Can anyone identify this music? - Longer clip uploaded!!!

[the romantic]

Hello all,

I recently heard some piano music on an old TV show and I would like to know what it is!  I have extracted the audio into a little mp3 file and I'm hoping one of you will know the piece.  Unfortunately it is a very short clip, but I feel it will be recognisable to someone that knows the piece of music.  It has an 'Un Sospiro' feel to it.

Thanks a lot for any help you can give!



Martin

[the romantic]

Hi again,

Wow!  I thought one of you would have known this piece by now.  After several downloads and no response, there must be some other curious people out there now, and not just me!   

If I manage to find out what this piece is, I will post it here for everyone to know.



Martin

[soliloquy]

Sounds like Chaminade.  Only a guess though.

[retrouvailles]

Something in the key of B minor. That's all I can say.

[b0mbtrack]

find out what show it is and google that episode.

[the romantic]

I have the show right here on DVD.  It is an old episode of 'The Alfred Hitchcock Hour' called 'Isabel'.  But there are very few details available anywhere.  The only musical credit is for a 'Music Supervisor' who was Stanley Wilson.  Although there were a few composers, like Bernard Herrmann, who wrote original music for some episodes, there is no such credit for this one.

Thanks for the 'Chaminade' tip, I am currently looking into that.


Martin

[richard black]

Sounds kinda Russian to me, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if it's got a title like 'Etude' and a tempo indication like 'Allegro appassionato'. But I don't know it, and the trouble is that with a little snatch like that of a piece sounding like that it's nearly impossible to figure it out unless one simply happens to recognise it. My wife, who studied in the USSR, thought it sounds vaguely familiar which may support the 'Russian' suspicion.

I can't even offer much clue as to date - could be almost any time between 1870 and 1940, I should think. It's just possible it's some obscure bit of early Rachmaninov or even Scriabin, but I know most of their stuff....

[the romantic]

Well, I can't find any Chaminade that matches this piece, although her piano music is not the easiest to find.  It certainly could be a composer like Scriabin I guess, so I will start looking at the Russians.

This really is a mystery!  I put up a similar post at another forum and still nobody seems to know it!  Any other clues are gratefully accepted 


Martin

[ganymed]

it soudns like rachmaninov or Liadov

[gerry]

 It has an 'Un Sospiro' feel to it.

While it's entertaining to anticipate attributing this to an actual composition and known composer, it's hardly a profound bit of music--I've got to admit that it's quite a stretch from the clip you provided to Un Suspiro .  I know what would be fun--those of you with MP3 or YouTube recording capability could start a "complete this clip" contest.

[counterpoint]

it soudns like rachmaninov or Liadov

It sounds like two arpeggios... 

[the romantic]

Hey!

I just heard this same music again!  The first was from an old episode of 'The Alfred Hitchcock Hour' and today I heard the same music in a different episode of the same programme.  Unfortunately there was still no credit at the end of the episode, but I have managed to extract a far better sample to listen to.  I have attached the file and hopefully this will be easier to identify than the last!

Instead of people talking in the backround, this time we have a telephone ringing!!  Anyway, please let me know if any of you are able to identify it.  

Thanks very much,


Martin

PS Yes, that was a serious misjudgement with 'Un Sospiro'.  It is more like Chopin's Dm Prelude or his Revolutionary Etude.  But this new clip definately sounds like a much later Russian composer as many have suggested here.

[gerry]

The longer clip went on just as I predicted in terms of chord progression, etc. I'll be surprised if someone comes up with anyone other than a rather 5th-rate composer. It really sounds like a pleasant bit of written-for-TV fluff--sort of Warsaw Concerto-ish. I'd be interested to know what type of drama this music is underscoring (it wouldn't be a concert pianist with a fatal illness or suffering an unrequieted love affair would it?)

Too bad about the telephone; however, I've got to admit, I haven't heard an old-fashioned ring like that for years.

[ultraviolet]

While it's entertaining to anticipate attributing this to an actual composition and known composer, it's hardly a profound bit of music--I've got to admit that it's quite a stretch from the clip you provided to Un Suspiro .  I know what would be fun--those of you with MP3 or YouTube recording capability could start a "complete this clip" contest.

I think it sounds exactly like Un Sospiro.  It has arpeggios and a melody.  Un Sospiro means "a sigh."  Let's name this one, "un belchiro."  Agreed?

[ganymed]

https://www.musipedia.org/forum.0.html?&cat_uid=1&conf_uid=3&thread_uid=863&view=single_thread


I have also tried to post these mp3's on another forum to let it be identified by other ppl but it was to no avail unforntunately.  The only thing they did was leading me to this post in a diff board

1. https://www.classicalmusicguide.com/viewtopic.php?p=178729&sid=cc32830b1f4752b6d02f844e4777645f

2. https://forum.classicalarchives.com/cgi-bin/show.cgi?tpc=2&post=8561#POST8561

[richard black]

OK, after hearing the longer version, I'll be a monkey's uncle if it's anything other than specially-composed music by a specialist composer for films etc. It's got the obligatory Grieg-ripoff, Liszt-ripoff, Chopin-ripoff, Rachmaninoff-ripoff etc. etc. and it's written in a cod-1880s sort of style but with 1930s flourishes. No wonder it sounds slightly familiar to so many people - it's intended to! Skilfully done in its way, but kind of drivelly for all that.

[gerry]

OK, after hearing the longer version, I'll be a monkey's uncle if it's anything other than specially-composed music by a specialist composer for films etc. It's got the obligatory Grieg-ripoff, Liszt-ripoff, Chopin-ripoff, Rachmaninoff-ripoff etc. etc. and it's written in a cod-1880s sort of style but with 1930s flourishes. No wonder it sounds slightly familiar to so many people - it's intended to! Skilfully done in its way, but kind of drivelly for all that.

Not to mention, brainless and predictable chord progressions...