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Offline romagister

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please identify pieces
on: June 12, 2008, 10:18:49 AM
Please help if anyone can identify formally these pieces. They sounded FUN when I heard them many years ago... They may be transposed from what I noted:

1) "Italian tarantella" (?) [I checked and it isn't the one from Tchaikovsky Nutcracker, nor popular tarantellas from various regions]. Not very hard, had a simple LH alternating pattern too.

EGC'BAG B B, ABC'BAB A G, F#GAGFnatE G F, EFGFED E D...

2) Italian (or Latin?) choral piece with piano accompaniment. Words with "nymphe belle" (?)

EFGGFD E C, DEFFFE D   , BCDDDB A A, BCBCCB C ...

I know many more bars of each if needed, maybe not the full original pieces.

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Re: please identify pieces
Reply #1 on: June 12, 2008, 09:57:05 PM
You could try Youtube for the tarantella, but good luck. Apparently tarantellas are still wildly popular in several regions of Italy, and there are gazillions of examples, even on Youtube.

The second one is Speme amorosa by Gastoldi (1550-1622).



Vezzosette Ninfe e belle
che in beltà tutte vincete
le più vaghe pastorelle, fa la la
A voi che amiamo pietà chiediamo, fa la la
Questa a noi promise Amore
quando a' suoi dorati strali
fe' bersaglio il nostro core, fa la la
Or dunque abbiate di noi pietate, fa la la
Non convien che tanta fede
come avete in noi già scorta,
abbia morte per mercede, fa la la
Da voi aita speriamo e vita, fa la la
Vita omai porgete a noi
sì leali e fidi amanti
che'l morir sprezziam per voi, fa la la
Qui 'l fin omai de' nostri guai, fa la la

Also set by Campion or somebody with English words, I think. And somebody wrote a "Christmas madrigal" to the same tune.  The words to the Christmas song (which is 20th century) are something like:

Is it far to Beth'lem city?
Do the pilgrims know the way there?
Did they travel by the bright star?
Fa la la la la la la

A lot of Italian madrigals have had English words put to them, dating back to the Elizabethan era. But it's tricky to do, since Italian verse usually uses feminine endings to the lines, and that's not natural in English.

Anything else you want to know?  ;D It's one of my favorite madrigals...

Offline liszt1022

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Re: please identify pieces
Reply #2 on: June 13, 2008, 02:13:35 AM
The first one is called "Chanson napolitaine" or "Neapolitan song." It is Tchaikovsky's Album for the Young, op. 39, the piece is #18 in the set.

at 2:00

Edit: It's also in Swan Lake.

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Re: please identify pieces
Reply #3 on: June 13, 2008, 05:27:25 AM
Many thanks to you both, these were the pieces !
Now, I'll search the sheet music... Mutopia first.

1) Tchaikovsky - Danse napolitaine
https://www.mutopiaproject.org/ftp/TchaikovskyPI/dansenapolitaine/dansenapolitaine-a4.pdf
Beware, the solo voice is for Bb trumpet so needs to be transposed back ! found out because the MIDI was just sounding 'off'.

2) Giovanni Gastoldi - Vezzosette Ninfe
https://wso.williams.edu/cpdl/sheet/gast-vez.pdf
Now, good exercise what to do with the 5-line SSATB on a piano...

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Re: please identify pieces
Reply #4 on: June 13, 2008, 10:21:20 AM

2) Giovanni Gastoldi - Vezzosette Ninfe
https://wso.williams.edu/cpdl/sheet/gast-vez.pdf
Now, good exercise what to do with the 5-line SSATB on a piano...
You can download the midi version here:

https://www.classicalarchives.com/early/g.html

but you have to register first I think. Then if you have the right software, you can convert midi file to sheet music and arrange 5 voices on 2 staves.

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Re: please identify pieces
Reply #5 on: June 14, 2008, 07:16:44 AM
What Haydn piece is this ? played as a guest by Agnetha Faltskog, singer of ABBA:


... an obvious encouragement to sightreading, from someone whose main specialty is not piano...

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Re: please identify pieces
Reply #6 on: June 14, 2008, 04:39:15 PM
She's cute, kind of like a prettier version of Liv Ullmann...
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