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If someone said to you that he was playing Opus 10 Number 1, would you assume he was talking about...

Beethoven
Chopin
I would just nod and smile like I knew even though I didn't
I'd tell him he was a moron
I only care what I'm playing, forget everyone else

Topic: What the heck is up with what's his name  (Read 2039 times)

Offline blintz

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What the heck is up with what's his name
on: March 06, 2007, 03:55:00 AM
Okay, so this pianist says to me something about Opus 10 no 1 and just EXPECTED me to know he was talking about Chopin........what's up with that?  My mind immediately went to Beethoven....does that make me stupid or uncultured or something?  Would someone help me grok this?

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Re: What the heck is up with what's his name
Reply #1 on: March 06, 2007, 07:59:47 AM
I rather think that most people would automatically assume Chopin, rather like if one spoke of the "C# minor quartet" or the "F minor Ballade" most people would likewise assume, respectively, Beethoven and Chopin.

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Offline henrah

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Re: What the heck is up with what's his name
Reply #2 on: March 06, 2007, 11:50:14 AM
Maybe because Chopin's Opus 10, being the first set of etudes, and the etudes being the most famous works of Chopin, is known better unversally than Beethoven's Opus 10.


Btw, what is Beethoven's Opus 10? Is it a set of sonatas, or is it an Opus with many different works in?
Currently learning:<br />Liszt- Consolation No.3<br />J.W.Hässler- Sonata No.6 in C, 2nd mvt<br />Glière- No.10 from 12 Esquisses, Op.47<br />Saint-Saens- VII Aquarium<br />Mozart- Fantasie KV397<br /

Offline dnephi

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Re: What the heck is up with what's his name
Reply #3 on: March 06, 2007, 12:59:43 PM
It's a set of 3 or 4 sonatas, can't remember which.

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Offline thalberg

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Re: What the heck is up with what's his name
Reply #4 on: March 18, 2007, 03:37:57 AM
It's a set of 3.

Offline invictious

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Re: What the heck is up with what's his name
Reply #5 on: March 18, 2007, 04:09:03 AM
Why do I even care.
No. I am the centre of the universe.
Bach - Partita No.2
Scriabin - Etude 8/12
Debussy - L'isle Joyeuse
Liszt - Un Sospiro

Goal:
Prokofiev - Toccata

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Offline mikey6

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Re: What the heck is up with what's his name
Reply #6 on: March 19, 2007, 05:20:46 AM
It took me ages to figure out comme's op.10no2 referred to Chopin and not Beethoven.  Least I think it does, Beethoven's isn't a particularly an SDC piece but then again neither is Chopin - which is it? ???
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Offline henrah

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Re: What the heck is up with what's his name
Reply #7 on: March 19, 2007, 07:10:49 AM
Chopin 10/2 not an SDC piece? Dat sheet be da true pregnant cat dayum 8)
Currently learning:<br />Liszt- Consolation No.3<br />J.W.Hässler- Sonata No.6 in C, 2nd mvt<br />Glière- No.10 from 12 Esquisses, Op.47<br />Saint-Saens- VII Aquarium<br />Mozart- Fantasie KV397<br /

Offline mikey6

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Re: What the heck is up with what's his name
Reply #8 on: March 20, 2007, 12:19:14 AM
It's not really furious like op10 no1 or 25 12 - it's obviously a pregnant dog to play but I would think the trick is to make it sound easy,
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Offline pianowelsh

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Re: What the heck is up with what's his name
Reply #9 on: March 20, 2007, 12:39:19 PM
would depend on who was talking to me...i would expect a first year college student to mean op10/1 of chopin because in year one they are all obsessed with chopin and technical difficulties... It it was DMA student - I would expect the Beethoven option would be more likely as they tend to be SLIGHTLY less obsessed with the mechanics of things by that stage.  However I usually just let someone talk for a few seconds - I find listening to someone really makes it obvious which one they are talking about...If they dont make it obvious which one they are addressing its usually not worth talking to them about it because they dont know anything.  I nearly always get my score out when someone wants to discuss music..i like to have the naked text infront of me and preferably be near a piano.

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Re: What the heck is up with what's his name
Reply #10 on: March 21, 2007, 08:00:47 PM
It's not really furious like op10 no1 or 25 12 - it's obviously a pregnant dog to play but I would think the trick is to make it sound easy,
The trick is to do it in less than 1 minute.

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Re: What the heck is up with what's his name
Reply #11 on: March 22, 2007, 02:37:00 PM
Chopin 10/2 not an SDC piece? Dat sheet be da true pregnant cat dayum 8)

ahahaha da censorzhip  ::) 8) >:( ;D

For me, Op.10 No.1 is now an instinctual reference to Chopin, mostly because of the amount of chatter about it on this forum. It has desensitized me and I have become tolerant of its use.

Much like Op.111, Op.53, and Op.25 No.2.

Phil

faure ballade, chopin heroic polonaise, and medtner 'night wind' sonata

Offline ihatepop

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Re: What the heck is up with what's his name
Reply #12 on: March 24, 2007, 10:31:14 AM
I'd assume it was Chopin.

ihatepop
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