God tube

[rob47]

https://www.godtube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=22424cf61ae7edb98288

or "Revenge of the crazy white people"

be very afraid

[thalbergmad]

That is a very dangerous site and should be closed down.

Look at this.

https://www.godtube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=9e7c4b40cf5a13cea6ca

Clearly child abuse at its worst.

Horrific.

Thal

[ahinton]

That is a very dangerous site and should be closed down.

Then see if you can do it, Thal; I can't even imagine our P appropving of this (or can I?)...

Look at this.

But make sure you have a brown paper bag in front of you before you do.

https://www.godtube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=9e7c4b40cf5a13cea6ca

Clearly child abuse at its worst.

I don't know about "its worst", but I guess that it runs it pretty close...

Horrific.

Be afraid - be very afraid - if ever you find yourself in hospital in PA and they tell you that they want to put any "tubes" inside you...

Best,

Alistair

[arensky]

 

This is some scary sheet.

The sword people were frightening, and the little girl mind numbing...


I will keep an eye out for these people! 

[pianistimo]

'i serve a great team!'  notice these people did not use the sword literally - but they used God's Word.  it's a two-edged sword - the kind that does the most damage - for it divides the intents of the heart.  we can understand what is going on around us and are not fooled by the wiles of the devil.  (sometimes)  as i see it - that is why christians identify with soldiers.  you pick a way.  you stay the course.  you don't fear death.

now, who is the enemy?  would you rather serve him?  he does not let you pick to fight for him - but, rather uses you for his legions of demons.

[counterpoint]

Is this GW's tube? 

[pianistimo]

terrorism comes in many forms.  one is physical terrorism where a place is suddenly bombed.  one is psychological - and you cannot prepare for it unless you have the Holy Spirit.  the only way satan will leave is by using the name of Jesus Christ intentionally and seirously to wound the enemy.  that means - you have to have believed before you used it.  you can't use it like some kind of magic babble.

do you realize the power of God?

[ahinton]

we can understand what is going on around us and are not fooled by the wiles of the devil.  (sometimes)  as i see it - that is why christians identify with soldiers.

Well, that would mean that the recent statement by the head of the British army is suggestive of there being insufficient "Christians" in Afghanistan and insufficient resources to maintain those troops that are already there.

you pick a way.

You pick your way and the rest of us will each pick our own (if you'll pardon the expression).

you don't fear death.

No, I don't especially, though doubtelss for quite different reasons from your own.

now, who is the enemy?  would you rather serve him?  he does not let you pick to fight for him - but, rather uses you for his legions of demons.

I'd rather just try to get on with my work and be some kind of reasonably decent human being, thanks all the same...

Best,

Alistair

[pianistimo]

but, you don't realize - alistair, that a battle is being waged for your soul.  spirit.  whatever.  that your eternal life is at stake just as much as lazarus's rich friend.  he had a good life here - but in the next sufferred much vexation for not being able to 'go back' and choose not only to help lazarus (which you may already do - due to your kind nature) - but to believe God. a chasm separated he and lazarus.  unpassable.

[ahinton]

but, you don't realize - alistair, that a battle is being waged for your soul.

Susan, you are quite right about that; I certainly don't know any such thing and, were it true, I would counsel only that whoever may be fighting it deploy their military resources for something more appropriate.

that your eternal life is at stake just as much as lazarus's rich friend.  he had a good life here - but in the next sufferred much vexation for not being able to 'go back' and choose not only to help lazarus (which you may already do - due to your kind nature) - but to believe God. a chasm separated he and lazarus.  unpassable.

Susan, I do not know Lazarus or his friend but, even so, I take leave to challenge your remark about this "next life" thing beause I do not believe it nor do I believe that there is any evidence for it.

Best,

Alistair

[prometheus]

Jesus comes and brings a literal sword, not an symbolic/allegorical one.

[pianistimo]

'for we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities and powers....against the darkness of this world...against wickedness in high places....' 

but, you're right.  God will wage the battle for us physically speaking.  i mean, nuclear bombs are probably like bubbles in the bathtub for him.

psalms 106:47 'save us, O Lord our God, and gather us from among the nations, to give thanks to Thy holy name, and glory in Thy praise.'

[ahinton]

'for we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities and powers....against the darkness of this world...against wickedness in high places....'

But who's "we" here? Personally, I have enough to do wrestling against (I think we'd more lilely use "with" rather than "against" nowadays, to mean the sme thing) demisemiquavers and such like; there a poem by your compatriot Emily Dickinson called Musicians Wrestle Everywhere, incidentally (and it happens to have been set some 60-odd years ago by another of your compatriots, Elliott Carter).

but, you're right.  God will wage the battle for us physically speaking.

Not being of a warlike or militaristic disposition, I have to admit that I'd have no obvious reason to call upon Him to fight battles on my behalf and, in any case, I'm sure that He has better things to do with his time.

i mean, nuclear bombs are probably like bubbles in the bathtub for him.

If that's the case, I'd be well wary of sharing a bath with Him; that sounds pretty dangerous to me...

psalms 106:47 'save us, O Lord our God, and gather us from among the nations, to give thanks to Thy holy name, and glory in Thy praise.'

Here you go again, pianistimising us all with your Biblical quotations!
Psalms, 150, 11 (2007 translation): "you take the suspended cymbals and I'll take the clashed ones; God will not notice, as He has enough trouble conducting this orchestra at the best of times"...

Best,

Alistair

[pianistimo]

for all this brave talk, alistair, what are you going to do years from now on your deathbed.  just pretend that you have power over death, too?  face it - if you know now that someday you're going to die - why not have confession time now and get it over with.  then, on your death bed just say - 'take me home.'  (and not to old virginny).  what do you want to do.  jump around in limbo.  don't you want a peaceful sleep?  just kidding about limbo.  but, as i read the bible you're going to wake up in the second ressurrection and be the odd man out.  i'm going to be in a different body and you won't recognize me.  unless i let you.  then, i'm afraid i will ahve to say 'i told you so.'  then, i'll say -i wish i could take you to my mansion.  the one God built for me.  he built one for you, too - but, it's being given to someone else.  don't let your real estate go down the tubes, alistair.  think about it.

and what about the scripture that says 'pleasures forever more....' if God makes things good now- how about later after we've 'run the race.'  as i see it alstair, you need to get in shape right now for a marathon.  since it isn't aphysical race - you don't need to worry about your back.  just get your bible out.  read it every day.  even if it makes you laugh your head off.  it is just as good for you to read the bible as for me to read all that poetry you sent me from that indian guru.  as far as i can tell, he's deluded himself that there is no such thing as evil.  all is good.  that is what the devil told eve.  'you will not die.'  that in fact, she had eternity within her.  everyone will find out otherwise when it becomes evident their choices did make a difference in this daily life.  that good does triumph over evil.  not that you are evil, alistair - but that you have to search for truth by dividing it FROM evil or untruth.

[pianistimo]

if you believe there is such a thing as good and evil (which some deny - but for their own benefit) - then you must acknowledge God.  for He is a judge and said to judge the world at the appointed time.  many 'prophets' - not just Jesus (who is also the Christ) - acknowledge the 'day of the Lord.'  the dies irae.  now why would they speak of this had they not heard it from ancient times.  everyone extols the popul vuh as some sort of speech from and about the ancient gods - but why not take stock of the ones that didn't ask for human sacrifice - but the God who sacrificed HIMSELF for us?  that seems the most kind God.  He has 'redeemed us' from the adversary (death).

think about it.  if there was no penalty for sin - death - then everyone would not think that God was fair, or any sort of judge and that he was rather a weakling with no spine.  that evil could easily overpower Him and His goodness reduced to a humble speck of good in an ocean of evil.  but, that ocean is going to be lifegiving - the waters of the Holy Spirit that can renew this entire planet from war, disease, death, famine, pestilence, weather disasters, sickness, deformity, blindness, muteness, whatever!  that is why Jesus said to the samaritan woman that he could give her waters that would make her never thirst again.  that was - the Holy Spirit.  it guides us into truth so that whether we live or die now - we are alive to God and will be ressurrected and judged to life at the coming of Jesus Christ (and meet him in the clouds - being changed 'in a twinkling of an eye...at the last trumpet').

the book of life is where you want your name written in.  tell Him today - i might not believe you totally until i see it - but can you at least consider that i am reading the bible and i want to believe.  to see.  to understand and be considered clean from all my sins.  born again - as it were.  to see things from a fresh perspective.  like some kind of soap advertisement excepting cleaner.  to avoid things that stink.  to stay pure.  to destroy things you feel illconscienced about and grow and make alive things you know to be right according to the word of God.  like growing a garden and not allowing the weeds to grow up with it.  to keep pulling the weeds.

[ahinton]

for all this brave talk, alistair,

WHAT "brave talk"? I'm not aware of having done any.

what are you going to do years from now on your deathbed.

Well, assuming that I will know at that time that I AM on my deathbed, I imagine that the only possible answer to that will be "not a lot".

just pretend that you have power over death, too?

Whjy on earth would I pretend that? - and, for that matter, why on earth would you assume that I would pretned that?

face it - if you know now that someday you're going to die

I've never doubted it!

why not have confession time now and get it over with.

Ah, this is where it's all been leading, has it?! To what do you want me to confess, Susan? And to whom? And even if I were to obliged, what would happen about anything that I do between then and my death that might also require "confession"?

then, on your death bed just say - 'take me home.' (and not to old virginny).

If I were dying in a hospital I might just say that, so that I could instead die at home (assuming that I was well enough to say it at all).

what do you want to do.  jump around in limbo.  don't you want a peaceful sleep?  just kidding about limbo.

I should hope so. I don't know if limbo dancing involves jumping around, anyway; I expect you know whether and to what extent pole dancing does, though (just thought I'd mention that to raise the tone abit, you understand)...

but, as i read the bible you're going to wake up in the second ressurrection and be the odd man out.

I admit that it's rather a long time since I've read the Bible now but I thought that, in spite of the tricks that memory can play on one, I'm absolutely certain that I'd have remembered if there was, as you now tell me, a reference to me anywhere in it (I would also have been puzzled by it in a 2,00-year-old collection of volumes). But this whole business of me waking up in second resurrections is purely down to your take on Biblical texts, no more, no less...

i'm going to be in a different body and you won't recognize me.  unless i let you.

But I wouldn;t recognise you in your present body, seeing as i have never yet clapped eyes on it!

then, i'm afraid i will ahve to say 'i told you so.'

You'd enjoy that, wouldn't you!

then, i'll say -i wish i could take you to my mansion.  the one God built for me.  he built one for you, too - but, it's being given to someone else.

If that happened, I'd get my lawyers to look into the contract and ensure that the deeds were correctly drafted in my favour - or I might just pass on it, say thank you very much and go find an architect, builder, etc. to design and build another - except, of course, that I won;t be alive t the time, so none of it will actually happen outside your Biblically-oriented imagination.

don't let your real estate go down the tubes, alistair.  think about it.

If some of your dodgy American sub-prime mortgage deals really cathc the financial world alight, we might find that all of our real estate goes down the tubes!

and what about the scripture that says 'pleasures forever more....' if God makes things good now- how about later after we've 'run the race.'

What race is this? Oh dear, I can somehow sense that you're abot to tell me...

as i see it alstair, you need to get in shape right now for a marathon.

OK, I guess that you're at least right about that - I probably do need to get in shape abit, since I'm arguably not as fit as I ought to be...

since it isn't aphysical race - you don't need to worry about your back.  just get your bible out.  read it every day.  even if it makes you laugh your head off.  it is just as good for you to read the bible as for me to read all that poetry you sent me from that indian guru.

Which one was that? The texts I sent you are from a wide variety of sources, many of them not of Indian origin and I did not intend either that you should single one out for comment or "read it every day". And in any case why do you wnat me to read the Bible every day? What else will you start telling me to do with my time?

as far as i can tell, he's deluded himself that there is no such thing as evil.  all is good.  that is what the devil told eve.  'you will not die.'  that in fact, she had eternity within her.  everyone will find out otherwise when it becomes evident their choices did make a difference in this daily life.  that good does triumph over evil.  not that you are evil, alistair - but that you have to search for truth by dividing it FROM evil or untruth.

Here endeth yet another lesson...

Best,

Alistair

[ahinton]

if you believe there is such a thing as good and evil (which some deny - but for their own benefit) - then you must acknowledge God.

You're geting more and more adept at telling me what I have to do, are you not? When did I ever do that to you?

for He is a judge and said to judge the world at the appointed time.  many 'prophets' - not just Jesus (who is also the Christ) - acknowledge the 'day of the Lord.'  the dies irae.

"Dies iræ" does not mean "day of the Lord"; it means "day of wrath.

at the last trumpet.

Would you also now have me take trumpet lessons, just in case a suitable player cannot be found at the time?

the book of life is where you want your name written in.  tell Him today - i might not believe you totally until i see it - but can you at least consider that i am reading the bible and i want to believe.  to see.  to understand and be considered clean from all my sins.  born again - as it were.  to see things from a fresh perspective.  like some kind of soap advertisement excepting cleaner.  to avoid things that stink.  to stay pure.  to destroy things you feel illconscienced about and grow and make alive things you know to be right according to the word of God.  like growing a garden and not allowing the weeds to grow up with it.  to keep pulling the weeds.

Words fail me!...

Best,

Alistair

[pianistimo]

sorry, alistair!  i am not telling you what to do - as much as letting you be aware of your circumstances.  you see, the devil has concocted a plan.  it is to deceive the world.  not just a few nice people.  so - he started with the idea that man is fully capable of ruling himself and doesn't need God.  i suppose, in truth, that was part of the 'sturm und drang' movement.  the dark side.  in fact, one of the artists of that period actually drew what appears to be a man on a dark horse with a scythe.  forget who that was.  youmight know to whom i am referring.  anyways - we have this wonderful movement towards 'progress' and the industrial revolution - and at the same time believing that what we threw away (religion and belief in God) was most helpful to this progress.

but, as we see it now - it has not necessarily helped our world.  there is still poverty, crime, not enough smart farming, wasted water, wasted money, wasted government bureaucracy.  what if...that was gone in a day!  that's the 'dies irae' - or day of wrath as you aptly said.  everything evil destroyed in a day.  that includes the illuminati - of whom many believers in this dark side - have been and are in government and working right now for a one world government.  to believe that (as masons) somehow losing an internal organ and placing it on the beach to be some kind of voodoo for success.  may as well read the popul vuh a thousand times and say amen.  why cut yourself up to be a 33rd degree mason?  well, no matter.  one of them could be out cold and let a doctor at a hospital do it for them.  how many of these unnecessary procedures have been performed?  at the expense of insurance.  for what?  superstition?  THAT's BAD RELIGION.

[thalberg]

I must be strange because I did not find that video offensive in the least.

I mean, the sword was not direct at anyone at all, so it's not like it was hateful.  It was just a bunch of people holding swords in one position or waving them at thin air.  What's the problem?

[mephisto]

I must be strange because I did not find that video offensive in the least.

I mean, the sword was not direct at anyone at all, so it's not like it was hateful.  It was just a bunch of people holding swords in one position or waving them at thin air.  What's the problem?

I agree.

[ahinton]

sorry, alistair!  i am not telling you what to do - as much as letting you be aware of your circumstances.

And you, despite never having met me or even heard a note of my music, know precisely what those circumstanes are, or so you seem to be trying to persuade me!

you see, the devil has concocted a plan.  it is to deceive the world.  not just a few nice people.  so - he started with the idea that man is fully capable of ruling himself and doesn't need God.  i suppose, in truth, that was part of the 'sturm und drang' movement.  the dark side.  in fact, one of the artists of that period actually drew what appears to be a man on a dark horse with a scythe.  forget who that was.  youmight know to whom i am referring.  anyways - we have this wonderful movement towards 'progress' and the industrial revolution - and at the same time believing that what we threw away (religion and belief in God) was most helpful to this progress.

Sorry, Susan, you are talking utter rubbish again, but at least I can understand what that rubbish is this time around. Your implication here is that those who have created governmental systems, for all their shortcomings and fallibilities, not to mention those who have made scientific discoveries and spearheaded developments of all kinds, are or have become exclusively irreligious; that is patently false, especially though not exclusively in the Muslim world.

but, as we see it now - it has not necessarily helped our world.

As YOU see it - not as "we" see it.

there is still poverty, crime, not enough smart farming, wasted water, wasted money, wasted government bureaucracy.

I have never suggested otherwise, but would you really have us all believe that all of this is purely down to man's governmental systems and industrial developments? Let's fact it, if there had not been ANY scientific developments, no one would ever hav been able to write and publish such as we have of the Bible!

what if...that was gone in a day!  that's the 'dies irae' - or day of wrath as you aptly said.  everything evil destroyed in a day.

What "evil", Susan? Man-made governments and industrial developments? ALL of them?

that includes the illuminati - of whom many believers in this dark side - have been and are in government and working right now for a one world government.  to believe that (as masons) somehow losing an internal organ and placing it on the beach to be some kind of voodoo for success.  may as well read the popul vuh a thousand times and say amen.  why cut yourself up to be a 33rd degree mason?  well, no matter.  one of them could be out cold and let a doctor at a hospital do it for them.  how many of these unnecessary procedures have been performed?  at the expense of insurance.  for what?  superstition?  THAT's BAD RELIGION.

Well, you said it - that last bit, I mean!

Best,

Alistair

[pianistimo]

madame blavatsky did nothing to stop this problem.  perhaps, i should like to say that if it weren't for all the masonic garbage in government - we might actually have a government that works for the people instead of one that values secrecy over logic.  while they are getting paid to have all this wierd fun - we are working hard and paying taxes (which ever increase).  may a lasting curse be on you, ms. blavatsky.

here's more about bad religion:
https://www.sfaturiortodoxe.ro/orthodox/orthodox_advices_d.htm

of course, worshipping idols is also a no-no.

i am not telling people which church to go to.  simply which God to worship.  ms. blavatsky openly advised people to worship satan as the creator.

[ahinton]

madame blavatsky did nothing to stop this problem.

Which particular problem are you now talking about? And was she really solely responsible for it, whatever it was?

perhaps, i should like to say that if it weren't for all the masonic garbage in government - we might actually have a government that works for the people instead of one that values secrecy over logic.

But whatever makes you think that all governmental secrecy has a masonic source? Do remember that you are talking only about governments in voutries where there is sufficient of a Christian element for masonic input into their governments even to be possible, let alone hold sway.

while they are getting paid to have all this wierd fun - we are working hard and paying taxes (which ever increase).  may a lasting curse be on you, ms. blavatsky.

Taxes generally increase everywhere.

I see that you're now dispensing curses as well as belabouring us all with your Biblically oriented outpourings, telling me how to run my life, raising three children, doing all the domestic chores that you do, practising the piano and writing tens of thousands of posts on here (do you also belong to any other internet fora, by chance?) - not to mention those pole-dancing sessions; what a busy life you lead, Susan!

Best,

Alistair

[pianistimo]

christian element?  i say the Lord is out of this garbage.  unfortunately, it is (the illuminati ideas) tied into mystical elements from many world religions that worship a different I AM. here's madame blavatsky's take:

https://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/sd/sd1-2-01.htm

satan thinks he's 'all that.'  but, if he has to go to this much trouble with what is truth and what is symbology (i'd say most of it is symbology) - then the bible is surely more literally true than all this garbage.  and, of course, works far better because it is simpler.  we worship the true 'corner stone.'  one prayer to God thru the true cornerstone- Jesus Christ - done!

[ahinton]

christian element?  i say the Lord is out of this garbage.  unfortunately, it is (the illuminati ideas) tied into mystical elements from many world religions that worship a different I AM. here's madame blavatsky's take:

https://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/sd/sd1-2-01.htm

satan thinks he's 'all that.'  but, if he has to go to this much trouble with what is truth and what is symbology (i'd say most of it is symbology) - then the bible is surely more literally true than all this garbage.  and, of course, works far better because it is simpler.  we worship the true 'corner stone.'  one prayer to God thru the true cornerstone- Jesus Christ - done!

ps and curses be to government officials wasting money this way.  in fact, may a curse settle on each and every masonic lodge from today forward until the return of Jesus Christ.

Well, you really ARE dispensing curses today, are you not! Well - if that's what does it for you, then curse away, I suppose. That said, the sheer narrow-mindedness that admits of no atheism, no agnosticism and no other faith than that of Christianty in the particular form that you happen to have chosen to subscribe to it just doesn't do it for most of us and, as I've said before, can be taken as profoundly insulting to devout followers of other faiths.

Enough!

Best,

Alistair

[thalberg]

christian element?  i say the Lord is out of this garbage.  unfortunately, it is (the illuminati ideas) tied into mystical elements from many world religions that worship a different I AM. here's madame blavatsky's take:

https://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/sd/sd1-2-01.htm

satan thinks he's 'all that.'  but, if he has to go to this much trouble with what is truth and what is symbology (i'd say most of it is symbology) - then the bible is surely more literally true than all this garbage.  and, of course, works far better because it is simpler.  we worship the true 'corner stone.'  one prayer to God thru the true cornerstone- Jesus Christ - done!

ps and curses be to government officials wasting money this way.  in fact, may a curse settle on each and every masonic lodge from today forward until the return of Jesus Christ.

I clicked your link.  How on Earth do you have the time for that sort of reading?  My goodness!  I could master all the Chopin Etudes with that kind of time.   

[thalbergmad]

i am not telling people which church to go to.  simply which God to worship. 

Oh, you are telling us now. That is the problem with bonehead blinkered Christians like yourself.
No doubt that poor young girl was force fed similar nonsense and will have no choice in her life.

Why don't you just accept that not everybody shares your belief and some for very good reasons. By telling us what God to worship, are you saying that millions of people that worship other Gods are wrong?

Your consistent pathetic incoherent blabbering has done more to put me off Christianty, than the morons that i encountered in an Alpha group.

Might i suggest that you utilise what is left of your single remaining brain cell for more incoherent posts in other threads.

Thal

[pianistimo]

what you consider incoherent is christianity.  what you have not done is follow the initiation rites of masons which is BLABBERING.  some kid, after being bored of the local lodges pancake breakfast got an eyefull of some initiation rite of the lodge his father was a 'grand master' in (or some such name) - and was forever 'blinkered' from the experience.  do you even know what blinkered means, thal?

when a person prays to God, it's simple.  now, take harry potter, madame blavtsky, and a bunch of masonic rite minded tassle freaks and tell me i'm blinkered. 

satanists are blinkered.  and if you don't take the time to read about them, well i guess you'll never know.  but, it's not true what they say about 'what you never know won't hurt you.'  yes it will.  your letting your mind be the property of someone else's 'hogwash.'  or 'hogwart.'  what a name!  they even call it the proper name.

and, you can't join some of these if you were 'born a slave.'  what does that mean?  is the KKK part of this?  tell me i'm blinkered - but i didn't make up these so-called 'rules.'  who makes up these rules for masons?  BLINKERED PEOPLE. 

thal - i bet you don't even know the 'knights of columbus' are a religious order.  they're seeking to bring catholics back into the fold. if you are so for abortion - why don't you sit your blinkered lights into one of their meetings and declare abortion the rightful property of a woman's body.  but, then, again -you don't know which side you are on.

ok.  there's secret societies everywhere.  WHY ARE THEY KEEPING SECRETS?  that is my point.  THERE IS NOTHING SECRETIVE ABOUT THE GOSPEL.  if you have to be keeping secrets, you're in the wrong church, organization, or religion.  tell me- has anyone truthful ever asked you to keep a load of secrets.  no.  that's what liars do.

and btw, christians don't keep jars of their innards for display.

[thalbergmad]

What the hell are you talking about now, you must have a screw loose. It is the way you talk about Christianity that is incoherent.

The rest of your post proves that your medication is not working.

What Harry Potter, Madame Blavatsky and the masons has to do with this thread is beyond me and probaby beyond you as well.

You are the most blinkered, incoherent, idiotic, single celled, fundamentalist, tambo banger i have ever come across.

A jelly fish could write more sense than you.

Thal

[pianistimo]

i am warning you and anyone else to keep their soul to themselves.  look, haydn and mozart joined these blazing masonic orders - and had to dispense their skull to one part of the city, their innards to another, and their bones somewhere else.  what for? 

blinkered ideas.

abraham was buried in a cave.  done with.  unless someone was a grave digger - he was unbothered.

talk about blinkered people!  messing with cadavers (putting brains in a jar), necromancy, idiot talk.  this is what posessed people do.  did you know jack the ripper was a mason?  what do you think he intended to do with his victims?  cut them up for what?  some kind of 'masonic jar' saving of their innards?  did you know it used to be they'd also save the cut off hand of a murderer - thinking it had magical power.  now that's BLINKERED.

[pianistimo]

does anyone here know the meaning of TRUTH?

[thalbergmad]

i am warning you and anyone else to keep their soul to themselves.  look, haydn and mozart joined these blazing masonic orders - and had to dispense their skull to one part of the city, their innards to another, and their bones somewhere else.  what for? 

blinkered ideas.

abraham was buried in a cave.  done with.  unless someone was a grave digger - he was unbothered.

talk about blinkered people!  messing with cadavers (putting brains in a jar), necromancy, idiot talk.  this is what posessed people do.  did you know jack the ripper was a mason?  what do you think he intended to do with his victims?  cut them up for what?  some kind of 'masonic jar' saving of their innards?  did you know it used to be they'd also save the cut off hand of a murderer - thinking it had magical power.  now that's BLINKERED.

The most idiotic rubbish i have ever heard anywhere.

Warning people now are you.

Pathetic mono celled idiocy.

Thal

[thalbergmad]

thal - i bet you don't even know the 'knights of columbus' are a religious order.  they're seeking to bring catholics back into the fold. if you are so for abortion - why don't you sit your blinkered lights into one of their meetings and declare abortion the rightful property of a woman's body.  but, then, again -you don't know which side you are on.

What is your point pea brain?

[pianistimo]

mono?  is that what you are now calling me.  a monotheist.  yes.  but, mono?  that sounds like i have a kissing disease.  would you like it if i was to call you polly?  for polytheist?  if you were.  which you are not.  because your mother raised you right.

my point, thal - if you would listen - is that some of these so-called religions are nothing but secret societies of blinkered people that claim to have relics and freaky powers.  and, if you want to advance degrees - you have to do something wierd to get it.   

God is logical. everything He does has a purpose.  it's not secret.  and, you don't have to advance by degrees. 

[thalbergmad]

did you know jack the ripper was a mason?  what do you think he intended to do with his victims?  cut them up for what?  some kind of 'masonic jar' saving of their innards? 

Did you know that i have read over 40 books on Jack the Ripper and know more about him than you will ever know.

If you are referring to the bollox Stephen Knight wrote, you might think he was, but this nonesense was shown to be a fraud perpetuated by the Son of the painter called Walter Sickert.

Again, you point is a mystery to me.

Thal

[thalbergmad]

mono?  is that what you are now calling me.   

Yeh, mono cell.

[pianistimo]

calling people names does nothing for logic.  tell me what you think is the most logical thing you ever heard?  (i suppose it is using your longbow on people you disagree with).

don't feel badly if you must be part of some kind of sorority of secret jack-the-ripper lovers.  frankly it doesn't scare me - and i find it funny.  especially since, if you knew me - i could do you in with one prayer.  'dear Lord, make him into the frog that he is.'  then, i would kiss you on the cheek and you'd be motionless for half a day before turning 20 lbs lighter and donning the 'prince' suit that my daughter's ken used to have.  i'd still have to turn you down - being that i'm a married woman - but you could tempt me by waving music that i don't posess in front of me.

[thalbergmad]

my point, thal - if you would listen - is that some of these so-called religions are nothing but secret societies of blinkered people that claim to have relics and freaky powers.  and, if you want to advance degrees - you have to do something wierd to get it.   

Well, apart from the word "secret", that is an excellent description of Christianty.

1. Blinkered: perfect description
2. Relics: Shroud of Turin, St James foreskin and other fraudulant trash.
3. Freaky powers: I went to a Baptist meeting where they tried to heal someone by laying on of the hands. What utter bollocks.
4. Do something weird: another perfect description. To be someone like you, you have to believe in a silly little book of edited stories. You have to display ignorance about other religious writings, iognorance about books left out of the bible and even more ignorance about science. In other words, you have to abandon all reason and throw your brain out of the window.

You are the most blinkered,and ignorant person i have ever cpme across and i actually feel sorry for you that you will go though the rest of your life in cloud cuckoo land.

Thal

[thalbergmad]

i suppose it is using your longbow on people you disagree with

The longbow was a weapon used to great effect by Christians to kill Muslims.

It is the Christian way to kill people that they don't agree with, not mine.

Although in your case i am tempted.

Thal

[thalbergmad]

don't feel badly if you must be part of some kind of sorority of secret jack-the-ripper lovers.  frankly it doesn't scare me - and i find it funny. 

I am not a part of anything, i have just read a lot of books on the subject, whereas you have not.

How you would find it funny is again beyond me.

Thal

[thalbergmad]

especially since, if you knew me - i could do you in with one prayer.  'dear Lord, make him into the frog that he is.'  then, i would kiss you on the cheek and you'd be motionless for half a day before turning 20 lbs lighter and donning the 'prince' suit that my daughter's ken used to have.  i'd still have to turn you down - being that i'm a married woman - but you could tempt me by waving music that i don't posess in front of me.

Pointless garbage

[zheer]

be very afraid

   Your kidding right,  Hitler was correct when he said christianity is the religion of the weekling. Judging by that clip, it's an American thing , and we all know that the American have never won a single battle in their entire pathetic history. NOT A SINGLE BATTLE.
     

[pianistimo]

zheer, if we never won a single battle how come germany was defeated in WWII.  you are rewriting history.  do you want to lose stars?

as i see it - if you want to win anything - win over God.  then, He'll fight the battle.  many times in the several world wars - there was divine intervention.  ask any soldier that's still alive or read some memoirs.  i'm not saying God doesn't help both sides - but He's always for freedom.  He didn't create us to be under the likes of saddam hussein.  the real enemy is not nationalities - but leaderships that are corrupt.

[zheer]

zheer, if we never won a single battle how come germany was defeated in WWII.  you are rewriting history.  do you want to lose stars?

  Ahm, Russia won the war, the red army.

[pianistimo]

they won the booty after we won the war.  the tripes.  i think it was fairly unfair what they took - but hey, hitler started the whole durn thing. 

what you fail to see is that we were in arms race and the arms did the talking.  americans sacrificed a lot to make sure all the planes, tanks, amphibious creations were made, worked, and shipped at lightening speed.  would russia have saved the world?  it would have been made into a satellite country of russia.  is that what you want zheer?

 

[zheer]

  Rubbish , Churchill had a rough time convincing the US that Hitler was a real threat, Russia, and the Uk were the ones who who fought and won the war.

  Yup the only thing the U.S has is an attomic Bomb.
   
   It was Russia and its military strength that save Europe from Hitlerizm.

[pianistimo]

prove to me that russia was fighting germany on any soil but it's own.  were they saving auschwitz camp survivors, or dauchau camp survivors.  how come they were still there when we got there?

[zheer]

       Prove to you what, that the red army went in and defeated Nazi Germany, it's a fact, its even filmed, flipping heck even Hitler mentioned that the Russians were wining the war.

[pianistimo]

on german soil?  ha!  they retreated and were somewhat in tatters because stalin didn't warn them before 1941 that they might need to fight to defend their country.  and, fight they did - valiantly - but not before and after stalin's own purges of his own country.  they didn't know what they were fighting for.  some just froze or starved to death.  why?  because stalin was a dictator.  just like in germany - it was a nation divided.  things weren't good before the war and certainly no better afterwards.

they made a good stand in moscow, stalingrad, and kursk - and of course, when allies helped them - defeated poland and hungary and eastern bloc countries they wanted to posess.  for what?  to turn them into eastern bloc starved and confused citizens.  not free.  under stalin's dictatorship.

americans had energy because they were free citizens and knew what they were fighting for.

do you wonder what the world would be like today had saddam hussein remained in power?  stalin, hitler, saddam - they're all dictators and killed millions of their OWN people.  stalin didn't go into poland to save aushwitz camp survivors.  they came to take some booty.  if they helped release prisoners - it was for publicity. the world was watching.  anti-semitism has always been  a part of russia and many russian jews fled during the war years.  england and america are the only countries that truly stood up for the jews.  immigration numbers prove it.

[zheer]

americans had energy because they were free citizens and knew what they were fighting for.