Whose Piano Sonatas are harder?

[immanueljoseph]

Dear all,

I am aware that Haydn's Piano Sonatas have been discriminated, compared to Mozart's Piano Sonatas & Beethoven's Piano Sonatas. However, I find that Haydn's Piano Sonatas are not so bad, you know. Especially in interpreting the articulations, phrasings, tempo, artistic musical expression, it's not as easy as what people think now about his Piano Sonatas. I'm learning the 1st movement of his C Major Piano Sonata (No. 50), and... WOW, it's so hard!

So, please give me some suggestions. Thank you.

Best regards,

Joseph

[desordre]

 Dear Immanuel:
 Thank you for this thread. I really agree with you: Haydn is very underrated. Sometimes I guess that people (pianists in particular) think something like: "Oh well... I have Mozart... I have Beethoven... Enough is enough..."    The music of Herr Franz have fabulous examples: the string quartets opus 20 n. 5, 33 nn. 2 & 5, 76 nn. 3, 77 nn. 1 & 2; symphonies (that's a very long list...) 6-8, 26, 44, 45, 49, 60, 82, 92, 96-104; some of his baryton trios; the concertos for cello; the great vocal works (The Creation, first of all; but also Missa in Angustiis, Cecilia Mass and other masses; Insanae et vanae curae). And, of course, his piano sonatas. My favorites are, according to Hob XVI: 20, 34, 36, 37, 48, 50, 51 & 52. And there are more piano music by him.
 I don't say that someone might love Haydn more than Mozart or Beethoven, but the music of the older master is plenty of marvelous surprises and moments of absolute beauty and genious. Oh! Don't forget that both Wolfie and Ludwig were indebt troughout their lifes with him. 
 Best wishes! Let's play and listen to more Haydn!

[mikey6]

Haydn's sonatas haven't been discriminated.  Mozart's get attacked coz they're generally not up to the level of his greatest output (except maybe amin, cmin, and last dmaj).  Even some of Beethoven's sonatas get 'less played' than others coz they're not his best works.

[gonzalo]

Dear all,

I am aware that Haydn's Piano Sonatas have been discriminated, compared to Mozart's Piano Sonatas & Beethoven's Piano Sonatas. However, I find that Haydn's Piano Sonatas are not so bad, you know. Especially in interpreting the articulations, phrasings, tempo, artistic musical expression, it's not as easy as what people think now about his Piano Sonatas. I'm learning the 1st movement of his C Major Piano Sonata (No. 50), and... WOW, it's so hard!

So, please give me some suggestions. Thank you.

Best regards,

Joseph

I like Haydn's sonatas. For making the piano sonata nº 50 easier and for exploring more Haydn sonatas I recommend you:

Hob.XVI nº 12
Hob.XVI nº 27
Hob.XVI nº 35
Hob.XVI nº 37

Those are the ones I like , and they are really not hard.

Take care,
Gonzalo