Favourite Chopin song?

[mephisto]

What is your favourite Chopin song?

I don`t think that I like any of them actually.

[psaiko]

I dont think I know of any Chopin songs.

[mephisto]

He wrote many of them.

[zheer]

What is your favourite Chopin song?

  Chopin Ballade in G minor is my favourite composition, infact i have memorized it recently so i may post it in the audition room.

[bench warmer]

I read that Chopin's favorite theme that he wrote was the opening section of the Op.10#3 Etude.

[mephisto]

I read that Chopin's favorite theme that he wrote was the opening section of the Op.10#3 Etude.

You are right. But for some reason I doubt that chopin would consider that his best song.

[bench warmer]

I read that Chopin's favorite theme that he wrote was the opening section of the Op.10#3 Etude.

You are right. But for some reason I doubt that chopin would consider that his best song.

This "song" business has been debated over & over.

Notice, I didn't use the term "song" but I'm not going to let it affect my blood pressure. Just use the appropriate terminology when you reply to Posters and maybe the message will get through.

Debating it is like hitting your head repeatedly w/a brick...It feels so go to stop

[Kassaa]

This "song" business has been debated over & over.

Notice, I didn't use the term "song" but I'm not going to let it affect my blood pressure. Just use the appropriate terminology when you reply to Posters and maybe the message will get through.

Debating it is like hitting your head repeatedly w/a brick...It feels so go to stop

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[donjuan]

This "song" business has been debated over & over.

Notice, I didn't use the term "song" but I'm not going to let it affect my blood pressure. Just use the appropriate terminology when you reply to Posters and maybe the message will get through.

Debating it is like hitting your head repeatedly w/a brick...It feels so go to stop

it's not a matter of debate; it's confusing because maybe mephisto really does mean to discuss 'Songs' that Chopin wrote for piano and voice and set to various polish texts (for example, 'The Maiden's Wish'), and wants to leave 'pieces' like the Etudes or Ballades out of it.  Either that, or he uses one name interchangably with the other, not understanding the difference..

well, mephisto, which is it?

[kriskicksass]

I've only heard a few of them in transcription by Liszt. I've been meaning to find a recording of them because I have a feeling I'd want to play them.

Of course, I'd need a singer too. 

[xinox]

  Chopin Ballade in G minor is my favourite composition, infact i have memorized it recently so i may post it in the audition room.

If someone asks me to name only one favourite composition of any composer I would say Chopin's ballade in G minor!
It is so good.. well, I cant play it (maybe in 5-6 year I'll be able to learn it) but love to hear it so
Please send your recording, I am looking forward to hear your playing..

[bench warmer]

 KKA, I think you are correct in that Mephisto really meant Song and not a Piano Solo composition.

So let's see, The one time someone actually means SONG it was not interpreted correctly!
   Mea Culpa.

[bench warmer]

 BRAIN DEATH! I meant DonJ not KKA. I'm outa here!

KKA, I think you are correct in that Mephisto really meant Song and not a Piano Solo composition.

So let's see, The one time someone actually means SONG it was not interpreted correctly!
   Mea Culpa.

[mephisto]

it's not a matter of debate; it's confusing because maybe mephisto really does mean to discuss 'Songs' that Chopin wrote for piano and voice and set to various polish texts (for example, 'The Maiden's Wish'), and wants to leave 'pieces' like the Etudes or Ballades out of it.  Either that, or he uses one name interchangably with the other, not understanding the difference..

well, mephisto, which is it?

You are right, I am talking about the songs, as in vocal music.

[ihatepop]

You are right, I am talking about the songs, as in vocal music.

Hmmm....I can't think of any Chopin 'Songs'. The composer I associate most with 'songs' is Schubert, and thats the most I'll go, I think.....

ihatepop

[thierry13]

You are right, I am talking about the songs, as in vocal music.

You allready proved you didn't mean vocal music, as you mentionned op.10 no.3 as a song, too. Songs are sung, not played. Pieces are played. Op.10 no.3 is a piece , not a song. You mentionned too there were lots of it. In fact, I don't know any, as Chopin is famous for writing exclusively for piano ! And come on ... how can you pick ONE favorite piece by Chopin ... they are all too beautiful !

[jre58591]

ok, i will be the first to actually respond intelligently to this question of my favorite chopin song. my vote goes for meine freuden. also, liszt's piano solo transcription of it isnt bad also.

[emmdoubleew]

You allready proved you didn't mean vocal music, as you mentionned op.10 no.3 as a song, too. Songs are sung, not played. Pieces are played. Op.10 no.3 is a piece , not a song. You mentionned too there were lots of it. In fact, I don't know any, as Chopin is famous for writing exclusively for piano ! And come on ... how can you pick ONE favorite piece by Chopin ... they are all too beautiful !

hahahahahhahaha WRONG 

Mephisto said: "You are right. But for some reason I doubt that chopin would consider that his best song."

If you still don't get meph's sarcasm, you're beyond help.

Also, Chopin didn't write exclusively for the piano, and he wrote many songs. You tried to sound intelligent and ended up sounding ignorant, not just once, but twice in the same post.

Let it be a lesson in humility.

[mephisto]

ok, i will be the first to actually respond intelligently to this question of my favorite chopin song. my vote goes for meine freuden. also, liszt's piano solo transcription of it isnt bad also.

Yes, Liszt`s transcriptions are very nice. I saw Andsnes perform meine freuden as an encore and it was great.

[brewtality]

fur elise

[mephisto]

actually I think moonlight sonata is even beter.

[brewtality]

We're talking about Chopin not Bach. Duh

[mephisto]

calm down it is just my oppinion, nothing to get all fussy about If I think is chopin than it is chopin to me, n bach was just a grumpy old man, couldn`t have had mch of a live when he was composing boring fuges all the time. WHERE IS THE MELODI!?

[pianowolfi]

We're talking about Chopin not Bach. Duh

Yep. Bach's Kleine Nachtmusik: ta ta ta taaaaaaaa!

[emmdoubleew]

We're talking about Chopin not Bach. Duh

in that case i don't see how anyone can argue with 4'33"

[maxy]

It seems most of us are not familiar with Chopin's op 74.   

[jre58591]

It seems most of us are not familiar with Chopin's op 74.   

it seems that you dont get the jokes here.

[maxy]

no? it's not about the 17 Polish songs op 74?

I am really sorry about that...

[Kassaa]

no? it's not about the 17 Polish songs op 74?

I am really sorry about that...

It is, so obviously jre is quite right .

[opuswriter]

If someone asks me to name only one favourite composition of any composer I would say Chopin's ballade in G minor!
It is so good..

Partly, I agree - this is indeed a masterpiece and in my opinion Chopin's first in his career of composing (at least among solo pieces). Some of Chopin's most beautiful themes reside within this ballade. The secondary theme is captivating beyond description and I really like the contrasts between the thematic sections and the more technical parts. Over time, however, I've felt that the ending, particularly the last eight bars or so, lacks much of the epic quality so evident in the rest of the piece. I'm a bit disappointed Chopin didn't find a better way to end this masterpiece than the simplistic noisy keyboard runs with octaves and thirds he chosed. Maybe it was fashion at the time which caused it.

Someone may flame me for daring to judge a true master, but this is how I feel about op.23. Overall though, nobody should have any doubts about choosing to learn this piece. You will love it and the crowd will adore it.

Comments greatly appreciated - do you feel the same way or have I completely lost it? :-)

[phil13]

Hahahahahahahahahaha

no? it's not about the 17 Polish songs op 74?

I am really sorry about that...

Yes, we are talking about Op.74. They are just making fun of the ignorant and the uneducated noobs who can't differentiate between PIECE and SONG. (read: answered Ballades, Etudes, etc.) 

Phil

[phil13]

P.S.

This thread is proof that when it comes to classical knowledge, the common man is either deaf or refuses to listen.

How many times has the argument over Piece vs. Song come up? I stopped counting after 500 or so.

Phil

[phil13]

P.P.S.

This HAS to be done:

https://www.dasdc.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7288

Phil

[pseudopianist]

Hahahahahaha da legendery CG of da 88board.

a bit dry

[Kassaa]

P.P.S.

This HAS to be done:

https://www.dasdc.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7288

Phil

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[phil13]

Huh?

Wait, Kassaa, have you been banned from da SDC?

Phil

[jas]

P.P.S.

This HAS to be done:

https://www.dasdc.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7288

Phil

They mock people here...

hahahhaha da mephisto-brewtality posts r just genius!!!!!


da moonlight sonata composed by bach...a grumpy old man...HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA FUCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

... and yet the wit in this post just bowles me over.

ok, i will be the first to actually respond intelligently to this question of my favorite chopin song.

Well, at least you're responding intelligently somewhere...

those stupid f**kheads think a song = a piece. how ghey and noobish

Though it's an interesting point you make here.


That said, it is a bit annoying when people call works or pieces "songs".

Jas

PS. I haven't actually heard any of Chopin's songs. Does anyone have a recording they could upload?

[pseudopianist]

They mock people here...... and yet the wit in this post just bowles me over.

Well, at least you're responding intelligently somewhere...Though it's an interesting point you make here.


That said, it is a bit annoying when people call works or pieces "songs".

Jas

PS. I haven't actually heard any of Chopin's songs. Does anyone have a recording they could upload?

 

[jre58591]

Well, at least you're responding intelligently somewhere.

PS. I haven't actually heard any of Chopin's songs. Does anyone have a recording they could upload?

well, that wasnt needed. i was gonna upload all 17 songs, but because of that remark, youll just have to buy them.

[Kassaa]

Huh?

Wait, Kassaa, have you been banned from da SDC?

Phil

Yep, becaused I removed a link to da SDC from the wikipedia page about Berezovsky :') .

[nicco]

wow jre. you certainly are harsh on your fellow ps members.

[jas]

well, that wasnt needed. i was gonna upload all 17 songs, but because of that remark, youll just have to buy them.

Fair enough, I'm not that fussed about the songs. More curious, really. But unlike your comment, mine wasn't outright nasty, so taking offence and saying "that wasn't needed" is a little ironic.

Jas

[jspash]

wow! this is worse than listening to people argue over the correct use of the word 'ironic' 

[jas]

wow! this is worse than listening to people argue over the correct use of the word 'ironic' 

Who was arguing over that?

[phil13]

No one. He's just saying that this is worse than that.

Phil

[donjuan]

Well, at least you're responding intelligently somewhere...
Jas

PS. I haven't actually heard any of Chopin's songs. Does anyone have a recording they could upload?

well, that wasnt needed. i was gonna upload all 17 songs, but because of that remark, youll just have to buy them.

Fair enough, I'm not that fussed about the songs. More curious, really. But unlike your comment, mine wasn't outright nasty, so taking offence and saying "that wasn't needed" is a little ironic.

Jas

you just insulted him!  how the *** do you expect him to respond??  it's like

'youre stupid.  can you help me out?'

"well, I was going to help you, but now that you called me stupid, I dont wanna help you"

'ahhh youre mean'

[phil13]

I agree. Jre didn't insult you at all, Jas, but was rather making a comment about just how stupid the ignorant can sound.. Why the hostility?

Phil

[phil13]

Well, at least you're responding intelligently somewhere

I would like to point out, in support of my friend, that in all of Jre's 1200+ posts on Piano Street I have not once seen a post that wasn't intelligent. 

Phil

[jas]

I agree. Jre didn't insult you at all, Jas, but was rather making a comment about just how stupid the ignorant can sound.. Why the hostility?

I didn't intend any hostility at all; writing on a forum is a pretty expressionless way of communicating, so the "dryness" with which it was meant to come across evidently didn't show. I also didn't mean he was nasty towards me, I meant what he said about the people posting in the thread in general, and I'm pretty sure most people would agree that calling people f**kheads is pretty nasty. Neither did I call him stupid. Why the fuss?

I would like to point out, in support of my friend, that in all of Jre's 1200+ posts on Piano Street I have not once seen a post that wasn't intelligent.

I'm sure you're right, I haven't sifted through his entire output. That comment was meant for the sdc post and the sdc post alone.

Anyway, to (try to) keep the peace: I'm not going to apologise when I didn't mean any insult in the first place, especially when however nasty my post may have looked, jre's looked moreso. But I have nothing personal against anyone here, including jre (don't know anyone well enough), and I actually feel a bit bad about going on about his post when it was other people, not him, who for some reason decided to jump on my case about it. So, peace? Any takers?

[phil13]

I didn't intend any hostility at all; writing on a forum is a pretty expressionless way of communicating, so the "dryness" with which it was meant to come across evidently didn't show. I also didn't mean he was nasty towards me, I meant what he said about the people posting in the thread in general, and I'm pretty sure most people would agree that calling people f**kheads is pretty nasty. Neither did I call him stupid. Why the fuss?
I'm sure you're right, I haven't sifted through his entire output. That comment was meant for the sdc post and the sdc post alone.     

To be fair, though, da SDC isn't exactly the kind of forum where you hold back language... or thoughts, really.

Anyway, to (try to) keep the peace: I'm not going to apologise when I didn't mean any insult in the first place, especially when however nasty my post may have looked, jre's looked moreso. But I have nothing personal against anyone here, including jre (don't know anyone well enough), and I actually feel a bit bad about going on about his post when it was other people, not him, who for some reason decided to jump on my case about it. So, peace? Any takers?

I'll take it.

Ask him, though.

Phil