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Offline resheto

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The quickest pianist
on: April 05, 2007, 01:30:48 PM

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Re: The quickest pianist
Reply #1 on: April 05, 2007, 01:48:25 PM






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Re: The quickest pianist
Reply #2 on: April 05, 2007, 07:41:52 PM
very cool.  must be hungarian.

wow.  amazing!  i never heard richter play the chopin etude opus 10 #4.  maybe someday i'll get the last page.  he doesn't smash it.  that must be the they key.

ingolf wonder is amazing there, too.  and of course, marc andre hamelin.  who can play alkan.  but none of these artists are improvising here.

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Re: The quickest pianist
Reply #3 on: April 05, 2007, 07:51:41 PM
anyone quicker? ---->    https://www.myubo.sk/movie_detail.php?id=1510

Fazil Say is very good, but hardly an A-class tech.







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very cool. must be hungarian.

wow. amazing! i never heard richter play the chopin etude opus 10 #4. maybe someday i'll get the last page. he doesn't smash it. that must be the they key.

ingolf wonder is amazing there, too. and of course, marc andre hamelin. who can play alkan. but none of these artists are improvising here.

Say is Turkish, hence the rondo alla TURKa.

What does improvising have to do with any of it? Say was playing his own composition.
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Re: The quickest pianist
Reply #4 on: April 05, 2007, 07:58:34 PM
oh. yes.  right.  must remember, fazil say.  improvisor extrordinaire.  30 second bursts - fit right into the two or three measures he skipped.  perhaps mozart could learn a thing or two from this young turk. 

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Re: The quickest pianist
Reply #5 on: April 05, 2007, 08:32:32 PM
Claudio Arrau !



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Re: The quickest pianist
Reply #6 on: April 06, 2007, 09:21:05 PM
Not the quickest, but everytime I see this video, I'm impressed:


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Re: The quickest pianist
Reply #7 on: April 07, 2007, 10:40:16 AM
amazing all this pianists

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Re: The quickest pianist
Reply #8 on: April 08, 2007, 12:18:03 AM
Probably Ian Pace.  Maybe Hodges.

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Re: The quickest pianist
Reply #9 on: April 08, 2007, 12:20:05 AM
Probably Ian Pace.  Maybe Hodges.

Maybe even you too?  :)
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Re: The quickest pianist
Reply #10 on: April 08, 2007, 02:49:12 AM
anyone quicker? ---->    https://www.myubo.sk/movie_detail.php?id=1510

Of course. And on a completely different plane of virtuosity as well:





All of his lines spontaneously improvised
Ultra-clean articulation and each note given it's own dynamic and envelope (jazz phrasing)with VERY little use of the pedal.
Plus, the thing about Oscar is that he NEVER plays at the top end of his limit speed. The musical line itself is always crafted tatsefully so that speed itself doesn't dictate the choic of notes, causing most pianist "speed demon's" to constantly fall back on riffs and repetitious patterns.

The huge difference between Oscar, Tristano, Martial Solal, Keith Jarrett, and so many other speed demons like them is that those four can negotiate narrow city streets at 400 mph, while most others can only put the pedal to the metal on the salt flats where obstacles (taste) aren't/isn't an issue.

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Re: The quickest pianist
Reply #11 on: April 08, 2007, 02:56:56 AM




i think that's pretty much as fast as it gets. maybe with the exception of richters ten four.
i'm not asian

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Re: The quickest pianist
Reply #12 on: April 08, 2007, 03:07:16 AM




i think that's pretty much as fast as it gets. maybe with the exception of richters ten four.

You think wrong, but he is amazing.
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Re: The quickest pianist
Reply #13 on: April 08, 2007, 04:44:35 AM
ah, crap. well, to my impression nothing has seemed quite faster than that. so....maybe this is a matter of opinion.
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Re: The quickest pianist
Reply #14 on: April 08, 2007, 05:34:18 AM
ah, crap. well, to my impression nothing has seemed quite faster than that. so....maybe this is a matter of opinion.

Speed has nothing to do with opinion.

Calculate the number of notes/octaves a second, and that's the speed.

Others play faster, but few match his articulation and accuracy, true.
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Re: The quickest pianist
Reply #15 on: April 08, 2007, 05:53:35 AM


I know the 3rd movement of Beethoven's Moonlight is fast, but this just seems ridiculous.
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Re: The quickest pianist
Reply #16 on: April 08, 2007, 06:08:22 AM






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The third movt of the Alkan con is still my favourite piano vid. Just insane pyrotechnics.

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Re: The quickest pianist
Reply #17 on: April 08, 2007, 06:46:11 AM


I know the 3rd movement of Beethoven's Moonlight is fast, but this just seems ridiculous.
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And true , brew, mine also, along with the Cziffra improv vid.
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Re: The quickest pianist
Reply #18 on: April 08, 2007, 08:39:18 AM


I know the 3rd movement of Beethoven's Moonlight is fast, but this just seems ridiculous.


Here's more contenders to add to the burgeoning list of "very fast, but sounds like sh*t AND you can compose another piece from all the bricks" Youtube video olympics:





Reminds me of the time we had a typing test (electric typewriter) when I was in high school (about 1000 years ago). I was determined to just let it all hang out and type like the wind. I did 6 paragraphs in about 30 seconds, at a rate of about 320 wpm, no kidding. The girl in the class that had the highest LEGITIMATE, almost errorless typing speed (about 130 wpm.) was absolutely furious. She got a hold of my paper and counted the errors. On a whole, there were more errors than correct characters!  ;D


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Re: The quickest pianist
Reply #19 on: April 08, 2007, 08:58:11 AM
Of course. And on a completely different plane of virtuosity as well:





All of his lines spontaneously improvised


In the theme vid there is a little segment where Oscar plays all by himself. In other videos he plays the EXACT same thing, so no it is not all spontaneously improvised. And do you think Oscar is faster than Marc Andre Hamelin?

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Re: The quickest pianist
Reply #20 on: April 08, 2007, 03:01:29 PM
Actually there is a live of Rudolf Serkin playing the entire third movement of the moonlight at almost that speed.   Barere also has a 5:XX of the third movement.

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Re: The quickest pianist
Reply #21 on: April 08, 2007, 04:17:43 PM
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You call that an "interpretation"?   ???

I didn't understand a single word in this "interpretation"  :-X
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Re: The quickest pianist
Reply #22 on: April 08, 2007, 04:56:40 PM
Q: Quickest pianist?

A: You'll have to ask his wife!

BADAMCHH!!!!

Sorry, bad taste.  8)

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Re: The quickest pianist
Reply #23 on: April 08, 2007, 09:57:29 PM
In the theme vid there is a little segment where Oscar plays all by himself. In other videos he plays the EXACT same thing, so no it is not all spontaneously improvised. And do you think Oscar is faster than Marc Andre Hamelin?

Having heard Oscar play both Chopin and Liszt (passages from their compositions), I have no doubt that Oscar would be able to at least MATCH anyone's velocity given the same passages to perform. Oscar NEVER plays at the true top end of his limit velocity, which is why his playing is virtually errorless, and even more clearly discernable as such because Oscar rarely uses the sustain pedal, NEVER even tapping it during his melodic phrases. Oscar always has plenty of headroom between his performance velocity and what he is actually capable of speed-wise.

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Re: The quickest pianist
Reply #24 on: April 09, 2007, 02:08:55 AM
Q: Quickest pianist?

A: You'll have to ask his wife!

BADAMCHH!!!!

Sorry, bad taste.  8)


On Easter, with many rabbits eagerly waiting their turn in the wings, you'd score extra points for getting the job done quickly.  ;D

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Re: The quickest pianist
Reply #25 on: April 12, 2007, 02:23:47 PM
the guy who played the winter wind etude looked like he was either taking out a very painful splinter or he was murdering someone....very cool... ;D

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Re: The quickest pianist
Reply #26 on: April 13, 2007, 07:29:43 AM
Another pretendent:

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Re: The quickest pianist
Reply #27 on: April 13, 2007, 08:30:45 AM
Maybe even you too?  :)

and maybe you too? :)

comme= an A-class virtuoso wanna be :D   go comme! u can be the next hamelin!

well, possibly ;). at least if you spend more time on the piano....



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Re: The quickest pianist
Reply #28 on: April 13, 2007, 08:32:39 AM
i wanna hear skepto play
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Re: The quickest pianist
Reply #29 on: April 18, 2007, 03:19:21 AM
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Definitive interpretation!


And true , brew, mine also, along with the Cziffra improv vid.

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Re: The quickest pianist
Reply #30 on: April 18, 2007, 03:21:37 AM
that kid playing Op.25 No.11 also was an awful sight... is it just me or did he midway thru the piece forget about dynamics and stick to fff all the way? Boring and unmusical, that was something else. A trained monkey on crack or something.  ;)
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Re: The quickest pianist
Reply #31 on: April 18, 2007, 06:02:49 AM
that kid playing Op.25 No.11 also was an awful sight... is it just me or did he midway thru the piece forget about dynamics and stick to fff all the way? Boring and unmusical, that was something else. A trained monkey on crack or something.  ;)

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Re: The quickest pianist
Reply #32 on: April 18, 2007, 08:19:00 AM
that kid playing Op.25 No.11 also was an awful sight... is it just me or did he midway thru the piece forget about dynamics and stick to fff all the way? Boring and unmusical, that was something else. A trained monkey on crack or something.  ;)

Why so harsh, esp. considering a minute ago that, as you put it, "kid" just played one of the most phenomenal op10/2 I ever witnessed? In order to be fair and have, so to speak, a "balanced" message, you could at least aknowledge the 10/2 was not that bad...

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Re: The quickest pianist
Reply #33 on: April 18, 2007, 08:26:55 AM






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I'm pretty sure the Richter 10/4 vid is sped up. 
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Re: The quickest pianist
Reply #34 on: April 18, 2007, 10:18:01 PM
Why so harsh, esp. considering a minute ago that, as you put it, "kid" just played one of the most phenomenal op10/2 I ever witnessed? In order to be fair and have, so to speak, a "balanced" message, you could at least aknowledge the 10/2 was not that bad...

True, gotta give it to the "kid", the No.2 was very good indeed. :)

I'm pretty sure the Richter 10/4 vid is sped up.

it does look that way to me also, I don't really like to listen to this Etude THAT fast.
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Re: The quickest pianist
Reply #35 on: April 19, 2007, 09:13:39 PM
I'm the quickest pianist in London anyway. No one gets from gig to gig faster than me! Oh, you meant actually _playing_.....

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