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Offline zheer

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« on: November 30, 2006, 10:02:42 PM »
  Am sorry nilsjohn can can you kindly explain why you constantly delete my threads , do you honestly believe this is the worlds greatest forum. I dont like being called a retared and if you are thinking of ethnically cleansing this forum, then you are going about it the right way.
   have a good day.
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Re: nilsjohn
«Reply #1 on: November 30, 2006, 10:41:56 PM »
I don't know if there is anything more to explain. I have been deleting two of your topics lately, one in October and one today which both contained inappropriate and offensive comments.  In both cases you were notified about the reasons for removal via PM.


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Re: nilsjohn
«Reply #2 on: November 30, 2006, 11:12:56 PM »
zheer..give it a rest! calm down....     why do you make such a big deal?   Don't post offensive things and you won't get deleted....

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«Reply #3 on: December 01, 2006, 03:48:06 AM »
Greetings.

I am with "Zheer" as Nils also has a tendency of expunging my posts from this forum. Heh, if Nils should be fair, he would subject many other members from having their posts remained, as most certainly they do not follow the said rules that Nils so dearly consecrates. What was it now- no insulting members over religion, politics, etc? Obviously Nils has been way too preocupied with deleting our posts then to check up on those threads, or at least warn posters such as Pianistimo against angering members, or someone else for incessantly starting arguments about religious topics presented. As if this forum isn't exactly up to "standart" already, given that the anything but piano room will soon take up 99 percent of all the forum, Nils finds pleasure in deleting posts elsewhere. I remember my conversation with "Ada" not too long ago. Yes, it was somewhat vapid, but not as jejune as some other posts seen around here, so shouldn't have been an impetus for Nil's wrath. Some 20 posts of mine were deleted. I personally believe that Nils is prejudiced against those with silver membership, as they provide no economic support for this "eleesymonary" forum, if that. (Who knows if it's sponsored by someone, it sure doesn't spare to propagate itself in the "Clavier" magazine)

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«Reply #4 on: December 01, 2006, 04:16:26 AM »
Hey Zheer, have you read "Always Running" by Louis Rodriguez? If not than give it a read. You will like it. :)

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«Reply #5 on: December 01, 2006, 11:51:42 AM »
Since so far only "zheer" and "debussy symbolism" have felt cause to complain to Nils and since their complaints relate exclusively to his apparent treatment of certain of their individual posts to this forum, it would seem to me to be rather more appropriate for any further discussion of this issue to me made in PMs between these two members and Nils; it seems clear to me that no other forum member can usefully do or say anything about this matter, which is why it appears inappropriate for it to be aired in a post for all forum members to read.

The above is not, however, intended to be read as a disagreement with the complaints and I wish to make it clear that I am in no position to comment on the validity or otherwise either of the complaints themselves or of Nils's actions in respect of certain of these two members' posts.

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«Reply #6 on: December 01, 2006, 05:07:43 PM »
Since so far only "zheer" and "debussy symbolism" have felt cause to complain to Nils and since their complaints relate exclusively to his apparent treatment of certain of their individual posts to this forum, it would seem to me to be rather more appropriate for any further discussion of this issue to me made in PMs between these two members and Nils; it seems clear to me that no other forum member can usefully do or say anything about this matter, which is why it appears inappropriate for it to be aired in a post for all forum members to read.

The above is not, however, intended to be read as a disagreement with the complaints and I wish to make it clear that I am in no position to comment on the validity or otherwise either of the complaints themselves or of Nils's actions in respect of certain of these two members' posts.

Best,

Alistair

To the extent of my knowledge, and if I am wrong please correct me, writing serves a main purpose: to deliver the truth, and by truth I of course mean apparent truth or a preconcieved truth. Should we be involving this talk with private messages, surely my text here is going to lose practically all it's meaning, with Nils free to ignore our posts and complaints at will. Should our texts be available here though, it would make a much larger impact on those that also might not approve of certain actions of Nils, and as this forum depends on money from "gold membership," those that are in discord will cease their forum visitation, and thus disbanding the forum.

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«Reply #7 on: December 01, 2006, 06:56:23 PM »
Debussy!    Please let it go!    My gosh...don't you think it is time!     This is a private website that is allowing the public to use it. If anyone doesn't like the way it is run, then they don't have to use it.

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Re: nilsjohn
«Reply #8 on: December 01, 2006, 07:26:49 PM »
I think nils has always been a very just and reasonable moderator.

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«Reply #9 on: December 01, 2006, 08:46:16 PM »
I think nils has always been a very just and reasonable moderator.

yes..I think we should thank Nils for taking the time to deal with all this.     so thanks Nils for a great website.

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Re: nilsjohn
«Reply #10 on: December 01, 2006, 09:53:33 PM »
yes..I think we should thank Nils for taking the time to deal with all this.     so thanks Nils for a great website.

agreed. and debussy symbolism\zheer should realize how stupid they look when always bitchin about how they cant write whatever they want. yes we all feel very sorry for you guys. tough luck.
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«Reply #11 on: December 01, 2006, 11:14:14 PM »
agreed. and debussy symbolism\zheer should realize how stupid they look when always bitchin about how they cant write whatever they want. yes we all feel very sorry for you guys. tough luck.

I am not whining about how I can't write what I want, I am whining(what a bad word) about how Nils can wipe out whatever he wants. There is a big difference.

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Re: nilsjohn
«Reply #12 on: December 01, 2006, 11:58:20 PM »
Greetings.

I personally believe that Nils is prejudiced against those with silver membership

Astounding thing to say and i think you are completely wrong.

It is his forum, he owns the place, he can do what he wants and he doesn't even have to justify his actions, although he has done on several occasions in the past.

I get a lot of enjoyment from this place for no cost at all, for which i am grateful.

Why can't you be?

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«Reply #13 on: December 02, 2006, 12:02:01 AM »
I am not whining about how I can't write what I want, I am whining(what a bad word) about how Nils can wipe out whatever he wants. There is a big difference.
At least you admit that you are whining (not that anyone else here need you to remind them of this, of course), so we can at least accept your honesty, for once; as I have, however, already counselled you (though why I wasted my time in so doing remains uncertain), if you have a disagreement with Nils, address it personally and privately to Nils and, if you cannot resolve it via this means, then decide for yourself whether or not you wish to remain a member of this forum and act accordingly one way of the other, rather than attempting to display to all other members what a big noise you can't actually make...

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«Reply #14 on: December 02, 2006, 12:04:31 AM »
Astounding thing to say and i think you are completely wrong.
Agreed.

It is his forum, he owns the place, he can do what he wants and he doesn't even have to justify his actions, although he has done on several occasions in the past.
Agreed again.

I get a lot of enjoyment from this place for no cost at all, for which i am grateful.
Moi aussi.

Why can't you be?
Why can't you stop yourself from asking impossibly difficult questions of those whom you surely realise in advance cannot possibly hope to be able to answer them?

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«Reply #15 on: December 02, 2006, 12:13:11 AM »
As I dearly hope to not bring out anger out of anyone any more, I will again admit that perhaps I have been ranting on too much and will let it go. That does not in any way imply that I agree with everything said here, but due to a certain rising in anger here, will permit some rest.


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Re: nilsjohn
«Reply #16 on: December 02, 2006, 12:46:55 AM »
Astounding thing to say and i think you are completely wrong.

It is his forum, he owns the place, he can do what he wants and he doesn't even have to justify his actions, although he has done on several occasions in the past.

I get a lot of enjoyment from this place for no cost at all, for which i am grateful.

Why can't you be?

Thal

totally agree! good post thal




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Re: nilsjohn
«Reply #17 on: December 02, 2006, 04:31:20 PM »
I once did research about the information that newspapers have access to - compared to the information they choose to publish.   There is a huge amount of data that does not get published.  For example, information from Africa, most of Asia, and South America, is usually ignored.
I live in Canada.  I read a headline in our local newspaper some time ago that was in large bold letters about a few dozen people who died in a Florida hurricane.  That same week, 150,000 were killed and millions made homeless in floods in Bangladesh.  The paper discussed this item on page six using small capital letters for a headline.

I watched TV for almost a year and listened to George Bush tell me that weapons of mass destruction were about to destroy me unless Saddam was put in his place.  Newspapers had editorials about how good it was to consider taking out this butcher of Baghdad. 

Most media is owned by private interests.  There is no way to discern if you are really getting the whole truth, lies, or just part of the truth. 

One example is the US media and how they have traditionally portrayed China.   I have been to China.  Things that stick in my mind were never mentioned by the press.   I saw a healthy population, few overweight, a successful economy, many people who were proud of their nation, and little crime.... at least compared to the crime and terrible dirt I have seen in major Western cities.  The point is not that China is great or terrible.  The point is that information and access to information is VERY controlled in America and its neignbours.  I realize there is government control in Chna.   I do not see it as so different from the West as you might imagine.

SO...... when I see people complaining about this site and that information is controlled here....... I think the complainers are losing the forest for the trees.  The owner of this site .... in my opinion seems to have a sense of good taste and if he wants to limit a few posts it is of no consequence. 

If you think Americans are free perhaps you had better travel the world and see how others really live and think about you.   You may find that Americans are NOT percieved as being either free or free thinking.  There is much more to discuss here.  I think Nils is a very patient gentleman for letting this freedom to post nonsense to continue under the guise of a false intellectualism by several posters 8)

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Re: nilsjohn
«Reply #18 on: December 02, 2006, 05:10:59 PM »
I live in Canada.  I read a headline in our local newspaper some time ago that was in large bold letters about a few dozen people who died in a Florida hurricane.  That same week, 150,000 were killed and millions made homeless in floods in Bangladesh.  The paper discussed this item on page six using small capital letters for a headline.


It's so true what you write. The information wie do not get is often so much more important than the information we get!


But I think, the case in this thread is about aggressive and offensive posts, where there is no connection to the word "information" in any sense, which the moderator of the forum deleted. He has my full sympathy for doing so.
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«Reply #19 on: December 02, 2006, 05:58:13 PM »
To counterpoint..... we seem to agree.  Only semantics if information is to be seen as pure data or 'offensive posts' or both.    I really appreciate this site.  I like the music.  Most discussions are of benefit to me and I have learned from others here, especially regarding views on music.   It has been revealing to read what other musicians have to say.  I would agree that this site should limit anything unkind or too 'pushy'. 
Thanks counterpoint.
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Re: nilsjohn
«Reply #20 on: December 06, 2006, 10:19:50 PM »
There is no way to discern if you are really getting the whole truth, lies, or just part of the truth. 

The point is not that China is great or terrible.  The point is that information and access to nformation is VERY controlled in America and its neignbours.  I realize there is government control in Chna.   I do not see it as so different from the West as you might imagine.


I can't speak for America, nor for China as I live in the "old" world in England.  I think that we have a fairly free press here (some might say too free), but at least one thing that the US and here in the Uk have in common is free access to inforamtion services like this (an internet based site), which will be unavailable/censored etc in other countries, like the communist or religious totalitarian states.  Great to disagree if one is allowed  :D
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Re: nilsjohn
«Reply #21 on: April 29, 2007, 11:48:18 PM »
Greetings.

 I personally believe that Nils is prejudiced against those with silver membership, as they provide no economic support for this "eleesymonary" forum, if that. (Who knows if it's sponsored by someone, it sure doesn't spare to propagate itself in the "Clavier" magazine)

Best.

EXCUSE ME!!!  The word is "eleemosynary."  (That word is reserved for smart people)