop and stretch my finger all the time, straining a bit I end up singing one note for longer than 1 hour just to wait for my fingers to arrange itself properly.  Piano accompaniment always sound nicer...guitar is just more relaxing and natural.  Seems more effortless to play the guitar and sing rather than the piano.

Haha Puff the Magic Dragon is my favourite song ever! lol but truly.  Try "Oh Susannah!" next

[thalbergmad]

I end up singing one note for longer than 1 hour just to wait for my fingers to arrange itself properly. 

HAHA, I have experienced that too.

Puff the magic drrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrragon, lived by the seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

Thal

[princessdecadence]

And frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called Honah lee ...

[Tash]

I always play the piano and sing, I find it more natural than on the guitar. See with the guitar I usually would have to stop and stretch my finger all the time, straining a bit I end up singing one note for longer than 1 hour just to wait for my fingers to arrange itself properly. Piano accompaniment always sound nicer...guitar is just more relaxing and natural. Seems more effortless to play the guitar and sing rather than the piano.

Haha Puff the Magic Dragon is my favourite song ever! lol but truly. Try "Oh Susannah!" next

Yeah can totally relate to that. however i must say thank god for the guitar- i've been doing my music teaching prac this week and there's no piano in the classroom so i've brought in my guitar, there's no way i'm singing without some kind of accompaniment to keep me in tune! so i must admit, it's a good thing to have in that respect. i transpose everything into D major so i can change chords easily hahahaha

[dave santino]

Guitar is my main instrument alongside piano; they vary as to which I prefer at any one time. Gotta love playing Paganini Caprices at Guildhall auditions and watching the judges' jaws drop. Personally, I prefer electric to classical guitar, mainly because I just find it more diverse tonally and musically. Not saying the classical isn't, I just find the electric moreso.

Dave

[monsieurrenard]

I piano has 88 strings, isn't that just showing off?

Hmm, maybe I shouldn't take your comment that serious.

And what about a bandura?

A piano has slightly less than 88*3 strings.

 


As for me, I wish I could play classical guitar. Maybe it's not too late  .

-Monsieur le Renard.

[princessdecadence]

Yeah can totally relate to that. however i must say thank god for the guitar- i've been doing my music teaching prac this week and there's no piano in the classroom so i've brought in my guitar, there's no way i'm singing without some kind of accompaniment to keep me in tune! so i must admit, it's a good thing to have in that respect. i transpose everything into D major so i can change chords easily hahahaha

You're making me want that charity shop guitar now...*dreams a bit*

Oh lordy how I wish I can play guitar

[minor9th]

Classical guitar is technically much harder to play than the piano. One has to form the notes as well as hit them, plus there is virtually no sustain. Within 5 minutes one could easily play a scale on the piano--not so using classical technique on the guitar. I realize piano music is often harder, but the shear mechanics of classical guitar playing is much more difficult.

[musik_man]

Classical guitar is technically much harder to play than the piano. One has to form the notes as well as hit them, plus there is virtually no sustain. Within 5 minutes one could easily play a scale on the piano--not so using classical technique on the guitar. I realize piano music is often harder, but the shear mechanics of classical guitar playing is much more difficult.

I'm convinced that all virtuoso instruments are equally as hard.  Simply because they all have had their music pushed as far as it can go.

[quasimodo]

Guitar suffers from it's image of a Pop/rock music instrument (btw I have nothing against pop and rock  and some Pop/rock guitarists are indeed superlative musician - but only a few of them lol).
When you listen to decent jazz or classical guitarists and try to figure out what they can do with 6 strings, you just have the same kind of amazement as when you watch a good pianist playing a virtuoso etude of Chopin or Rachmaninoff.
As someone stated, the mechanical part of playing a guitar is something you have to work quite more than "just" depressing keys.
Producing a neat chord of 3 notes on the piano don't take more than a few minutes. On a guitar, hell, count a few weeks if you're talented.

[johnny-boy]

This guy can really play - Tommy Emmanuel :

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Best, John

[johnny-boy]

I'm convinced that all virtuoso instruments are equally as hard.  Simply because they all have had their music pushed as far as it can go.

I agree.

Every musical instrument has limitations and challenges. None are easier or more difficult to master than the other. The possibilities of each instrument’s capabilities are forever being pushed. True, it’s easier to play a 3-note chord on the piano than a guitar, but then a guitarist isn’t expected to play massive double arpeggios in contrary motion.

Best, John

[Tash]

I agree.

Every musical instrument has limitations and challenges. None are easier or more difficult to master than the other. The possibilities of each instrument’s capabilities are forever being pushed. True, it’s easier to play a 3-note chord on the piano than a guitar, but then a guitarist isn’t expected to play massive double arpeggios in contrary motion.

Best, John

i would like to see that!