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Offline akonow

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Chopin Etudes Recordings
« on: May 29, 2008, 01:22:38 AM »
Who is your favorite performer of Chopin's etudes? ::) Annnd... why?

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Offline michel dvorsky

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Re: Chopin Etudes Recordings
«Reply #1 on: May 29, 2008, 01:24:46 AM »
Friedman. Superior skill + 19th century inspiration = timeless.
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Re: Chopin Etudes Recordings
«Reply #2 on: May 29, 2008, 02:14:49 AM »
Cziffra, although the recording quality does not do justice to his tone.
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Re: Chopin Etudes Recordings
«Reply #3 on: May 29, 2008, 07:24:19 AM »
Lugansky
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Re: Chopin Etudes Recordings
«Reply #4 on: May 29, 2008, 07:42:32 AM »
Cortot.
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Re: Chopin Etudes Recordings
«Reply #5 on: May 29, 2008, 11:42:03 AM »
Sokolov (op. 25)

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Re: Chopin Etudes Recordings
«Reply #6 on: May 29, 2008, 01:18:15 PM »
Sokolov (op. 25)

Seconded!  Also, Lugansky and John Browning.  Perahia is no slouch either.

Oh, and part 2 of the question, "why?," is that these performances are technically secure, musically distinctive and characterized by beautiful tone production. 
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Re: Chopin Etudes Recordings
«Reply #7 on: May 29, 2008, 07:51:07 PM »
I haven't heard too many but Garrick Ohlsson's recording is excellent  :)

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Re: Chopin Etudes Recordings
«Reply #8 on: May 29, 2008, 09:49:13 PM »
Ashkenazy, Young.  Don't remember which one, I'm thinking 1961.  The one with the Mephisto Waltz from Carnegie Hall which has leaps at relativistic velocities...
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Re: Chopin Etudes Recordings
«Reply #9 on: May 30, 2008, 02:33:40 PM »
Cortot, Geza Anda, Pollini.
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Re: Chopin Etudes Recordings
«Reply #10 on: May 30, 2008, 08:00:19 PM »
PERAHIA, Cortot, Ohlsson!!

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Re: Chopin Etudes Recordings
«Reply #11 on: May 30, 2008, 11:56:10 PM »
Okay so...
Friedman: 1
Cziffra: 1
Lugansky: 2
Cortot: 3
Sokolov: 2
Browning: 1
Perahia: 2
Ohlsson: 2
Ashkenazy: 1
Young: 1
Anda: 1
Pollini: 1

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Re: Chopin Etudes Recordings
«Reply #12 on: June 01, 2008, 01:48:39 AM »
Gina Bachauer...not a well known recording.  Doubt that it is even available on any sort of reissue, CD, etc. It was probably on a small label.  Her performances were stellar, crystal clear technique, absolute control of the musical line, and a profound depth of musical understanding.  I heard them as a young conservatory student in the 1970's and am still moved and amazed by them today.

This is not to discredit any more recent performances; there are many excellent ones mentioned here.  But this is the one that affected me in a singular way and I heatily recommend it if you can find it.
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Re: Chopin Etudes Recordings
«Reply #13 on: June 01, 2008, 11:12:18 PM »
Friedman. Friedman. Friedman.

Ok, now Friedman is ahead with 4.
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Re: Chopin Etudes Recordings
«Reply #14 on: June 02, 2008, 07:38:10 AM »
Perahia
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Re: Chopin Etudes Recordings
«Reply #15 on: June 02, 2008, 01:55:42 PM »
Gavrilov plays both sets in an authoritative manner. By that I mean one is aware of a strong physicality in the playing. For me the poetry of the music survives....just about.

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Re: Chopin Etudes Recordings
«Reply #16 on: June 02, 2008, 04:32:06 PM »
Add one for Cziffra and remove one from Perahia!

Jake I want to hear the Friedman plx 8) .
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Re: Chopin Etudes Recordings
«Reply #17 on: June 02, 2008, 07:34:29 PM »
Ashkenazy: 1
Young: 1

He meant young Ashkenazy, not Ashkenazy and some guy named Young. Fix your post.

My votes go to young Ashkenazy, Pollini, and Orozco.

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Re: Chopin Etudes Recordings
«Reply #18 on: June 03, 2008, 04:46:45 PM »
I vote for Alfred Cortot and Andrei Gavrilov.
The first for supreme musicality, and the other for dazzling virtuosity...

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Re: Chopin Etudes Recordings
«Reply #19 on: June 03, 2008, 10:51:00 PM »
Oops haha, sorry ;D

Friedman: 2 (Sorry, you don't get three votes for the same person ;))
Cziffra: 2
Lugansky: 2
Cortot: 4
Sokolov: 2
Browning: 1
Perahia: 3
Ohlsson: 2
"Young" Ashkenazy: 3 (I added my vote :))
Anda: 1
Pollini: 2
Bachauer: 1
Gavrilov: 2
Orozco: 1

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Re: Chopin Etudes Recordings
«Reply #20 on: June 04, 2008, 10:13:01 AM »
As individual recordings, most great pianists seem to have recorded some fine Chopin etudes. However, as a complete set, having always had the Ashkenazy CD, for me that is the definitive recording which I always come back to.

Friedman: 2
Cziffra: 2
Lugansky: 2
Cortot: 4
Sokolov: 2
Browning: 1
Perahia: 3
Ohlsson: 2
"Young" Ashkenazy: 4
Anda: 1
Pollini: 2
Bachauer: 1
Gavrilov: 2
Orozco: 1
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Re: Chopin Etudes Recordings
«Reply #21 on: June 08, 2008, 09:30:54 PM »
Who is your favorite performer of Chopin's etudes? ::) Annnd... why?

I have a vynil of Ludwig Hoffman playing a few etudes (quite old), and he plays them better than anyone else I've heard. (I like his authenticity, I always believe in this way of playing for any composer).
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Re: Chopin Etudes Recordings
«Reply #22 on: June 08, 2008, 09:58:20 PM »
Friedman. Friedman. Friedman.

Ok, now Friedman is ahead with 4.

Hey, how many did he really record? I'm guessing around 5, so what are your favourite complete set?

Pollini played 10,7 faster than Friedman when he was 14 years old :D

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«Reply #23 on: June 08, 2008, 11:43:04 PM »
I think Guiomar Novaes' interpretations of the Etudes are quite attractive; she has a very personal sound.

Richter is stunning when it comes to technique. Cortot has a very Chopinesque aproach.
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Re: Chopin Etudes Recordings
«Reply #24 on: June 09, 2008, 12:16:30 AM »
Pollini played 10,7 faster than Friedman when he was 14 years old :D

Does faster mean "better"?  :o :o :o

In whole my life I can remember only 5 times leaving concerts before they ended. First, was a student concert. Second, I had to go to the airport, so unfortunately I had to leave Shura Cherkasski recital in Moscow right before encores. Third... I don't remember. Fourth/fifth--goes to Pollini's recitals, when twice I left after the first half.

On the other hand, if I ever had a chance I'd be kneeling for hours behind the closed doors, just to catch a few notes of Maestro Friedman practicing...

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Re: Chopin Etudes Recordings
«Reply #25 on: June 09, 2008, 01:33:27 AM »
Oh....and Pletnev (!) for the three that he has recorded.

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«Reply #26 on: June 09, 2008, 03:38:44 PM »
Does faster mean "better"?  :o :o :o

In whole my life I can remember only 5 times leaving concerts before they ended. First, was a student concert. Second, I had to go to the airport, so unfortunately I had to leave Shura Cherkasski recital in Moscow right before encores. Third... I don't remember. Fourth/fifth--goes to Pollini's recitals, when twice I left after the first half.

On the other hand, if I ever had a chance I'd be kneeling for hours behind the closed doors, just to catch a few notes of Maestro Friedman practicing...

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No, no I don't belive faster means better. I just mentioned it to Dvorsky because he would probably brag about how fast Friedman plays. And he is an idiot...

Friedman is definetly one of my top 5 pianists of all time :)

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Re: Chopin Etudes Recordings
«Reply #27 on: June 10, 2008, 12:52:52 AM »
i think vasary's ain't that bad

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Re: Chopin Etudes Recordings
«Reply #28 on: June 10, 2008, 10:32:32 PM »
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Pollini played 10,7 faster than Friedman when he was 14 years old Cheesy

I have that Pollini recording.  It's certainly impressive for a 14 year-old.  But thats about it.

Friedman's 10/7 is actually faster.  It's also more accurate, better articulated, and  rhythmically controlled. 

I don't know how you could have even made such a frivolous statement in the first place since it is so patently false. 

No, no I don't belive faster means better. I just mentioned it to Dvorsky because he would probably brag about how fast Friedman plays. And he is an idiot...

Friedman is definetly one of my top 5 pianists of all time :)

Who's the one acting like a fool here?

In terms of virtuoso studies like 10/7, speed is a necessary quality but is, in itself, completely insufficient. 

You're obviously right that Friedman only recorded a few Chopin Etudes. They're my favorite recordings of Chopin etudes, so Friedman is naturally my favorite performer of Chopin's etudes.  For complete sets, my favorites are Ashkenazy's Melodiya set and Orozco's.
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Re: Chopin Etudes Recordings
«Reply #29 on: June 11, 2008, 12:17:59 AM »
Alfred Cortot and maybe Sviatoslav Richter.
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Re: Chopin Etudes Recordings
«Reply #30 on: June 12, 2008, 04:13:15 PM »
Lhevinne for his op.25 no.6 - no more needed! (although it would have been amazing to hear the complete set!)
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Re: Chopin Etudes Recordings
«Reply #31 on: June 12, 2008, 05:05:21 PM »
I have that Pollini recording.  It's certainly impressive for a 14 year-old.  But thats about it.

Friedman's 10/7 is actually faster.  It's also more accurate, better articulated, and  rhythmically controlled. 

I don't know how you could have even made such a frivolous statement in the first place since it is so patently false. 

Who's the one acting like a fool here?

In terms of virtuoso studies like 10/7, speed is a necessary quality but is, in itself, completely insufficient. 


Obviously speed is never sufficient alone.

If I say Pollini's  10.7 is more accurate, better articulated, and  rhythmically controlled than Friedmans how will you prove that I am wrong?

I may be wrong about the speed, but can you give me the timings since I don't have Friedmans recording with me right now? 

Pollini's recording is ca. 1.13.

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Re: Chopin Etudes Recordings
«Reply #32 on: June 21, 2008, 04:55:21 AM »
Any opinions on Arrau Berezovsky and Bachaus?

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Re: Chopin Etudes Recordings
«Reply #33 on: June 21, 2008, 05:13:28 AM »
Ashkenazy for Etudes, but those Ashkenazy's only Chopin recordings  that I prefer.

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«Reply #34 on: June 21, 2008, 07:55:45 AM »
Ashkenazy for Etudes, but those Ashkenazy's only Chopin recordings  that I prefer.

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Re: Chopin Etudes Recordings
«Reply #35 on: June 21, 2008, 09:50:33 AM »
Saperton, Cortot, Bachaus, young pollini, Cziffra (complete)
Friedmann (excerpts)
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«Reply #36 on: June 21, 2008, 12:34:53 PM »
Saperton, Cortot, Bachaus, young pollini, Cziffra (complete)
Friedmann (excerpts)
Yeah, Friedmans revulotionary is absolute awesome....

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Re: Chopin Etudes Recordings
«Reply #37 on: June 25, 2008, 09:57:03 PM »
Sviatoslav Richter.

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Re: Chopin Etudes Recordings
«Reply #38 on: June 25, 2008, 11:09:44 PM »
Not well-known, but stellar recording dating from the 60s by Augustin Anievas.  Absolutely stunning technique, musicianship, sound. 

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Re: Chopin Etudes Recordings
«Reply #39 on: June 26, 2008, 05:50:05 AM »
I think Perahia's recording is dazzling. I have Cortot's and Arrau's as well. I don't like Arrau's very much, however Cortot's is amazing as well. I personall prefer Perahia's.

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Re: Chopin Etudes Recordings
«Reply #40 on: June 26, 2008, 10:08:06 AM »
Okay, heard some more recordings...

Lugansky, Pollini, Perahia they are all very good. It's hard to judge, you know, they don't have very differen't interpretations.


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Re: Chopin Etudes Recordings
«Reply #41 on: June 26, 2008, 01:51:39 PM »
Forgot to mention Robert Goldsand and Bolet (op. 25) in live performances.
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Re: Chopin Etudes Recordings
«Reply #42 on: July 09, 2008, 07:12:11 AM »
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Re: Chopin Etudes Recordings
«Reply #43 on: July 09, 2008, 11:05:36 AM »
I second Anievas and would also like to add Abbey Simon.
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Re: Chopin Etudes Recordings
«Reply #44 on: July 23, 2008, 03:27:48 PM »
i would choose lugansky over all, because he combines the technique with the musicality. He is able to take those exercise and studies, and work at not only mastering the speed, but ear as well.

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Re: Chopin Etudes Recordings
«Reply #45 on: July 24, 2008, 01:31:53 AM »
I came across an old record of Lhevinne's etudes about 10 years ago.  It was AMAZING!  Impossible to find now but wow, it was the best performance of the etudes I have ever heard. 
His complete recordings are available on Naxos historial - quite easy to find!
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Re: Chopin Etudes Recordings
«Reply #46 on: July 24, 2008, 09:52:40 PM »
perahia
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Re: Chopin Etudes Recordings
«Reply #47 on: July 25, 2008, 02:16:21 AM »
His complete recordings are available on Naxos historial - quite easy to find!

I actually have that CD  :) It includes duo-piano with his wife rosina lhevinne also! Those are all amazing recordings  :)

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Re: Chopin Etudes Recordings
«Reply #48 on: July 26, 2008, 01:28:43 AM »
And who is Juana Zayas, chop suey?

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Re: Chopin Etudes Recordings
«Reply #49 on: July 26, 2008, 04:43:21 AM »
I second Anievas and would also like to add Abbey Simon.

I third Anievas, but don't know the Simon. Other complete sets I like are young Ashkenazy  :o  and Louis Lortie.


And Juana Zayas certainly isn't chop suey; I heard her her play them all live a few years ago; tremendous technique, color and temperament. Also heard Kuerti but the best complete live performance was Youri Egorov in 1979, on the heels of his silver or bronze medal in the Van Cliburn comp. A couple of months ago I heard Walter Cosand of Arizona State University play them all in recital.
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