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Offline soliloquy

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This is not a word
on: September 23, 2007, 12:47:41 AM
"Amerika".

"Realpolitik" is a word.  "Amerika" is not.  Spelling America "Amerika" is not really even mildly politikal.  Bare in mind, I am not even a tiny bit patriotic; I just can't stand crap.

Changing C's to K's does not make you look hip, cool, intellectual, philosophical or sociologically versed.  It makes you look pseudo-intellectual and pseudo-philosophical.  Pseudo means fake, by the way.  I'm not trying to single out ramsey, who happens to have a thread with "Amerika" in the title at the moment, as I have seen it popping up more and more on here lately.  That just sort of reminded me.

If you spell America like "Amerika", you better be from Russia or Poland or something.  Otherwise, why don't you go listen to Rage Against the Machine and get a tattoo of a bar-code on the back of your neck, for the sole purpose of trying to get people to ask you "why the hell did you get that ugly tattoo?" and then you can go, as you suck on a fat blunt, "Dude, because like... America turns us into machines.  We're becoming serialized as we lose our identities and are forced to conform to the ultimate ego-mass.  Whoops, did I say America?  I meant 'Amerika'."


It's the same sort of people that thought spelling America wrong that will be having a normal conversation with you and then suddenly go "Oh by the way I'm reading something by Michel Foucault.  It's very good." 



Psshh, no you're not.  And even if you are, you don't understand it.  Besides, I doubt many of the pseudo-pseudo-intellectuals who use the word "Amerika" even vote; they're just pampered white kids whose parents probably voted for Bush anyway.  Way to do something about it.  Your clique improper grammar will pave the way for individualism and put a stop to war.  Yes, that's the way to do it.

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Re: This is not a word
Reply #1 on: September 23, 2007, 01:12:34 AM
"Amerika".

"Realpolitik" is a word.  "Amerika" is not.  Spelling America "Amerika" is not really even mildly politikal.  Bare in mind, I am not even a tiny bit patriotic; I just can't stand crap.

Changing C's to K's does not make you look hip, cool, intellectual, philosophical or sociologically versed.  It makes you look pseudo-intellectual and pseudo-philosophical.  Pseudo means fake, by the way.  I'm not trying to single out ramsey, who happens to have a thread with "Amerika" in the title at the moment, as I have seen it popping up more and more on here lately.  That just sort of reminded me.

If you spell America like "Amerika", you better be from Russia or Poland or something.  Otherwise, why don't you go listen to Rage Against the Machine and get a tattoo of a bar-code on the back of your neck, for the sole purpose of trying to get people to ask you "why the hell did you get that ugly tattoo?" and then you can go, as you suck on a fat blunt, "Dude, because like... America turns us into machines.  We're becoming serialized as we lose our identities and are forced to conform to the ultimate ego-mass.  Whoops, did I say America?  I meant 'Amerika'."


It's the same sort of people that thought spelling America wrong that will be having a normal conversation with you and then suddenly go "Oh by the way I'm reading something by Michel Foucault.  It's very good." 



Psshh, no you're not.  And even if you are, you don't understand it.  Besides, I doubt many of the pseudo-pseudo-intellectuals who use the word "Amerika" even vote; they're just pampered white kids whose parents probably voted for Bush anyway.  Way to do something about it.  Your clique improper grammar will pave the way for individualism and put a stop to war.  Yes, that's the way to do it.

Well, thank you for that rant.  I like a good rant.  I often rant myself.

But, get a towel ready to wipe egg off your face.

The intentional misspelling of "Amerika" is an ironic glance at the German language.  The onetime, great admirers of fascism known, lovingly, as Nazis.  Aware of them?  Get it?

No one wants to be "hip."  "Hip" isn't ironic.  It's just the latest thing.  It's the boring narcotic of people who are under 21.  We're after irony here.  Shall I go on?  Or have you understood?
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Re: This is not a word
Reply #2 on: September 23, 2007, 01:14:37 AM
CMGWND!!!!1!
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Re: This is not a word
Reply #4 on: September 23, 2007, 01:28:11 AM
Merci, monsieur.
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Re: This is not a word
Reply #5 on: September 23, 2007, 02:34:44 AM
soliloquy - forget anne coulter.  you are my next spokesperson.  a true blue 'say what you mean' person.  i couldn't agree more. 

ps i liked that bar-code on back of neck joke, too.

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Reply #6 on: September 23, 2007, 03:41:23 AM
soliloquy - forget anne coulter.  you are my next spokesperson.  a true blue 'say what you mean' person.  i couldn't agree more. 

ps i liked that bar-code on back of neck joke, too.

Are you aware that political commentator Anne Coulter is the unofficial spokeswoman for the neo-Fascist movement in Amerika?  That she was recently criticized in the American media for calling an American presidential hopeful -- on a national forum -- a "faggot?"

Ironically, soliloquy and you had a bitter thread exchange on homophobia not so many months ago.  You quoted the Bible and condemned him, basically, to hell.

Now, you selected him for an ally? 

I don't think he'll buy it.

Pianistimo, you need help.  I suggest you get it.
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Re: This is not a word
Reply #7 on: September 23, 2007, 04:11:09 AM
I think we should start spelling it Amerique because truth to be told, we're all acting like a bunch of French people.  As time goes on, we get more arrogant, drink more wine, and stink more.  Every day.  Plus, we care so much more about style than we used to.  The only think un-French about us is how fat we all are. 

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Re: This is not a word
Reply #8 on: September 23, 2007, 04:25:09 AM
I think we should start spelling it Amerique because truth to be told, we're all acting like a bunch of French people.  As time goes on, we get more arrogant, drink more wine, and stink more.  Every day.  Plus, we care so much more about style than we used to.  The only think un-French about us is how fat we all are. 

Ah, there you are again.  Using the royal "we," when, of course, you mean "us."

Pianistimo will probably view you as an ally.  Why, on earth, do you hate the French?
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Re: This is not a word
Reply #9 on: September 23, 2007, 07:40:24 AM
In norwegian its "Amerika"  8)
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Re: This is not a word
Reply #10 on: September 23, 2007, 08:52:49 AM
Well, thank you for that rant.  I like a good rant.  I often rant myself.

You're welcome.


But, get a towel ready to wipe egg off your face.

Prepare to wipe crap off your face.  Eg. the crap coming out of your mouth.


The intentional misspelling of "Amerika" is an ironic glance at the German language.  The onetime, great admirers of fascism known, lovingly, as Nazis.  Aware of them?  Get it?

The intentional misspelling of "America" into "Amerika" is to imply that since Bush's (I'm a democrat, btw, just to clear it up) tenure as president has turned America into a Fascist state.  If you think it is just a pun, with no connotation pertaining to anything, then you are being misled, and using it in a completely different way than everyone else.  And it is, of course, not just people on here that are doing it.  It has become "fashionable" if you will.  So, if you don't feel America has become Fascist, stop misspelling it (assuming you do), because that is what it conveys.

And if you DO understand this is the connotation, then what the hell are you arguing with me about?  Because that's exactly what I said it was.  I'm sorry if you don't understand the connotation of my dystopian allusions, but there you go.

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Re: This is not a word
Reply #11 on: September 23, 2007, 10:19:32 AM
I am sure there are more languages that have 'amerika' rather than 'america'.


So you aren't only wrong about 'amerika' not being a word. You would not only be wrong if you say that 'amerika' is not a proper word. But you are just wrong all the way.
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Re: This is not a word
Reply #12 on: September 23, 2007, 10:33:09 AM
The intentional misspelling of "Amerika" is an ironic glance at the German language.  The onetime, great admirers of fascism known, lovingly, as Nazis.  Aware of them?  Get it?
Please, do not equate the german language with nazism.
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It's the same sort of people that thought spelling America wrong that will be having a normal conversation with you and then suddenly go "Oh by the way I'm reading something by Michel Foucault.  It's very good."
If anyone, Foucault is a pseudo-intellectual!
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Re: This is not a word
Reply #13 on: September 23, 2007, 10:56:50 AM
Perhaps putting in K's instead of C's will replace the consistent replacing of s's with Z's.

I will give it a go.

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Re: This is not a word
Reply #14 on: September 23, 2007, 11:46:23 AM
Perhaps putting in K's instead of C's will replace the consistent replacing of s's with Z's.

I will give it a go.

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Re: This is not a word
Reply #15 on: September 23, 2007, 06:36:56 PM
I am sure there are more languages that have 'amerika' rather than 'america'.


So you aren't only wrong about 'amerika' not being a word. You would not only be wrong if you say that 'amerika' is not a proper word. But you are just wrong all the way.

"Amerika" is not a word in English.

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=define%3Aamerika


Maybe you would be more comfortable enveloped in Proust than Foucault, considering the inane samantic/pedantic BS you think is somehow applicable 8)  Who do you think you are?  Burgess?


And by the way, I doubt more languages use Amerika than America, not that it matters whatsoever.  Do you have any proof of your assertion here?

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Re: This is not a word
Reply #16 on: September 23, 2007, 06:40:43 PM
If anyone, Foucault is a pseudo-intellectual!

That was the joke :P  That's why pseudo changed to pseudo-pseudo after that reference.

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Re: This is not a word
Reply #17 on: September 23, 2007, 06:57:25 PM
soliloquy - forget anne coulter.  you are my next spokesperson.  a true blue 'say what you mean' person.  i couldn't agree more. 

I hope your spokesperson is not Ann Coulter!  She doesn't just "say it like she means", she IS mean.  She knows her schtick will raise hackles, so she just spews garbage for attention.  You couldn't pay me to cross the street to hear her.

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Re: This is not a word
Reply #18 on: September 23, 2007, 07:47:35 PM
"Amerika" is not a word in English.

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considering the inane samantic/pedantic BS

Neither is "samantic," ironically...

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Re: This is not a word
Reply #19 on: September 23, 2007, 09:50:25 PM
Neither is "samantic," ironically...

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I wasn't going to say anything, in the now evidently well-founded assumption that someone else could surely be relied upon to do so instead ! Which said - what's the German for "Canada", then? No substituting of a "K" for the "C" there, surely? Someone once said to me that every Québecois/e knows where Montréal is, but none seems to be certain of the location of the unreal one. But then let's not get unduly soliloquacious over such things...

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Re: This is not a word
Reply #20 on: September 23, 2007, 11:00:47 PM
But then let's not get unduly soliloquacious over such things...

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Indeed, let's leave soliloquaciousness (soliloquacity?) to the experts, comme Zuzan.

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Re: This is not a word
Reply #21 on: September 23, 2007, 11:28:56 PM
Indeed, let's leave soliloquaciousness (soliloquacity?) to the experts, comme Zuzan.

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"Soliloquacité" it is, je crois, mon cher, it seems - and I am no expert in French, but then, as a Québecois musicologue once observed to me, the Québecois have no French cultural traditions of any kind, just the language which, I am told, is nevertheless incomprehensible to the French themselves other than to those who happen to live in the north-east of the Charente and have very long memories...

Back to topic, perhaps(!)...

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Re: This is not a word
Reply #22 on: September 25, 2007, 10:21:09 PM
Ah, there you are again.  Using the royal "we," when, of course, you mean "us."

Pianistimo will probably view you as an ally.  Why, on earth, do you hate the French?

I do not understand what you mean by we/us.  One is a subject, the other is an object, that's all I know.  Other than that, I do not have the pleasure of understanding you.

Why do I hate the French?  Well, for starters, they don't clean up after their dogs who sh*t in the street.  Then there's all the nuclear power they're always using.  Plus the fact they put antifreeze in all their wine and send it to America.  The list is just too long.

And, cmg, you might act like you're above hating anyone, but if you drove a French car, you'd hate them in no time. 

And I would also like to add that I don't hate whole countries.  I am reasonable.

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Re: This is not a word
Reply #23 on: September 25, 2007, 11:14:20 PM
"Amerika" is not a word in English.


If 'Amerika' is not a word in English then what is it? A sentence? An essay? Clearly it is a word, be it an incorrect one, a misspelled one or just a brand new one.
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Re: This is not a word
Reply #24 on: September 25, 2007, 11:31:59 PM
Neither is "samantic," ironically...

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AHAHAHHAH!!!  You're going to defend someone's semantics and pedantry by noting my typo?

I don't think anything anyone could have done would have more solidified my, how you say, correctness :P (and yes, correctness is a word)  Not to mention done something more immature.


If 'Amerika' is not a word in English then what is it? A sentence? An essay? Clearly it is a word, be it an incorrect one, a misspelled one or just a brand new one.

Fine.  You know what else is a word?  Quijibo.  I just used it, so it's a word.  And you wanna know what else is a word?  Fardlehardleshooooop-ba.  There, I made another word.


Guess what else is a word?  Dumbass.

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Re: This is not a word
Reply #25 on: September 25, 2007, 11:54:10 PM
AHAHAHHAH!!!  You're going to defend someone's semantics and pedantry by noting my typo?

I don't think anything anyone could have done would have more solidified my, how you say, correctness :P (and yes, correctness is a word)  Not to mention done something more immature.


Fine.  You know what else is a word?  Quijibo.  I just used it, so it's a word.  And you wanna know what else is a word?  Fardlehardleshooooop-ba.  There, I made another word.


Guess what else is a word?  Dumbass.

We have a very devout Simpsons fan among us.

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Reply #26 on: September 26, 2007, 12:17:05 AM
We have a very devout Simpsons fan among us.

What are you saying?  That quijibo isn't a real word?  No it is a real word.  It means a big dumb balding North American ape.  It's a word because I say it is ;D

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Reply #27 on: September 26, 2007, 03:29:36 AM
AHAHAHHAH!!!  You're going to defend someone's semantics and pedantry by noting my typo?

I don't think anything anyone could have done would have more solidified my, how you say, correctness :P (and yes, correctness is a word)  Not to mention done something more immature.

Oh, please - a typo on the word "semantic" was begging to be poked fun at, particularly in a thread negating the legitimacy of a certain intentional and clever "typo."  I'm not defending anyone, nor am I making fun of you personally.  Lighten up.

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Reply #28 on: September 26, 2007, 07:12:15 AM
Fine.  You know what else is a word?  Quijibo.  I just used it, so it's a word.  And you wanna know what else is a word?  Fardlehardleshooooop-ba.  There, I made another word.


See, that realization wasn't that hard. Next time think a bit more before you start to make claims.
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Reply #29 on: September 26, 2007, 10:28:40 PM
Oh, please - a typo on the word "semantic" was begging to be poked fun at, particularly in a thread negating the legitimacy of a certain intentional and clever "typo."  I'm not defending anyone, nor am I making fun of you personally.  Lighten up.

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Ah then you should have added like :P or  ;D or  ;)!  This is basic internet etiquette when trying to convey sarcasm in a hostile e-environment ;) ;D :P  Although I couldn't agree less with you on the assertion that this typo is "clever".  [insert lack of emoticons]
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