How many of you know that Thalberg and Thalbergmad are two different people?

[ahinton]

Why is it that when someone is not trying to be inflammatory, everyone gets all mad? But when I try intentionally to be inflammatory, everyone (that's you, Alistair) deliberately deprives me of my amusement? 

But okay, back to  the topic.  I am not Thalbergmad. 

First off, I am not "everyone", as you write above. Secondly, I have not, nor have I ever harboured, any intention or desire to "deprive you of (your) amusement", accordingly, I duly  apologise without reservation if I have in fact unwittingly done just that. Lastly - and for the record and the avoidance of doubt - I have never suggested that you are mad, "Thalbergianly" or otherwise.

Best,

Alistair

[pianistimo]

see...thalbergmad - i have a following.  perhaps he will give you the answers you seek.  for now - i'll take the six year old version.  where is it?  and, what is this about er..whathisname?  how did he, so many years ago, make (*what you call) a fairly accurate estimate of the circumference of the earth.  did it include water?  if it did - the answer is wRONG.  according to me.  but, anyways - no matter.  mass of earth and water together.  but, wait - that's measuring two separate things isn't it? 

if you have  aball - the surface is smooth and you just measure it completely around.  but, the earth - as you say - has mountains.  so even if you measured by the sea level - you'd have to know exactly the pin-point of the core of the earth.  to find that - we need to know the radius or diameter of the earth.  anyways - i am curious what method he used to find this out.  and truly how precise one could have been back then. 

just put it in six-year old language.  i don't want pages and pages.

[thalbergmad]

Look it up yourself, it is not difficult.

If i took a tape measure and wrapped it around the equator and then somebody placed a marble under the tape measure, the distance would increase. You are being pedantic, nobody is going to claim accuracy to within nanometres.

It does not matter if there is a mountain in the way, if you take measurement from mean sea level.

If you tambourine bangers had historically spent more time listening to scientists instead of burning them, you would be very much the wiser.

Thal

[pianistimo]

ok.  so what exactly WAS the measurement?  within 'nanometers.'  (what are nanometers?)  on one site it says the molecules of a freshly baked cookie that enter your nose. 

now, i happen to doubt this fellow actually got the circumference of the earth right.  he didn't even know the sea level at that time did they? besides - it is irrelevant.  knowing the core of the earth would be much more precise.  and how - exactlyis he going to get either?  from walking exactly 1/2 way around the world and counting steps?  i suppose he walks on water, too - so his course would not diverge.  that means an exactly straight sailing boat.

face it - he was guessing.  sea level has changed since the polar ice-caps melted.  only until the shuttle went around the earth - could we know anything fairly accurate about it at all.  and even now - it's just not 'spectrometrally' possible to take in the anomolies that earth has compared to other planets.  i mean - if the core of the earth is not ALL molten rock and actually contains water at the core - then we are talking miscalculation right there of the 'mass' and therefore circumference of the earth.  water and earth having different masses and water usually not being measured circumferentially.

also, water can vaporize. 

i think archimedes thought that grains of sand could be measured, too.  likely story.

[thalbergmad]

Point?

[pianistimo]

scientist are full of horsecrap.  sometimes.  they do not dignify what they don't know.

[thalbergmad]

At least they use their brains instead of blindy relying on absurd predictions from a 2000 year old book of fairy stories.

[pianistimo]

a slave is not greater than his master.  but, i do not see a really big problem between science and faith.  as long as you don't worship science.  if they would only say once in a while 'i don't know' - they would be more credible.

[thalbergmad]

Point?

[pianistimo]

if you didn't know something - would you come up with a theory and espouse it as fact?  i mean - i watched a tv show the other night on dinosaurs and they forgot to give them sex differences and poop holes.  i told my daughter - they forgot something here.  androgenous dinosaurs.  yes.  really credible.  i'm not saying large animals didn't exist - but some of them are pretty far fetched.  have you actually watched someone uncover the entire dinosaur skeleton.  it's a piece job.

[thalbergmad]

Point?

[thalbergmad]

i watched a tv show the other night on dinosaurs and they forgot to give them sex differences and poop holes. 

The good Lord has blessed you with 2 poop holes.

Thal

[pianowolfi]

Anyone noticed already that "Thal" and "Berg" are anyway antipodes? ("Valley" and "Mountain")

[thalberg]

Anyone noticed already that "Thal" and "Berg" are anyway antipodes? ("Valley" and "Mountain")

Haha....that is cool.

[thalberg]

First off, I am not "everyone", as you write above.

Okay...if you insist.

Secondly, I have not, nor have I ever harboured, any intention or desire to "deprive you of (your) amusement", accordingly, I duly  apologise without reservation if I have in fact unwittingly done just that.

Apology accepted.

Lastly - and for the record and the avoidance of doubt - I have never suggested that you are mad, "Thalbergianly" or otherwise. 

Thank you.

Best,

Alistair

Well, I probably won't try to inflame you again anyway....

[thalberg]

Point?

Yes, some people need this.....a person to follow them and ask them what their point is all the time.  As for me, I would like to hire someone to follow me around and say "I second that" to all of my assertions.  Any takers?  Pay is negotiable.

[ahinton]

Well, I probably won't try to inflame you again anyway....

"Again"? Since you haven't "inflamed" me at all yet, this doesn't seem to work...

Best,

Alistair

[thalbergmad]

pianistimo
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Tis a rare sight.

Thal

[pianowolfi]

Oh yeah, but where has the "piano forum god" gone 

[thalberg]

"Again"? Since you haven't "inflamed" me at all yet, this doesn't seem to work...

Best,

Alistair

I meant I probably won't make a second attempt to inflame you.  Not that my first attempt was directed only at you.  I was trying to inflame everyone....but it didn't work at all.

My goodness--Susan is rapidly approaching 10,000 posts.  Only 610 to go, which for her will take about 40 days..........when she hits ten thousand, what say we throw her a party?  In the chat room....virtual balloons and cake for all.

[ahinton]

I meant I probably won't make a second attempt to inflame you.  Not that my first attempt was directed only at you.  I was trying to inflame everyone....but it didn't work at all.

OK.

My goodness--Susan is rapidly approaching 10,000 posts.  Only 610 to go, which for her will take about 40 days

...and 40 nights, methinks...

..........when she hits ten thousand, what say we throw her a party?  In the chat room....virtual balloons and cake for all.

And some virtual candles, too?...

Best,

Alistair

[thalbergmad]

I sense a long and nonsense post by Sister Susan.

Thal

[pianistimo]

i've lost count.  thalbergmad - that wasn't nice.  you must learn to be polite.  although, i did think yesterday after i left pf to do whatever i did yesterday - why am i so inflammatory sometimes?  i mean - i don't really have a problem if dinosaurs existed. i just don't think that precise names and bodies for each one - were as exactly precise as they seem.  i'd like to see the entire fossil evidence for each one and then - after that possibly believe they existed as named and identified.

the croc hunter was on yesterday.  somehow - it just doesn't seem like he's dead a year or so.  he seems as alive as ever.  he was playing with snakes.  i was thinking - wow, he's got talent to be so unfearful of things.  can you imagine humans with dinosaurs?  and, yet - God said to adam that he would 'rule over' all these things.  therefore, finding human tracks on one side of the earth - and dinosaurs on the other - doesn't seem that odd to me.  i think the dinosaurs were probably called 'behemoth' and 'leviathin.'  both land and sea monsters.  i believe they were God's way of keeping the earth pruned and cultivated.  I mean - they probably did some tree trimming.

actual ages of dinosaurs may be wayyy off. 

[thalbergmad]

actual ages of dinosaurs may be wayyy off. 

Well you previously proved that the Earth is only 6,000 years old, so indeed that must be the case.

Thal

[pianistimo]

finally, you're talking some sense!

as i see it, God created the earth in whatever manner he wanted to.  He could make it appear older if He wanted.  if genesis 2:4 is literal - then 'this is the account of the heavens and earth WHEN THEY WERE CREATED, in the day that the Lord God MADE HEAVEN AND EARTH.'

someone pointed that out - because before that i thought there was a discrepancy between genesis 1:1-2 and genesis 1:3.  but, i suppose dinosaurs couldn't have existed previously on no earth without a sun.  if God made the heavens AND the earth - he wasn't joking.  it wasn't just - 'oh, lets make the earth.'  He made it all.  the heavens.  the earth. the animals.  mankind.  no small feat for six days.  unless...the verse in the bible means that 'each day is as a thousand years.'  in which case the earth would have had a very minute rotation of the sun - for it to be one evening and one morning.  it would be rather strange to see the sun going at a snails pace and then when adam arrives - all of a sudden - it starts a 24 hour cycle. 

you know - just the matter of time alone proves God.  why do we still have a calendar? kinda strange wouldn't you say? if there was a proof to evolution - it would mean the calendar and time also shifted gradually over time.  i mean - animals don't know the difference and if they evolved first - the humans that evolved would have to ask them the time -  but animals don't watch the clock.  AND NOBODY WOULD KNOW WHAT THE FIRST DAY WAS OR WHEN IT STARTED.  do you realize the jews actually know when our calendar began! that is because they're supposed to keep the calendar.  i mean approximately they know the year and approximate day - and perhaps even approximate time because the first day started in the evening and then was counted fully to the next evening (which started the next day).

i see God's hands in everything.  if the earth was older than 6000 or so years - it would mean that God's timing for the millenium is wayyy off.  but, the last 1000 years is called the millenium.  it's God's week.  He works like a watchmaker.  and, nothing keeps his timing off.  so despite all the deaths in iraq - and the things that seem to be going wrong - the reason we are over there is because it's leading up to something BIG.  the return of Jesus Christ. 

[thalbergmad]

If ignorance is bliss, you must be a very happy lady.

[cziffra]

finally, you're talking some sense!

as i see it, God created the earth in whatever manner he wanted to.  He could make it appear older if He wanted.  if genesis 2:4 is literal - then 'this is the account of the heavens and earth WHEN THEY WERE CREATED, in the day that the Lord God MADE HEAVEN AND EARTH.'

someone pointed that out - because before that i thought there was a discrepancy between genesis 1:1-2 and genesis 1:3.  but, i suppose dinosaurs couldn't have existed previously on no earth without a sun.  if God made the heavens AND the earth - he wasn't joking.  it wasn't just - 'oh, lets make the earth.'  He made it all.  the heavens.  the earth. the animals.  mankind.  no small feat for six days.  unless...the verse in the bible means that 'each day is as a thousand years.'  in which case the earth would have had a very minute rotation of the sun - for it to be one evening and one morning.  it would be rather strange to see the sun going at a snails pace and then when adam arrives - all of a sudden - it starts a 24 hour cycle. 

you know - just the matter of time alone proves God.  why do we still have a calendar? kinda strange wouldn't you say? if there was a proof to evolution - it would mean the calendar and time also shifted gradually over time.  i mean - animals don't know the difference and if they evolved first - the humans that evolved would have to ask them the time -  but animals don't watch the clock.  AND NOBODY WOULD KNOW WHAT THE FIRST DAY WAS OR WHEN IT STARTED.  do you realize the jews actually know when our calendar began! that is because they're supposed to keep the calendar.  i mean approximately they know the year and approximate day - and perhaps even approximate time because the first day started in the evening and then was counted fully to the next evening (which started the next day).

i see God's hands in everything.  if the earth was older than 6000 or so years - it would mean that God's timing for the millenium is wayyy off.  but, the last 1000 years is called the millenium.  it's God's week.  He works like a watchmaker.  and, nothing keeps his timing off.  so despite all the deaths in iraq - and the things that seem to be going wrong - the reason we are over there is because it's leading up to something BIG.  the return of Jesus Christ. 

You really should just shut the *** up

Thal, anyone who thinks the earth is 6000 years old isnt worth arguing with.  they are beyond all help and rationality.

[thalbergmad]

If anyone is interested, i am just going to stone my neighbour to death for working on the Sabbath. I will then torch Tesco's.

Got to carry on the good work.

Thal

[cziffra]

I would really love to but I have to stone my son to death for disobeying me

and later 2 bears are going to maul 42 children for making fun of a bald person.

PRAISE BE TO JESUS

[thalbergmad]

That is interesting, as i am just about to nail my brother to the garage wall for denying Christ as his saviour.

I am glad the Bible has taught me such tolerance.

Thal

[cziffra]

oh could you tape that for me, I want to lash my back while I watch it. 

[thalbergmad]

Glad to see there are still some "flagellants" around.

[cziffra]

Pianistimo watch that, you may find it interesting.

Everyone else watch that, you will find it hilarious

[thalbergmad]

Regretfully, i am having difficulty reading that as i have just gouged out my right eye for offending me.

I will try to watch it tonight, as tommorow i am being executed for cursing my mother because of her lumpy custard.

Harsh, but we must obey the Bible. It is soooo relevant to modern life.

Thal

[pianistimo]

cziffra,  i watched the video and did not find it compelling.  the reason being is that Jesus Christ died for our sins.  i believe that frees us from stoning anyone.  after all, Jesus said to the woman caught in adultery - go and sin no more.  if He wanted OT rules to apply to people who judge one another - then He would have been the one to cast the first stone.  but, He didn't.  mercy prevails over sin.  ie God's mercy.  that is why Jesus gained victory over Satan.

[thalbergmad]

Does this mean that i don't have to be executed tomorrow for cursing my mother?

Thal

[ahinton]

Oh, DO stop it, children! All of you! Playtime's over now and it's time for lessons again.

Please!

Anyway, all this is off-topic YET AGAIN!

Best,

Alistair

[thalbergmad]

Spoilsport.

Just having a bit of fun with Sister Susan.

Thal

[olga_janina]

Spoilsport.

Just having a bit of fun with Sister Susan.

Thal

Mr. Hinton will give you detention if you're not careful.

[thalbergmad]

Yeh, he should have been a headmaster.

Thal

[cziffra]

cziffra,  i watched the video and did not find it compelling.  the reason being is that Jesus Christ died for our sins.  i believe that frees us from stoning anyone.  after all, Jesus said to the woman caught in adultery - go and sin no more.  if He wanted OT rules to apply to people who judge one another - then He would have been the one to cast the first stone.  but, He didn't.  mercy prevails over sin.  ie God's mercy.  that is why Jesus gained victory over Satan.

So you pick and choose what you want to believe.  Or find "reasons" that it should be taken differently.

I dunno why, but when I read "stone your children" or "sell your daughter into slavery", I for some reason take it to mean that god commands you to stone your children, and condones selling you daughter into slavery.  I must be stupid or something I guess.

If I say "there is no god, jesus was a deciever, and anyone who believes in the is a fool" (which I do say), am I going to hell?  Please dont shoot around the question, do you think I am going to go to hell.  Only a one word response is required.

[cziffra]

Oh, DO stop it, children! All of you! Playtime's over now and it's time for lessons again.

Please!

Anyway, all this is off-topic YET AGAIN!

Best,

Alistair

As if you are the epitome of one who stays on topic.  You can't have both, so make up your mind.

[thalbergmad]

Only a one word response is required.

Unlikely, my prediction is nearer to 200.

Thal

[pianistimo]

cziffra,  only you can decide who is your master.  as i see it - from biblical prophecy - if you do not choose -it will be chosen for you.  now, perhaps i am quite the churchillian - but this site tells about 2007 euro history lessons for all members - so they can see the benefits of the european common market.  which,btw, will require much more 'big brothering' than God ever did.  https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/02/22/weuhistory22.xml

[pianistimo]

freedom, to me, means that God decides our fates.  excepting, of course, our justice system which is not based on antiquated laws even though one of the first acts of congress here in the usa was to publish a bible.  as i see it - 'the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness...'  is not in the european constitution.  it is a rigid structure and will become more and more rigid - as i see it.  'all men created equal?  why then picking and choosing by who is following the eu prescriptions for success.  this is not freedom.  all children of the age of 6 must be fingerprinted.  they keep files on every person?  sounds like the only thing left is to tally everyone in each country and set everything in motion.

if you want to be free - follow christians.  they are the only way to true freedom.  and they will die for what they believe.  it's not about guns so much as inalienable rights.  when people are free and happy - they don't care about guns.  but, if people see other countries arming themselves to take more and more power - it just doesn't look good.  i mean, they don't have a basis for their constitution that protects people's rights.  it just takes them away. 

we have about three different 'systems' going on.  iran - attempting to control syria - and vicariously lebanon.  russia and china in the east.  and europe.  without larger and larger 'conglomerations' - each one is threatened.  that is why i think sooner or later - the americas will unite.  but, the dangers to our borders will be the same as the dangers to europe and iran and russia and china.  sooner or later - all hell - in the middle-east.  armaggedon.

of course, it may be 233 years from now.  i don't know.  as i see the hebrew calculation of how many years since the beginning of time to Christ = 3760 + 2007= 5767 

6000-5767 = 233 years

a lot can change in world governments.  it's just that our world is so unstable right now - that anyone could push a button and literally destroy the world.  with the possibility of nuclear warfare - timing isn't really a big issue to belief that 'it can happen.'  i mean - the destruction of the world as we know it.  it isn't like - 'oh we have 200 more years.'  do we?  if God said He could 'cut short the time...'  then - it may just be He will do that.  that means - we have to live as though Jesus will return tommorrow. 

[thalbergmad]

Unlikely, my prediction is nearer to 200.

Thal

You idiot thal, it was nearer 500.

So much for a 1 word answer.

Thal

[cziffra]

how did you get through school if you cannot follow the simplest of requests.

"class, your math homework tonight is page 176 questions 3-25 odd"

next day

"class hand in your assignment"
"ummm, Susan, this is a paper on the major imports of Ghana"
"GOD WILLS IT THUS"

[pianistimo]

if everyone is so educated - why does ghana exist in poverty and war?  will the eu really help poor countries as much as they say - or simply take them over after allowing them to destroy themselves.

now, i realize the us has come under much criticism for it's 'war on terror' in iraq.  frankly, it's embarrassing to all sides that people are so out of control that nobody can get it into control excepting with the aid of iran.  then, the world will be happy?!

will the world be happy with mathematics.  with world war?  with poverty.  with famine.  with disease.  with weather disasters.  how much math will help with this?  education should exist for the whole purpose of helping mankind.  but, that is a peaceful mindset.  from God.  basically, it would deal with giving back land to farmers and letting them alone.  'swords into plowshares and spears into pruning hooks - neither shall nation lift up war against nation - and there shall not be war anymore.'

why are we travelling to planets when ghana exists the way it does. mathematics has failed.  we are counting lost limbs to landmines and poverty.  the imports are probably rice. 

don't get me wrong.  i have nothing against mathematics.  but, i think the arts and sciences and humanities belong somewhat more together.  now, globalization is supposedly helping with this.  but who will ultimately call the shots?  God?  if it isn't God - then who will it be?  some one who wants to be like God?  possibly someone who doesn't like religion at all?  so what will be the basis of this government?  it will be a dictatorship according to the bible.  and one that causes a lot of bloodshed and destruction.

[cziffra]

After that I'm sure that you're either:  A) insane beyond just believing in god so ferverently or B) the most successful spammer in the history of the internet.

Either way GTFO

[pianistimo]

you don't believe in free speech or truth?

do you realize how hitler convinced the world to do nothing?  by planning.  for a long time.  so that they would not be aware of what hit them.

if you are a boxer.  do you wait until the match to fight?  no - you are planning how to hit the opponent.  if you want to hit the european union - do not buy the euro.  no matter how much it raises above the dollar.  i will eat the dollar until i die.  the euro can go home.

now - what were we talking about?  yes. thalberg and thalbergmad are two very different and unique individuals.  one is an easy sell.  the other a hard sell.  as i see it - neither will go to hell.  and you won't either cziffra - because now you know to read the bible and think about something other than what you are taught about globalization.  it will eat you in the butt.

ok - this is how i see it.  the euro goes way above the dollar (as it is doing now). gas prices rise.  people figure the only way they can save is to buy into the euro.  wRONG.  remember valley forge.  fight for the dollar and send those euros packing east.  do you think china will buy them?

i feel so strongly about this - i almost feel i need a cigarette.  but, i don't smoke.  what happens to our world is being determined right now.  this will affect many future generations.  i suppose much of it is out of our hands.  especially if the time is now.  but, if it is 200 years from now - why become lax.  why hand the dollar over like our forefathers fought for nothing.  i want to die on a sword.