SDC Lingo Problem

[shortyshort]

I can understand that some kids today want to speak in this funny way, but can they not post in it. I'm sure that the people concerned have something useful to say, but it takes me ages to work it out. God knows how people from other countries manage.

I think you'll find that most people don't even bother trying to decipher it, so you're wasting your time.

Shorty

[nicco]

I can understand that some kids today want to speak in this funny way, but can they not post in it. I'm sure that the people concerned have something useful to say, but it takes me ages to work it out. God knows how people from other countries manage.

I think you'll find that most people don't even bother trying to decipher it, so you're wasting your time.

Shorty

Its not that hard really. Just replace all the s's with z's, and throw in some random words like "sheet" in the sentences and voila.

[soliloquy]

I can understand that some kids today want to speak in this funny way, but can they not post in it. I'm sure that the people concerned have something useful to say, but it takes me ages to work it out. God knows how people from other countries manage.

I think you'll find that most people don't even bother trying to decipher it, so you're wasting your time.

Shorty

me can undahztand dat zum kidz today wunt to speak in this CG vey, but cud dey not pozt in it?  I is zure dat da mofoz conzerned haff zumthin uzeful to zay, but it takez me agez to wurk it out.  DA DOC noze how peepz frum othah cuntriez manage

[opus10no2]

wasting your time.

Da takes less time to type than The.

Using SDC Lingo makes the average person appear much more intelligent and sensible, for the simple fact that they realize typing in standard english is inefficient by comparison.

[steve jones]

Well I think its hysterical. For those who would think that pianists are all stuffy, boring pricks with no sense of humour, I give you DASDC!

I remember when I first went there, I was thinking 'Omg, you cant call Argerich that!!!' 

BB

[jre58591]

all of you who think da sdc is offensive and sheet like that need to lighten up. its all in good fun.

[shortyshort]

I'm not offended in any way by it. I just can't understand it, and I don't see any real reason to use it.

Using SDC Lingo makes the average person appear much more intelligent and sensible, for the simple fact that they realize typing in standard english is inefficient by comparison.

Bollocks.


Shorty

[jre58591]

i see sdc lingo as just an extended form of slang, just as you brits have your own slang, with your bollocks and all. i cant understand a da.mn thing you guys say sometimes. so, hah.

[shortyshort]

lol

[steve jones]

i see sdc lingo as just an extended form of slang, just as you brits have your own slang, with your bollocks and all. i cant understand a da.mn thing you guys say sometimes. so, hah.

Betty Swollocks to that!

If you can grasp da SDC lingo, then the regional dialects of the mother land should be no problem! So long as you stay aware from Liverpool...

SJ

[opus10no2]

I'm not offended in any way by it. I just can't understand it, and I don't see any real reason to use it.
 Bollocks.


Shorty

Swingin low.

[imbetter]

dun this da SDC pregnant cat. i is fond o da SDc true

me can undahztand dat zum kidz today wunt to speak in this CG vey, but cud dey not pozt in it?  I is zure dat da mofoz conzerned haff zumthin uzeful to zay, but it takez me agez to wurk it out.  DA DOC noze how peepz frum othah cuntriez manage

ahahahahaha respect

[jre58591]

youre just an sdc noob. if you were really fond of it, youd have some CG posts on there.

[debussy symbolism]

Using SDC Lingo makes the average person appear much more intelligent and sensible, for the simple fact that they realize typing in standard english is inefficient by comparison.

Oh it makes one look more intelligent alright... Naturally I would rather read something that I could decipher with less energy, unless of course I am reading a code. If it takes me more time to figure out the message the message is therefore not intelligent, as it contradicts the idea of speech being a clear and effective source of communication.

What exactly is "Da Shreddah"?

And what is "CG"?

this lingo is very gonfuzing at first, but it is relatively eazy to get uzed to it and it is definately ze most funny and zlightly zilly way of gommunicating. I am however aware dat this kind of lingo is prohibited in this forum and dat many uzers get banned because of uzing it.

[pita bread]

I just can't understand it

That's your problem.

I remember when I first went there, I was thinking 'Omg, you cant call Argerich that!!!' 

Oh yes you can.

[dnephi]

"Its not that hard really. Just replace all the s's with z's, and throw in some random words like "sheet" in the sentences and voila."
Harzhly untru :whale: :girth: :girth:

Da Nicco randomly dun wan tech advice from KOJI. 

Bezidez, you kan't even zpell "Respect" in SDC.
true, this mildly a bit genius to become a true SDCian.

[dnephi]

"me can undahztand dat zum kidz today wunt to speak in this CG vey, but cud dey not pozt in it?  I is zure dat da mofoz conzerned haff zumthin uzeful to zay, but it takez me agez to wurk it out.  DA DOC noze how peepz frum othah cuntriez manage "

You mildly forget dat dere is a god...
the true god!

[debussy symbolism]

And who might dat be? If it in vact is da true God, den I zhould be able to regognize da face izn't dat true? Da words like "sheet" might be just a little offenzife and many memberz do not like to zee theze ginds of words and might be inzulted.

[shoenberg3]

And who might dat be? If it in vact is da true God, den I zhould be able to regognize da face izn't dat true? Da words like "sheet" might be just a little offenzife and many memberz do not like to zee theze ginds of words and might be inzulted.

weak

[opus10no2]

Oh it makes one look more intelligent alright... Naturally I would rather read something that I could decipher with less energy, unless of course I am reading a code. If it takes me more time to figure out the message the message is therefore not intelligent, as it contradicts the idea of speech being a clear and effective source of communication.

Somehow I find it quicker to write AND read than traditional english.

So this only reveals both your lack of SPEED and familiarity with the lingo in question.

It's also a much more fun and loose way of talking, and it just SOUNDS better, although this is only my own subjective opinion.
The raw SPEED element is objective, and fact.

[dnephi]

The admin removed my "true god" emoticon from the SDC. I am disappointed.

That's why you didn't understand it.

[pianolearner]

I can understand that some kids today want to speak in this funny way, but can they not post in it. I'm sure that the people concerned have something useful to say, but it takes me ages to work it out. God knows how people from other countries manage.

I think you'll find that most people don't even bother trying to decipher it, so you're wasting your time.

Shorty

There isn't a doubt in my mind that there are people using the "lingo" and don't know that it is a lingo. You should read some of the e-mails I get from my supervisor at work...and they are sent to senior managers 

[steinwaymodeld]

And who might dat be? If it in vact is da true God, den I zhould be able to regognize da face izn't dat true? Da words like "sheet" might be just a little offenzife and many memberz do not like to zee theze ginds of words and might be inzulted.

u is juzt too zheeeeyat to zee da true face ov the true god possibly 

by da way, ur name in SDC lingo is 'Depuzzy Zymbolizm', and rightly zo i might add 

actually, i think it's a retreat for people who found places like this a bit too critical and hypocritical (i.e. claiming "PS is the best piano forum there is.", there is as much truth to this statement as "G.W. Bush is the best president there is."), that's why i quit this forum and pianoworld. 
As Brendan put it, 'SDC is where smart people pretend to be stupid, where in Pianostreet and Pianoforum, the stupid people are pretending to be smart.'

Anyway, i have long thinking about giving a small translation table to the SDC lingo.

Basically, SDC lingo is derived from ganstarap, hiphop and inspired partly by the show Ali-G (Where the host, Sacha Cohen talk in West-side gangsta rap vaguely)
And just like hiphop, it's relatively easy and phonic-related, for eg:

'da' = 'the'
'tym' = 'time'
'ov' = 'of'
'kan' = 'can'
'hu' = 'who'
'wut' = 'what'
'y' = 'why'
'this' = 'this'
'with' = 'with'
'cunzidah' = 'consider' (notice the suffix usage of 'der' with 'dah' 'ah' usually substitue the 'er')
so on and so forth

somtimes, the letters are so readily replaced with the phonically-closed letter, it's being substitued altogether

'z' replacing 's'
'k' replacing 'c' ('predicktable' = 'predictable')
'u' sometimes replacing 'o'

several words hold special importance as it appears so often
'sheeeeyyaaattttt' = 'shxt'   (the number of 's''h''e''y''a''t' might varies to imitate the length of the wording)
'*' = '***'
'pregnant cat' = (any generalized male character, 'mofonezz' as in how awesome something is, for eg, 'hahahahah da mofonezz ov this rec')(a very 'mofoish' 'pregnant cat' is usually called 'a legend')
'biatch' = (any generalized female character)
'genius' = 'genius' or 'geniusness' (for eg, 'this rec ov da HO is genius!!!!!') (explaination of the HO will come later)
'possibly' = 'possibly' (usually use in case to be a bit reserving when stating something, for eg 'HO is da bezt pianist ov da 88 hiztory, possibly')
and adding the symbol  means something in a half-jokingly, sdc-fashion, chilling-style of SDC conversation.

Musical terms:
in SDC, 3 elements of aspect of music are being praised: Fury, Speed and CG (Comedic Genius/comedic genius) (for example, the Barere's recording of chopin waltz 34/2 is respected for the sheer speed, Cziffra's HR6/live totentanz for the FURY, and G.D. Madge's godowsky chopin etude or John Rusnak Chopin etudes recording for the obvious comedic geniusness)
anything other than that, for eg, phrasing or musicality, sophistication is generalized as 'moizture' or simply 'moizt'. for eg, "Depuzzy'z muzik is pure moizt.", expect it's something truly outstanding, for example, Gilels' live Chopin nocturne Op.48 No.1, or Michelangeli's Mozart 20th Concerto 2nd mvt, usually 'moizt' are generally consider bad and would be disregarded.

'zon' = 'Sonata'
'conc' 'con' = 'concerto'
'88' = 'piano' (for there are 88keys usually)
'chopet' = 'chopin etude' (as it holds such importance for SDC ritual, it's basically the ben chmark of the 'mofonezz' of a pianist)
'pimpet' = 'liszt etudes'  (usually the Transcedental etudes, 'paget' as the paganini etudes)
'rocket' = 'rachmaninoff etude tableux' (i love this term)
'prel' = 'prelude'

composers name:
bach and hadyn has no special name (because they are usually of no interest)
'zart' = 'mozart'
'*' = 'brotha' = 'beethoven' (varies from the firstname 'ludwig', and because of his legendary statue, as being one of the greatest composer, and '*' is a complimentary-term in sdc-lingo)
'Kan' = 'Alkan'
'Chop' = 'Chopin'
'Pimp' = 'Liszt' (because liszt is a lady's man, and his paraphrase of don juan, and the american modern day pimp, don 'magic' juan)
'Scrib' = 'Scriabin'
'Rock' = 'Rachmaninoff' (phonically)
'Prick' = 'Prokofiev' (just because it looks alike)
'mezz' = 'messiaen'

Some important SDC composition:
'Hammerclevage' = 'Hammerklavier'
'pimpzon' = 'liszt sonata'
'GazFart' = 'Gaspard de la nuit'
'izlamic bombah' = 'islamey'
'Campy' = 'La Campanella'
'FF' = 'Feux Follet'
'Zepp' = 'Mazeppa'  (Also the name of one of the founding member)
'le fiztin' = 'le festin d'escope'
'brahpaget' = 'Brahms variation on theme of Paganini OP.35, bk1 and 2' (we are well awared that this work is not etude, but the length and evenly allocated variation are might just as well be one.)

pianists:
'HO' = 'Horowitz'
'Rectum' = 'Richter'
'Bendovah'/'Brendull' = 'Brendel' (he is usually consider the worst famous pianist)
'Orgy' = 'Argerich'
'Ziff' = 'Cziffra'
'Shrimp' = 'Yundi Li' (the most what name IMO, there is a story behind it i think, but i will just take it that he looks like a shrimp, and with shrimp-legs like fingering)
'Dongah' = 'Lang Lang' (From 'lang lang' pronouces like 'long long', and then 'long dong', to 'dong dong', to simply 'dongah')
'Bear' = 'Berman' (name similarity and the obvious physical status)
'Vol' = 'Volodos'
'Hog' = 'Fiorentino' (i need to consult zepp about this)
'Barcudda' = 'Gilels' (from 'gilels' to 'gil' to 'barcudda' (because barcudda is the most furious fish, and fish has gils, LOL, created by comme)
'Old-dong' or 'O-Dong' for (ogdon, phonically)
'Doc' = 'Marc Andre Hamelin' (because 'andre' to 'dre', and 'Dr. Dre', thus 'Dr.' and 'Doc')
'Genie' = 'Kissin' (evgeny, 'geny', 'genie')
'G-man' = 'Glenn Gould'
'Duch'/'Duchbag' = 'Duchable'
'Whale' = 'Berezovsky' (because, in the La Roque d'Antheron piano festival, where Berezovsky played all TEs, and aspired awful lot. So he was called the 'spermwhale' for secreting vast amount of body liquid, and then it was shortformed into 'whale')
'Lib' = 'Libetta'
'ashtray' = 'ashkenazy'
'zimmerfram' or 'zim' = 'zimerman'
'da Wood' or 'Dr. Wood' = 'Koji Attwood'
'MT' = 'Mei Ting Sun'
'Clitburnah' 'Clit' = 'Van Cliburn'
'da Sock' = 'Grigory SOkolov'
'Gav'  = 'Andrei Gavrilov'
'Lugy' = 'Nikolai Lugansky'
'Rudy' = 'Vadim Rudenko'
'Zpidah'/'Bleach' = 'Rafal Blechacz' (for having spider-legs like fingers)
'Pollen' = 'Pollini'

and when newcomers appears, SDC member tirelessly give them accurate alias
'true god' = 'ingulf wunder' (for similar sound in 'gulf' and 'god', and 'wonder', and obviously his inhuman dexerity displayed in chopin etudes during chopin competition)
'kobra' = 'Alexander Kobrin'


In the end, i think SDC is just all fun, and there are alot of intelligent people lurking there, just trying to share a piece of their mind with people who are not easily offened (those people won't be in SDC).
But for people who can't take a joke and think they had a very rightous mind and concept of morality, stay out of this place.

and yea, in case u don't know
www.dasdc.net

hope it helps,

Embassador of diplomatic and external affair,
            da SteinwayModelD

P.S. BTW, i am asian (azn), English is my 2nd language, but i got no problem understanding SDC-lingo as u see.

[gruffalo]

And who might dat be? If it in vact is da true God, den I zhould be able to regognize da face izn't dat true? Da words like "sheet" might be just a little offenzife and many memberz do not like to zee theze ginds of words and might be inzulted.

if you cant recognise that face, then da SDC is not your only problem in life.

[gruffalo]

).
But for people who can't take a joke and think they had a very rightous mind and concept of morality, stay out of this place.

 i haff still been able to zuztain mah morals and obedience to mah religion whilst bein at dasdc. so this not true dat you will become a bad man in dasdc.

[steinwaymodeld]

i haff still been able to zuztain mah morals and obedience to mah religion whilst bein at dasdc. so this not true dat you will become a bad man in dasdc.

truly 

but i is juzt tryin to gif a fair warnin, u kno~

[krittyot]

hahahahahahahahaha.....jeff, ur post is abit legendary. 

Okie, let moi tezt whethah membahz here is ready for da SDC. juzt apply knowledge from da jeff pozt.

1. Coldfart = ?
2. Goldcock = ?
3. Bullet = ?
4. Bar = ?

iv u anzwah all korrectly, welcum to da SDC.

[debussy symbolism]

Somehow I find it quicker to write AND read than traditional english.

So this only reveals both your lack of SPEED and familiarity with the lingo in question.

It's also a much more fun and loose way of talking, and it just SOUNDS better, although this is only my own subjective opinion.
The raw SPEED element is objective, and fact.

Well given that you probably spend most of your non-piano street time there I wouldn't be surprised if Da SDC lingo was easier for you to communicate with. I do understand the lingo, I would just rather prefer reading in normal English. I can see why it would be deemed as a funner and looser way of talking.

Oh and thanks for clarifying to me some of the terms of Da SDC.

[soliloquy]

hahahahahahahahaha.....jeff, ur post is abit legendary. 

Okie, let moi tezt whethah membahz here is ready for da SDC. juzt apply knowledge from da jeff pozt.

1. Coldfart = ?
2. Goldcock = ?
3. Bullet = ?
4. Bar = ?

iv u anzwah all korrectly, welcum to da SDC.

ahahahaaahaaha dayum i haz mo poztz/topicz in da JACKSON forum dan da jackson hizzelf n I only no da bullet=bolet.  Coldfart zoundz familiah but da othah 2 muzt be new?

Randomly we need a nick fo Entremont.


N jeff, izn't Berman da LAZAHBEAM, az per "Lazar Berman"?  N den Pierre Boulez is da BEAR?  fuckkkk i is mildly confuzed 8(

[steinwaymodeld]

ahahahaaahaaha dayum i haz mo poztz/topicz in da JACKSON forum dan da jackson hizzelf n I only no da bullet=bolet.  Coldfart zoundz familiah but da othah 2 muzt be new?

Randomly we need a nick fo Entremont.


N jeff, izn't Berman da LAZAHBEAM, az per "Lazar Berman"?  N den Pierre Boulez is da BEAR?  fuckkkk i is mildly confuzed 8(

hhahahah hint to da Kritt pozt

firzt 2 were 88 kompo
und da latter 2 were pieniztz

btw, da Bear is offically da Berman, or 'LazerBear' for full name
Az far az i is concerned, i dunno derer is a SDC aliaz fo Boulez.

[soliloquy]

hhahahah hint to da Kritt pozt

firzt 2 were 88 kompo
und da latter 2 were pieniztz

btw, da Bear is offically da Berman, or 'LazerBear' for full name
Az far az i is concerned, i dunno derer is a SDC aliaz fo Boulez.

ahhhh zo much haz changed


Bullet=Bolet
Coldfart=Winter Wind Etude
Goldcock=Goldberg Variations
Bar=dat ugly azn tall pregnant cat

[opus10no2]

are they like those excercises for the pelvic floor muscles?

[pseudopianist]

What exactly is "Da Shreddah"?

this me


but sum argue dat da shreddah is atleast 1000 yearz old n possibly transcendental

[steinwaymodeld]

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH

THE MONARCHY of this forum is just a little bit too CG and overbearing!
I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU CENSORED THE WORD 'i z'!!!

HAHAHAHAHA, what are u, u think u are the reincarnation of a 18th century chinese emperor?
Man, or you are just a 14 years old girl who cry and yell behind the computer screen when something doesn't go your way?
You open up a forum, then you should have the courtesy to let people express themselves as long as it doesn't directly offend anyone.

What u gonna do next? U gonna send out thought-police after me just because I use a word that isn't to your liking, which doesn't even infer any vulgarity or offensive meaning?
Ever consider applying for a job in the media-control department in China? You will make an excellent prosecuter.
Shame on you, whoever did the censorship.

DOWN WITH THE BIG BROTHER!!!!

[pseudopianist]

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH

THE MONARCHY of this forum is just a little bit too CG and overbearing!
I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU CENSORED THE WORD 'i z'!!!

HAHAHAHAHA, what are u, u think u are the reincarnation of a 18th century chinese emperor?
Man, or you are just a 14 years old girl who cry and yell behind the computer screen when something doesn't go your way?
You open up a forum, then you should have the courtesy to let people express themselves as long as it doesn't directly offend anyone.

What u gonna do next? U gonna send out thought-police after me just because I use a word that isn't to your liking, which doesn't even infer any vulgarity or offensive meaning?
Ever consider applying for a job in the media-control department in China? You will make an excellent prosecuter.
Shame on you, whoever did the censorship.

DOWN WITH THE BIG BROTHER!!!!

[ahinton]

I used to think that "CG" on a piano forum might indicate "Chopin/Godowsky" - or even "Carlo Grante" (the only pianist in history ever to have recorded the entire cycle of studies twice); I have to add that such as I have encountered of "SDC lingo" fails to persuade me to want to think otherwise...

"Whisky and Messiaen"? I know that the French are supposed far to prefer the Scots to the English (let the widsom of the French be praised!), but I think this may just be taking that entente rather too cordially far - and, in any case, whatever kind of "cordial" would the mix of Whisky and Messiaen" be and in what kinds of proportion should it be mixed? (and shaken, not bird, presumably...)

Best,

Alistair

[quantum]

the censorship here is getting a bit out of hand

since when were variants of the words "genius" and "is" offensive? 

This type of censorship is actually making pianostreet harder to read.  Pianostreet is creating a lingo of its own by replacing common non-offensive words with * (isn't that against pianostreet rules for clarity of language?)

[thalbergmad]

since when were variants of the words "genius" and "is" offensive? 

Not offensive, just bad English and after a while rather boring.

I doubt if there are many people here who are not aware of dasdc. If you want to talk like a retard, brag about the size of your privates and convince others you are a great pianist, that is the place to go.

I admit to visiting the place myself and i do enjoy it, but i do not see the need for 2 sites with the same lingo.

Thal

[opus10no2]

'Gen-sui' has it's origins in japanese culture, it's a more profound and spiritual form of 'genius'.

I think it's offensive to denounce a language as boring, but saying that, I do find some dialects of Nepalese to be unpleasant to the ears.

[debussy symbolism]

'Gen-sui' has it's origins in japanese culture, it's a more profound and spiritual form of 'genius'.

I think it's offensive to denounce a language as boring, but saying that, I do find some dialects of Nepalese to be unpleasant to the ears.

I thought that that word denoting "genius" would be of Japanese origin.

[gruffalo]

and convince others you are a great pianist.

actually, there are a handful of amazing pianists in dasdc. and im not talking simply about the ones who can play fast etc, but actually quality pianists. more than here. here is where people try too hard to make themselves out to be amazing pianists.

also, in this forum one is on a higher level (gold membership) or gains advantage over others by paying for it. in  da SDC, to be respected, you have to either upload rare recordings or be a genuinly decent pianist. that sounds like a better form of gaining respect for one's self and others.

there are a few great pianists here on this forum (ones who actually put stuff in the audition room and have more than 200 posts), but not as many as on da SDC. check out our "SDC membaz and recs" section once in a while:

https://www.dasdc.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=3

[shortyshort]

actually, there are a handful of amazing pianists in dasdc. and im not talking simply about the ones who can play fast etc, but actually quality pianists. more than here. here is where people try too hard to make themselves out to be amazing pianists.

also, in this forum one is on a higher level (gold membership) or gains advantage over others by paying for it. in  da SDC, to be respected, you have to either upload rare recordings or be a genuinly decent pianist. that sounds like a better form of gaining respect for one's self and others.

there are a few great pianists here on this forum (ones who actually put stuff in the audition room and have more than 200 posts), but not as many as on da SDC. check out our "SDC membaz and recs" section once in a while

Why do you bother coming here then

[gruffalo]

for the same reason as some of the people from here who go to da SDC. for CG. and the odd and very rare decent conversation and for the minority of the people here that i actually find interesting.

[gruffalo]

and i also hang around in hope of this forum climbing back to the higher standard and quality it was before. i also just realised that finding this post in da SDC forum has led me back to the "anything but piano" section for the first time in ages. and i hardly post in this forum anymore now.

[shortyshort]

and i also hang around in hope of this forum climbing back to the higher standard and quality it was before. i also just realised that finding this post in da SDC forum has led me back to the "anything but piano" section for the first time in ages. and i hardly post in this forum anymore now.

Don't know how it got there 

At least you post in English 

[gruffalo]

Don't know how it got there 

At least you post in English 

oh, yea the link was put up there for more CG  i chose to write whats more appropriate for different environments. i dont find it fun or necessary to practise the lingo here because hardly anyone else does. if im in a serious discussion on da SDC i will type like this. but i think the association of different pianists to these different names is great.

[ada]

I find it astonishing that Nils would consider censoring SDC lingo out of PF.

As he himself suggests, it's as much about keeping SDC culture out of PF as it is getting rid of what can be irritating weazel words.

But I don't think the internet is something that can be regulated. It tends to have a life of its own beyond the reach of conventional control mechanisms, which is one of the most interesting things about it. To think you can keep a particular language or culture out is, well, unrealistic.

I suspect banning SDC lingo and culture from PF will only be counter-productive, just like banning the Australian flag turned out to be down under, but that's another story.

As I've noted before there's no doubt da SDC is testosterone fuelled, juvenile, offensive and misogynist. But it's also highly irreverent and more than a little bit post-ironic.

This isn't so different to what the Dadaists (one of the most important creative and intellectual/anti-intellectual movements ever) were doing almost 100 years ago when they deliberately set out to provoke and outrage and challenge boundaries, and it's also why I am a quiet fan of da SDC.

I also recall not so long ago that PF was innundated with biblical quotes, preaching and creationist propaganda. This stuff was no less offensive than SDC lingo but there was never any suggestion that  biblical spamming be banned from the forum to protect the PF "culture".

If you take this into account the move to erase SDC lingo seems just a little hypocritical.

[dabbler]

ada, isn't it a tiny bit too daunting to compare some slang postings with the dadaist movement? Actually, I'm quite happy that most posts here are still in plain English. For non-native speakers (like me) it's hard enough anyway, and learning the most recent slang is even more difficult without direct, spoken contact to the people. Honestly, I don't understand most of these posts, which is a pity. Personally, I'd always prefer to keep discussions as accessible as possible to all interested folks - after all, they may have something interesting to contribute (well, maybe not me, but you get the point... ). As an aside (which may not be too relevant for a piano forum but for many other mailing lists), many people with seeing disabilities have to rely on text-to-speech software, which obviously doesn't work with slang. And finally, regarding the social aspect of subculture language, piano geekery is cool enough, so there's no real need for syntactic sugar (or rather, to us foreigners, chili pepper), no? Well, everything else aside, not being able to read all posts will distract me less from writing my thesis, which may not be the worst thing...

[gruffalo]

I find it astonishing that Nils would consider censoring SDC lingo out of PF.

As he himself suggests, it's as much about keeping SDC culture out of PF as it is getting rid of what can be irritating weazel words.

But I don't think the internet is something that can be regulated. It tends to have a life of its own beyond the reach of conventional control mechanisms, which is one of the most interesting things about it. To think you can keep a particular language or culture out is, well, unrealistic.

I suspect banning SDC lingo and culture from PF will only be counter-productive, just like banning the Australian flag turned out to be down under, but that's another story.

As I've noted before there's no doubt da SDC is testosterone fuelled, juvenile, offensive and misogynist. But it's also highly irreverent and more than a little bit post-ironic.

This isn't so different to what the Dadaists (one of the most important creative and intellectual/anti-intellectual movements ever) were doing almost 100 years ago when they deliberately set out to provoke and outrage and challenge boundaries, and it's also why I am a quiet fan of da SDC.

I also recall not so long ago that PF was innundated with biblical quotes, preaching and creationist propaganda. This stuff was no less offensive than SDC lingo but there was never any suggestion that  biblical spamming be banned from the forum to protect the PF "culture".

If you take this into account the move to erase SDC lingo seems just a little hypocritical.

well said in general.

"As I've noted before there's no doubt da SDC is testosterone fuelled, juvenile, offensive and misogynist."

The main reason why da SDC is like this is because we dont want to attract people to this forum. yea, sure there are a few people who really are like this, but its mostly just an image so that the people who do really come to da SDC either get roped into that side of stuff, or are able to just brush it off or carry on the joke. therefore resulting in a selective bunch of either crazy or intelligent people (mainly the latter) in the forum. not one person has ever posted here in a serious manner "come to da SDC, we want you here". no, people will join when they are ready to join, and when they do they will be right for the forum.

[gruffalo]

and learning the most recent slang is even more difficult without direct, spoken contact to the people. Honestly, I don't understand most of these posts, which is a pity. Personally, I'd always prefer to keep discussions as accessible as possible to all interested folks

the problem is, most of the people who try to speak intelligently here with big fancy words and long stringed sentences, end up just waffling all the time (the names don't need mentioning). there are people here who i consistently cannot avoid just scrolling threw the whole of their posts because i know its just full of rubbish, either in terms of vocabulary or just general rabble. so who would you rather read, someone who posts mainly sense but in a funny lingo, or someone who tries to make themselves sound like a Professor but ends up making barely any sense and no contribution whatever to your life or the subject of the piano?