What did happen to Pianistimo?

[Bob]

Another forum member disappeared?  Gone the way of Bernhard and so many others before that?

Did her computer break?

She would start collecting donations for her children?

[communist]

god smite her for spamming religious with crap

[thalbergmad]

She has logged on a couple of times, but has not posted.

I do hope she comes back, but without so much of the religious spamming. It has been a lot more peaceful around here without her.

I hope she is seeking help, as some of her last posts indicated she was a sandwich short of a picnic.

Thal

[prometheus]

Maybe she has finally found a direct line with god.

[berrt]

she was a sandwich short of a picnic.

Thal

Tx thal - ill add that to my repertoire of English phrases..

B.

[thalbergmad]

I would be interested in the German version.

How do you describe people that are "not all there"?

Thal

[shortyshort]

Tx thal - ill add that to my repertoire of English phrases..

B.

A famous Spike Miligan one, (and a favourite of mine),

"A custard short of a pudding"

Others,

"A few bricks short of a hod"
"Sixpence short of a shilling"

[gerry]

Interesting that this is the second thread that has asked this specific question...for all the angst, she certainly must have added something necessary to the forum as it seems to be the subject of such concern. Maybe just so things don't get too unnecessarily personal for her, someone should start a separate thread for the word game that's sprung up  here.

[quantum]

Yes I have been wondering too.  She did add much personality to this place.  It kind of feels a bit lonely without her presence.

[Bob]

Just odd that she's goes from "all" to "none."


With so many posts about her... Maybe we should start a board dedicated to Pianistimo?  All the threads about her could be collected there.  (That's a joke.)


I do wonder sometimes.  Someone suddenly leaves.  No word.  Maybe they're dead?

[gerry]

Not quite dead yet - she's checked in a few times very quietly. While I personally didn't get as involved in the ecumenical discussions as much as some others, I do hope she's not undergoing a crisis of faith but just deciding that this forum is not appropriate for anything but musically germane exchange.

[thalberg]

I think people in general often binge on certain things and then move on.  We go through phases.  I went through a phase where I drank like 60 ounces of iced tea a day and now I drink none.  Pianistimo really was on a pianostreet kick for a while.  Maybe she's just had her fill.

She has not disappeared--I checked her account and she does log on from time to time.  She just reads now.  But she used to average 14 long posts per day, and who among us could sustain that kind of time commitment indefinitely?

I miss her because no matter how crazy her posts got she is a very kind person. 

I think people around here now perhaps have the time to catch up on reading her old posts, since probably many of us have not quite read all of them.

[retrouvailles]

There are other users worth noting too, you know. It is a bit mean to the others to recognize only one.

[gerry]

There are other users worth noting too, you know. It is a bit mean to the others to recognize only one.

OK. Note them and we'll recognize them.

[pianochick93]

I don't know what happened to her, but I hope it isn't anything bad.

I wasn't a member for most of her religious posts, but I was here for some of them, and now she is gone the forum seems lonely.

[shortyshort]

I wasn't a member for most of her religious posts

You can still read them all you know, if you have a few years spare. 

[pianochick93]

Yes, I know. I don't really want to...

[shortyshort]

Yes, I know. I don't really want to...

Very wise choice. 

[artichoke]

I don't know what happened to her, but I hope it isn't anything bad.

I wasn't a member for most of her religious posts, but I was here for some of them, and now she is gone the forum seems lonely.

Yes, I do have the same feeling.

BTW, anybody heard from/about Bernhard recently?

[cmg]

Yeah, I miss her, too.  I've stayed away because of the bullying that was going on here for awhile.  It doesn't seem that those people are around much anymore.

Pianistimo could work my last nerve with her political posts that she cribbed from the Book of Revelations, but she was never boring and always kind and sweet -- unless provoked beyond all endurance.  Sometimes I provoked her and for that I am heartily sorry. 

If you're out there, P., please accept my apology.  Hope you're well and thriving.

[term]

Yeah, I miss her, too.  I've stayed away because of the bullying that was going on here for awhile. 

true, that sucked.
A lot of hypocrisy going on at that time, like "dont like being bothered with religion, be tolerant" and at the same time not being tolerant at all when she said what for her was truth.
Also, nobody seemed to hesitate to attack her like a pack of lions hunting a gazelle Oo. You guys were pretty strong in 10 vs 1 *rofl*
pah....

[gerry]

true, that sucked.
A lot of hypocrisy going on at that time, like "dont like being bothered with religion, be tolerant" and at the same time not being tolerant at all when she said what for her was truth.
Also, nobody seemed to hesitate to attack her like a pack of lions hunting a gazelle Oo. You guys very pretty strong in 10 vs 1 *rofl*
pah....

Come on people, as admirable as your contrition seems, if she resurfaced with her logic-defying, bibilical dogma you'd be all over her again. As for the odds, I'd say
it was more 1 vs 10 - her convictions seemed to remain consistent and unflappable against all.

[shortyshort]

Come on people, as admirable as your contrition seems, if she resurfaced with her logic-defying, bibilical dogma you'd be all over her again. As for the odds, I'd say
it was more 1 vs 10 - her convictions seemed to remain consistent and unflappable against all.

Agreed. Most of us would cringe at the thought of reading her closed minded, bigoted, racist drivel again.

I'm sure that she thinks that she is a very nice person, but she was so brain-washed that she could not see, or even glimpse at anyone elses opinon, let alone ever realise that she may be even slightly WRONG.

[berrt]

I would be interested in the German version.

How do you describe people that are "not all there"?

Thal

"nicht alle Tassen im Schrank" =  "not all cups in the cupboard"

B.

[shortyshort]

"nicht alle Tassen im Schrank" =  "not all cups in the cupboard"

B.

lol, i like that one. 

I will start using it. Thanks 

[berrt]

More modern versions:
"der hat n nassen Hut auf" = "he's wearing a wet hat"
"der ha ja Ei aufm Kragen" = "there's egg on his collar"

B.

[gerry]

More modern versions:
"der hat n nassen Hut auf" = "he's wearing a wet hat"
"der ha ja Ei aufm Kragen" = "there's egg on his collar"

B.

Can't wait to drop those bon mots at my next dinner party.

[cmg]

Come on people, as admirable as your contrition seems, if she resurfaced with her logic-defying, bibilical dogma you'd be all over her again. As for the odds, I'd say
it was more 1 vs 10 - her convictions seemed to remain consistent and unflappable against all.

Of course, you're right!  But it was strangely, well, impersonal, for all its skewed-to-the-rightwing trajectory.  When she was "out there," she was really "out there" and could press her case until the cows came home.  She never really stooped to ad hominem attacks.  She just totally trashed logic with not a hair out of place.  I kind of miss her inspired nuttiness.

And she never really name-called.  She just said that anyone who didn't believe as she believed would go straight to hell.  But, she promised to pray for us.  

[term]

Come on people, as admirable as your contrition seems, if she resurfaced with her logic-defying, bibilical dogma you'd be all over her again.

but don't bash her. Its one thing not to be right, but all vs one is just lame. I, for one, didnt participate.
Did you find that there was actually something coming out of these discussions under these conditions? Was it productive, meaningful? I guess not, so i think most just had fun bashing her or were so outraged that they couldnt sit still anymore.

[gerry]

If you can't stand the heat....

[quantum]

She never really stooped to ad hominem attacks. 

One of the reasons I respect her.

She just totally trashed logic with not a hair out of place.  I kind of miss her inspired nuttiness.

So do I

[thalbergmad]

so i think most just had fun bashing her or were so outraged that they couldnt sit still anymore.

Perfectly sums up my position.

Thal

[landru]

When she was talking about piano related stuff, she was kind and informative - though the stream-of-consciousness was very hard to take. Also, sometimes her information came straight through another source without any annotation or editing so it was difficult to figure out what exactly the point was. But it usually was an attempt and sometimes lucidity broke through and was helpful.

On the religious/political stuff: I used her as a bellwether to the wackiness that the USA has always had and has always seemed to overcome through the messy business of democracy. That is why the last years of Bush has always been tough - the wacky seemed to overcome the rational in our democracy and the rational were left with only rational tools to work with - which is a distinct disadvantage when the wacky are in power. Hence, to me, pianistimo was invaluable to me in showing me how these people "think" - because, really, before reading her postings, I thought people like her were an urban legend. So seeing her wacky postings showed me who the people are who put the U.S.'s present leaders in power, and it showed me how that happened, which I never could quite fathom before seeing how one of those "minds" work (i.e. pianistimo's).

It also showed me the power of tribal affinity. She has defined herself by her membership in her fundamentalist political tribe and the benefits she thinks she gets from that membership cannot be displaced by something like logic. To most people, changing our mind when confronted with logical/scientific facts is relatively simple - to people like pianistimo,  changing their mind would be a matter of tribal exclusion - which is unthinkable to someone who self-identifies with the tribe. One must first deal with getting the person out of the tribe - THEN, you can start working on logical/scientific arguments. And that wasn't going to happen in ol' pianostreet! We were just the pagans throwing spears at the circled faithful...

[term]

To most people, changing our mind when confronted with logical/scientific facts is relatively simple

Well...not really. Opinions are always secondary to identification with groups. Truth is very often not what counts to people. Everybody who has experience in talking about scientific topics (with the wrong people^^) knows that.
Belonging to some group=self-affirmation=stability in identity, which is much more important than...pretty much anything actually. ->If you want to know whats true, you have to question yourself first.
So i'm not really surprised that she doesnt move a millimeter, and many here didnt, too (when it was appropriate).
[Not trying to justify her opinions, just her point of view]

[Bob]

Haha.... She's still creating more material even though she's not here now.   

[gerry]

Ah, but she is still here as she is currently posting on the forum, AND, I can't help thinking, silently following and enjoying this thread.

[kard]

this sounds like some strange autobiography...

[thalbergmad]

Thinking of Pianistimo, there is a TV programme on right now called "Baby Bible Bashers"

Extremely funny.

Thal

[gerry]

this sounds like some strange autobiography...

Are you suggesting that she has adopted multiple accounts (and personalities) on Pianostreet and has really been writing about herself

[kard]

Are you suggesting that she has adopted multiple accounts (and personalities) on Pianostreet and has really been writing about herself

word choice...
I meant biography.
nevertheless, its just funny to read. I'm kinda new to PS but I still know enough about the pianistimo wars to find irony.

[ahinton]

Thinking of Pianistimo,

...as you do...

 

there is a TV programme on right now called "Baby Bible Bashers"

I simply couldn't face watching it.

Extremely funny.

Ah, well; evidently I missed out on some good entertainment.

That said, you surely don't seriously imagine that Sister Susan would ever have bashed her babies with a Bible, do you?...

Best,

Alistair

[pianochick93]

That said, you surely don't seriously imagine that Sister Susan would ever have bashed her babies with a Bible, do you?...

The program was called 'Baby Bible Bashers' not 'Bible Bashes Babies'

I would assume it would be something along the lines of kids/teens who just critisise and reject religion, having no idea what it is like or why it can be good.

[thalbergmad]

I think you have got the wrong end of the stick, chick.

It was precisely the opposite.

Thal

[ctrastevere]

I would assume it would be something along the lines of kids/teens who just critisise and reject religion, having no idea what it is like or why it can be good.

"Bible basher" is a synonym for "bible thumper," meaning someone who rabidly preaches the Bible to everyone they meet, especially those who aren't interested in hearing about it. It's supposed to be derogatory.

[pianochick93]

I think you have got the wrong end of the stick, chick.

It was precisely the opposite.

Thal

Oops. 

At least I was closer than Alastair...

[ahinton]

Oops. 

At least I was closer than Alastair...

Alistair, actually - and no, you weren't, as a matter of fact, since I do know exactly what that term means but was making what was probably a not especially good joke by taking it in the very kind of literal way in which Pianistimo frequently interpreted certain passages in the said Bible...

Best,

Alistair

[thalbergmad]

Pianistimo's children have to save at least 7 sinners before dinner time.

Thal

[ahinton]

Pianistimo's children have to save at least 7 sinners before dinner time.

Can you be absolutely certain of that? Have you met them all and conscientiously and scientifically observed, documented and analysed their respective pre-prandial behaviour?

"Sinners before dinners"? - hmm, sounds to me to be abit too neatly convenient a phrase...

Best,

Alistair

[shortyshort]

Can you be absolutely certain of that? Have you met them all and conscientiously and scientifically observed, documented and analysed their respective pre-prandial behaviour?

If anyone knows her, it is Thal. 
He has read all of her posts. 
Therefore, he has insight. 

"Sinners before dinners"? - hmm, sounds to me to be abit too neatly convenient a phrase...

I think 7 each before dinner is a bit hopeful. 
Where would all the "Sinners" hide? 
I need to know soon.   

[ahinton]

If anyone knows her, it is Thal. 
He has read all of her posts. 
Therefore, he has insight. 

I'm not entirely certain that Thal would claim supreme knowledge of her, even among this forum's membership, but I'll defer to him on that if he wishes to comment thereon; clearly, his knowledge of her, whatever and however extensive it may be, is not - er - what shall we say? - Biblical...

I think 7 each before dinner is a bit hopeful. 

Shameful, I'd call it...

Where would all the "Sinners" hide? 
I need to know soon.   

Presumably not in a certain Collegeville kitchen. But WHY do you need to know? You're surely not one of them, are you?

In all seriousness, I think that we may fairly assume that P. has decided that this forum is perhaps not quite the ideal place for her particular brand of religious expression and/or that she has other things upon which to use her time; the period of absence of contributions from her to this forum has now spanned several weeks, so I think we may reasonably conclude that her decision/s and the rationale behind them appear to all intents and purposes to remain intact...

Best,

Alistair