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Offline pianistimo

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stove problem
on: March 23, 2007, 09:33:23 PM
spring cleaning.  now that it's clean -it won't work.  i have a general electric range/stove XL-44 - gas.  i never clean under the top or around the burners - so finally today - i thought - hmm.  let's clean everything.  so i dutifully vaccummed under the top and wiped it out.  wasn't as hard as i thought.  then, i pulled up on the burners - and what do you know!  they come out as a pair - with a metal bar connecting them. 

so i put some baking soda and vinegar on them.  barely works.  then, i pour boiling water over the entire thing.  starts to work but not enough.  so i let them soak in the boiling water for an hour.  sure enough - all the grease and grime came right off.

then - i dried them and put them back into place.  turn on the burners.  no flames come out from the top little windows.  only a bonfire under the burner.  i thought there was still water inside or something - so i turned all of them on one at a time to dry the burners out.  (turning it off quickly). 

have i permanently damaged my stove burners?  is there something inside these units (two burners) that is damaged by water?  is this a stupid question?  this is exactly why i don't deep clean things very often. 

usually i just do a cursory wipe with the sponge around and on top of the burners.

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Re: stove problem
Reply #1 on: March 23, 2007, 09:50:41 PM
ps  it is pilotless (no flame in center) and makes the 'clicking' noise to start.  i think i damaged something in the burners themselves.  or do i need to poke a needle in every one of those holes in the burners?

i think i solved my own problem.  i think the 'windows' of the burners had a film of soap or something (even though i rinsed) because i poked a straight pin in every one of them and then the burners worked.

btw, after looking at several sites - 'barkeeper's friend' seems to be a popular cleaner for burners.  also, one lady claims she just puts them directly into the dishwasher and they come out clean. 

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Re: stove problem
Reply #2 on: March 23, 2007, 10:07:31 PM
The best thing to do is put your head in the oven and see if you can light it.

Sure way to find any faults.

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Re: stove problem
Reply #3 on: March 24, 2007, 12:08:19 AM
oh, thanks!  i'll remember that when you come visit.

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Re: stove problem
Reply #4 on: March 24, 2007, 03:11:57 PM
The best thing to do is put your head in the oven and see if you can light it.

Sure way to find any faults.

Thal

And if that doesn't work, try prayer.  In my neighborhodd, we often hold "stove prayer vigils" when our tambourines are at the cleaners.
Current repertoire:  "Come to Jesus" (in whole-notes)

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Re: stove problem
Reply #5 on: March 24, 2007, 06:59:05 PM
taking tamborines to the cleaners?  heresy.  actually, i just clap my hands when they're not around.  'lights on, lights off.' 

never witnessed a stove prayer vigil.  i should have thought to pray over the stove to get it to work.  i've done that with the garbage disposal, though.  it worked, btw.

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Re: stove problem
Reply #6 on: March 24, 2007, 07:08:14 PM
You know, P, I'm having trouble with my gas stove, too.  I poked pins in those little "windows" and it didn't help.  Only half the burners fire when on, and the back burners won't ignite at all now!  (And, yes, I do keep the thing clean, but no "deep cleaning" because nuthin works after I do that!)  Gotta take a match to them to get them to fire.  I also noticed that the gas jets lately have lots of "orange/yellow" in them.  Do you think this means that air is in the gas line?  Maybe the gas pressure is too low? 

Hmm.  Maybe I should give Con Edison a call, huh?

Going to hear Louis Lortie tonight at Carnegie Hall.  Big Liszt recital!
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Re: stove problem
Reply #7 on: March 24, 2007, 07:25:49 PM
Going to hear Louis Lortie tonight at Carnegie Hall.  Big Liszt recital!

Enjoy!  :D  Wisn I could go...  :-\
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Re: stove problem
Reply #8 on: March 24, 2007, 07:38:41 PM
louis lortie.  i thought he was trumpet player and really old.  come to find out, here he is a pianist and not THAT old.

cmg, what is he playing? 

second question.  do you have a gas stove with a pilot light?  i heard you're supposed to clean that thing out with a pin, too, after turning the gas off.  then, it will be properly lit to get the burners to light properly.  aside from that, i haven't a clue.  perhaps when you washed the burners - you didn't use enough soapy water to rinse out residue or grease inside those 'windows.'

here's what someone in the mid-west does (people are really smart in the mid-west - common sense-wise).  take a large garbage bag and set it in the bathtub.  put in one cup of ammonia.  put racks/burners/ anything with grease in the bag.  tie up the bag. let it set overnight.  have to look this one up.  anyways, after a long enough time - everything that is greasy comes off.  rinse well (maybe dishwasher?) and then replace.

https://www.thriftyfun.com/tf506804.tip.html  scroll down to harlene from arkansas

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Re: stove problem
Reply #9 on: March 24, 2007, 09:15:36 PM
louis lortie.  i thought he was trumpet player and really old.  come to find out, here he is a pianist and not THAT old.

cmg, what is he playing? 

second question.  do you have a gas stove with a pilot light? 

Yeh, Louis ain't so old!  He's playing Liszt "Tannhauser Overture," Vallee d'Obermann (huzzah! huzzah!  LOVE that piece), a couple of Thomas Ades things I don't know, Chopin B Major Nocturne (Op. 62, I think) and the Chopin B minor Sonata. 

If we're lucky, he might do the Thalbergmad Tambourine Sonata, No. 4.  Don't know who the tambourinist will be, though.  P, can you get up from Philly quick?  You know that sonata, don't you?

No.  Not pilot light.  One of those clicky ignition things, then, POOF!, fire.  Isn't yours that kind?

Arensky?  Come on down!  I'll sneak you into the recital. 
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Re: stove problem
Reply #10 on: March 24, 2007, 09:47:46 PM
Thalbergmad Tambourine Sonata, No. 4.  

That is a copyrighted work and he has not asked my permission.

Thal
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Re: stove problem
Reply #11 on: March 24, 2007, 11:11:10 PM
getting up from anywhere quick is a problem these days.  i have to count to three getting out of the honda accord EX- but that is because it sits so low and the side of the car seems so high.  i try to keep my feet together but usually give up because the door won't open wide enough with the seat so far forward.  (trying to get children in the back).  usually i just give up being proper and turn around enough to get one foot out - then hop backwards twice with my head bent low.  who designed these cars anyways?  i love everything about this car - excepting getting in and out.  must have been a midget.

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Re: stove problem
Reply #12 on: March 24, 2007, 11:15:42 PM
i love everything about this car - excepting getting in and out.  must have been a midget.

Well, it was built by Japs.

Thal
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Re: stove problem
Reply #13 on: March 25, 2007, 03:36:06 AM
i have to count to three getting out of the honda accord EX- but that is because it sits so low and the side of the car seems so high.  i try to keep my feet together but usually give up because the door won't open wide enough with the seat so far forward.  (trying to get children in the back).  usually i just give up being proper and turn around enough to get one foot out - then hop backwards twice with my head bent low.  who designed these cars anyways? 

I have the exact same car and model... I love it!

i love everything about this car - excepting getting in and out.

Is in-n-out better when you aren't in the car???

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i have to agree that in-and-out is hard to beat for good ingredients!
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