promise rings?

[le_poete_mourant]

So what's the deal with these things?  I've heard about them but nothing really specific.  How are they different from engagement rings?  Are they.. cheaper?     Anybody know anything on the subject? 

[opus10no2]

Engagement rings are (chronicles of)riddickulously priced.

[pianistimo]

i think you're right.  promise rings are for the young that will accept cheap rings.  like a 16 or 17 year old that expects to wait three years.  try that on an 18-20 year old.  they want the real thing.  the nice diamond engagement ring. 

as i see it - i plan to give a sort of promise ring to my daughter when she is 16-17.  when she looks at it - it will remind her that she is promised and holy to God.  and, i hope a virgin when she marries.  showing women they are valuable and loved is important for this age, imo.  and, that they don't soley need a boyfriend to confirm it.  and, hopefully the boyfriend will care about them as a person.

this world is so backwards, imo.  i think women should have more value than the ring.  but, the idea is that women can be bought.  how stupid is that for women to think.  no woman, in her right mind, should value herself under a million dollars.  and i don't think of this monetarily - but according to worth to God. 

[ramseytheii]

i think you're right.  promise rings are for the young that will accept cheap rings.  like a 16 or 17 year old that expects to wait three years.  try that on an 18-20 year old.  they want the real thing.  the nice diamond engagement ring. 

as i see it - i plan to give a sort of promise ring to my daughter when she is 16-17.  when she looks at it - it will remind her that she is promised and holy to God.  and, i hope a virgin when she marries.  showing women they are valuable and loved is important for this age, imo.  and, that they don't soley need a boyfriend to confirm it.  and, hopefully the boyfriend will care about them as a person.

this world is so backwards, imo.  i think women should have more value than the ring.  but, the idea is that women can be bought.  how stupid is that for women to think.  no woman, in her right mind, should value herself under a million dollars.  and i don't think of this monetarily - but according to worth to God. 

The idea that woman should be bought as property and is of less value of course comes from the Holy Book.

"And I find more bitter than death the woman, whose heart is snares and nets, and her hands as bands: whoso pleaseth God shall escape from her; but the sinner shall be taken by her." Ecclesiastes 7:26

And of course from the Decalogue:

"Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's."

Putting the woman squarely on the level of slave and ox.

The backwards morality you talk about comes from some of the msot ancient ideas recorded by man!

Walter Ramsey

[prometheus]

Pianistimo, make sure your daughter marries someone proper. Someone that knows how to treat females.


So not a fundamentalist like yourself.

[le_poete_mourant]

i think you're right.  promise rings are for the young that will accept cheap rings. 

Or can't afford expensive ones. 

[ahinton]

Susan - just stop it. Please do not drag others - least of all you own your daughter - into this terrifying Biblical vortex of others' making and your own espousal, so that the poor lass ends up finding herself having to live the rest of her life under the shadow of it all. I do not deny you your beliefs - either those that I can and do respect or those that I find derisory - but for God's (or indeed anyone's) sake please do not impose all this stuff on your own daughter in preference to allowing her to make up her own mind about things. I know well that I may be accused of speaking out of turn here, to the extent that I have no children, but that fact doesn't mean that I don't care about children. Just think about what I've said. That's all I ask.

Best,

Alistair