prehistoric shark found in japan depths.

[rebby]

i was watching the news and this story came up so i searched in on the internet, so here take a look. . . .


ftp://https://www.ebaumsworld.com/2007/01/prehistoric-shark.html

[rebby]

woops i guess i don't know how to make a link then, oh well you will have to just type the address in, if some one knows how to make it go blue so you can just click on it and go to the screen, then could some one then redo my address please, thank you.

[shortyshort]

https://www.ebaumsworld.com/2007/01/prehistoric-shark.html

very interesting, but i doubt very much that it's real

Shorty

[rebby]

oh well it looks cool.

[thalbergmad]

Wow, prehistoric.

That must have existed for almost 4000 years.

Thal

[gymnopedist]

https://www.ebaumsworld.com/2007/01/prehistoric-shark.html

very interesting, but i doubt very much that it's real

Shorty

I think it is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frilled_shark

[lichristine]

Aaaaahhhhhhh he's so adorable!!!!!!!!!!
look at him!!! look at his li'l teeth he looks so happy! ^_^ And his li'l eyes and aaawwwww I want one.

[rach n bach]

 

Seriously though, this is a fascinating find...  even if it isn't real, it almost should be...

[mycrabface]

There was an article which came up in my newspaper a week ago. They caught it and not too long after, it died. That's horrible. They should have known better. Obviously there was a high chance that it would not be able to survive because it only surfaces in a few hundred years (or a few decades - I forgot).

[shortyshort]

I think it is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frilled_shark

I stand corrected.

Shorty

[gilad]

i wonder if one of those could have been the lochness monster?

[debussy symbolism]

i wonder if one of those could have been the lochness monster?

Greetings.

That is highly unlikely as the specimen doesn't prefer to live in lakes. It is more comfortable in larger bodies of water and I don't think that a lake will suit this shark.

[lichristine]

it's kind of midget too.

[debussy symbolism]

I watched a documentary on the Loch Ness creaturee and some curious team set out to dive to the lake's depths and upon ariving there they found a strange carcass of something which somewhat resembled a rotting plesiosaur. It is under inspection so no more clues on that one. A no less fascinating aspect of the expedition was that they also discovered some other (bizarre) creatures completely unknown to modern science. If new specimens are to be found, why not a prehistoric creature? There are many other sightings of creatures similar to that of Loch Ness, namely the "Champ" creature. Lake Champ bears a stricking similarity to Lake Loch, so it is possible that such grounds may bear secrets that are to be (or not to be) discovered.

[prometheus]

Of course it's real.

Also, why it died they never said anything about the details. I assumed it was already dying because of the low pressure in shallow water. And then they tried to capture it. Not sure if they had a solution to the problem.


Maybe the people capturing were totally ignorant of both. It never became clear to me.


It would have been pretty stupid if it only died because it was captured.

If they really found a carcass they would have had not only bones but also DNA.


About Lock Ness, it's just a myth. Don't take attempts to rekindle the story too serious untill there is actually concrete evidence.

[thalbergmad]

I watched a documentary on the Loch Ness creaturee and some curious team set out to dive to the lake's depths and upon ariving there they found a strange carcass of something which somewhat resembled a rotting plesiosaur.

I have heard that story, but if i remember, it was a dumped hippo carcass from a local zoo.

Being addicted to Scotland as i am, i have spent many holidays at Fort Augustus and many hours around and on the Loch. I have personally never seen anything myself, but i have spoken to people that have and i have seen things that could be mistaken for a monster.

Apart from nearly 4,000 eye witnesses over the years, there are also some photos, moving pictures and sonar evidence. The problem with photos is that a bad one is dismissed as inconclusive and a good one as a fake.

I agree with Arthur C Clarke in as much as that on Mondays, Wednesdays & Fridays, i believe in Nessie.

Thal

[pianistimo]

could you do that with Jesus Christ, too?  it would assuage my soul.  now, i must turn my attention to ahinton.

[thalbergmad]

I am prepared to go that far.

Shame it is a Tuesday

Thal

[ahinton]

I agree with Arthur C Clarke in as much as that on Mondays, Wednesdays & Fridays, i believe in Nessie.

Thal

could you do that with Jesus Christ, too? it would assuage my soul.

Even assuming that Thal could - or would - do any such thing, why would it "assuage your soul" (by which, rightly or wrongly, I presume you to mean all of it rather than merely part thereof)?

now, i must turn my attention to ahinton.

What have I done now?

Best,

Alistair

[debussy symbolism]

I have heard that story, but if i remember, it was a dumped hippo carcass from a local zoo.

Heh, might as well. The moment something tangible comes up, something that could potentially be the "it," it just gets refuted and disproven and leaves witnesses angry. I think that is what's so interesting about the creature, and all other mysteries for that matter, is that despite many attempts at dirsproving them, there will always be witnesses who are sure of what they are seeing.

[ahinton]

I have heard that story, but if i remember, it was a dumped hippo carcass from a local zoo.

Being addicted to Scotland as i am, i have spent many holidays at Fort Augustus and many hours around and on the Loch. I have personally never seen anything myself, but i have spoken to people that have and i have seen things that could be mistaken for a monster.

Apart from nearly 4,000 eye witnesses over the years, there are also some photos, moving pictures and sonar evidence. The problem with photos is that a bad one is dismissed as inconclusive and a good one as a fake.

I agree with Arthur C Clarke in as much as that on Mondays, Wednesdays & Fridays, i believe in Nessie.

Thal

When I was very much younger than I am now (which would not be all that difficult, as it happens), I lived in Inverness for a short time, but I never saw it; maybe I wasn't there long enough, or maybe I had no mirror in those days or maybe, even if I had one, I'd still not have seen the creature as I'd not started to compose then.

In all seriousness, however, I think that the difficulty in establishing reliable sightings is because the monster spent so much time in a comatose and immobile state; long before the recently deceased Italian stage composer Menotti bought the castle in Scotland that Sorabji never had (see old editions of Baker's Biographical Dictionary of Musicians if you're not already familiar with that myth), Puccini well understood this and epitomised it in that famous aria from his final opera Turandot that we all know and love as Nessie n'Dorma...

Best,

Alistair

[thalbergmad]

The moment something tangible comes up, something that could potentially be the "it," it just gets refuted and disproven and leaves witnesses angry.

That does indeed happen but the problem being with Loch Ness is that there has been considerable fraud and deception.

Many years ago, i thought Dr Rines had clinched it with his "flipper" photo, but it was later revealed that it was heavily touched up. Then the famous "surgeons" photo was shown to be a fake. There were also some impressive photos from the mid 1970's but they were examined and found to have been altered somewhat. Nowadays with all these digital cameras, i expect the average 7 year old could come up with a very respectable fake.

For me, the most impressive evidence is the eye witness accounts especially where it has been seen at the same time by more than one person.

I understand that a nun once reported a sighting. Surely the last person to make up a story?

Thal

[thalbergmad]

When I was very much younger than I am now (which would not be all that difficult, as it happens), I lived in Inverness for a short time

Were you at Culloden?

Best

Thal

Best

Thal

Best

Thal

[henrah]

I think that is what's so interesting about the creature, and all other mysteries for that matter, is that despite many attempts at dirsproving them, there will always be witnesses who are sure of what they are seeing.

Much like abductions, UFO sightings, levitation, WWE being real, hallucinations, God, Life, the Universe...

[ahinton]

Were you at Culloden?

Yes, once - but not (I'm sorry to have to disappoint you) during the battle for which it has since become famous; although I said that I was there a long time ago, I hasten to assure yout that it was not THAT long ago...

By the way, since you are something of an Ecossophile, did you know Bonnie Prince Charlie personally? (just curious...)

Best,

Alistair

[thalbergmad]

By the way, since you are something of an Ecossophile, did you know Bonnie Prince Charlie personally?

No, but i have kissed Muriel Grey and i used to go to school with Jimmy Shand's nephew.

If you are reading this Muriel, do you remember? Glasgow Railway Station, July 2001?

Thal

[ahinton]

Much like abductions, UFO sightings, levitation, WWE being real, hallucinations, God, Life, the Universe...

...everyThal?...

Best,

Alistair

[timothy42b]

I am prepared to go that far.

Shame it is a Tuesday

Thal

There once was a man sentenced to hang the next week, "on a day that you won't expect it." 

His lawyer excitedly observed that he was safe.  Because if he made it alive to Friday, he would know it was to be Saturday, and expect it, therefore Saturday was out.  By the same argument it couldn't be Friday, Thursday, etc.  In fact, they couldn't hang him at all. 

Wednesday they hung him, to his surprise.  He hadn't expected it.

However that was his "belief" day, so we can assume salvation was at hand. 

[mycrabface]

i wonder if one of those could have been the lochness monster?

Umm there's this physics thing that can prove the lochness monster doesn't exist. I think its to do with density and mass. Okay I have no idea how to prove it, but its proven.

[rebby]

so guys here's the biig quessie

IS IT REAL OR NOT ?

[shortyshort]

personally, i would say NO, it's not real

[debussy symbolism]

so guys here's the biig quessie

IS IT REAL OR NOT ?

I think that the question is more important than the answer. I think that the whole "Loch Ness" creature incident, as well as the myriad of other unsolved mysteries and paradoxes ranging from Bigfoot and Moth-man to UFO's and government conspiracies are only a mirror of the human thirst for knowledge and a thirst for the unknown. There is always mysteries and things to discover and know, and without mysteries life will become dull. In my opinion I would not be entirely satisfied if the Loch Ness creature was found out and became famous for only a day, despite my curiosity to know the truth. It is the mystery that is fascinating and important. There is nothing wrong with curiosity.

[ahinton]

I think that the question is more important than the answer. I think that the whole "Loch Ness" creature incident, as well as the myriad of other unsolved mysteries and paradoxes ranging from Bigfoot and Moth-man to UFO's and government conspiracies are only a mirror of the human thirst for knowledge and a thirst for the unknown. There is always mysteries and things to discover and know, and without mysteries life will become dull. In my opinion I would not be entirely satisfied if the Loch Ness creature was found out and became famous for only a day, despite my curiosity to know the truth. It is the mystery that is fascinating and important. There is nothing wrong with curiosity.

Fair comment for the most part, aside from your unwise inclusion of "government conspiracies" in this context for, in most such cases, these are anything but mysterious, as we get to hear almost too much about them, thereby destroying any "mystery" that they might otherwise have hoped to embrace; our present government in UK, for example, is now widely regarded as believing conspiratorial motivation to be an essential statutory ingredient of every policy...

Best,

Alistair

[debussy symbolism]

Fair comment for the most part, aside from your unwise inclusion of "government conspiracies" in this context for, in most such cases, these are anything but mysterious, as we get to hear almost too much about them, thereby destroying any "mystery" that they might otherwise have hoped to embrace; our present government in UK, for example, is now widely regarded as believing conspiratorial motivation to be an essential statutory ingredient of every policy...

Best,

Alistair

Heh, why do you think the Free Stonemasons continued to exist? Because the entire cult was shrouded in mystery and those who succeeded in becoming initiated and progressed through the ranks could get in on that "secret knowledge." I think that should something contain "secrets," people will most definately try to join, especially if the secrets are of the "don't talk about it" kind.

[thalbergmad]

especially if the secrets are of the "don't talk about it" kind.

I thought all secrets were of the "don't talk about it" kind.

Thal

[lichristine]

hahahaha
sorry, not to be mean, but that was really funny...

[debussy symbolism]

hahahaha
sorry, not to be mean, but that was really funny...

I am sorry, but what is "really funny"?

[lichristine]

thal's reply....i dunno, it made me laugh.

[ahinton]

Heh, why do you think the Free Stonemasons continued to exist? Because the entire cult was shrouded in mystery and those who succeeded in becoming initiated and progressed through the ranks could get in on that "secret knowledge." I think that should something contain "secrets," people will most definately try to join, especially if the secrets are of the "don't talk about it" kind.

As Thal has observed, all secrets are by definition of that kind - but, whilst not disagreeing with the rest of what you write, the point that I was making is that the synonymity of "conspiracy" and "secrecy" has, in certain political circles, become somehwat diluted of late, especially to the extent of increased general public expectation that those who set out to develop careers in politics must by definition - and indeed almost by necessity - be of a corrupt nature and therefore also likely of conspiratorial bent.

What this has to to with prehistoric sharks anywhere, I have less than no idea; it seems to me to have far more to do with present-day sharks of a quite different kind...

Best,

Alistair

[thalbergmad]

thal's reply....i dunno, it made me laugh.

I have that affect on girls.

Thal

[lichristine]

Oh really? What a talent. ^_^