Chopin Waltz

[conforza]

hello, i was just wondering if you guys would agree with me if i said that the following chopin waltz (no. 17 op. posth.) is about ABRSM 8?

https://pianosociety.com/cms/files/resourcesmodule/@random47753b22b9313/1198865522_opposth_waltz17.pdf

also, please riddle me this: why is this the most underplayed waltz? i've only heard a few recording but i find it to be the most beautiful of the waltzes.

[conforza]

should i interpret your silence as unfamiliarity with the waltz or as scorn for difficulty posts?

[eric9]

Or maybe that the link doesn't work?

[conforza]

no that can't be because it works for me but if that's the case for everyone else then i guess i'll describe it to you. it's in e flat major and here is a video of a guy playing it although he seems to think it's in a flat and should be played super slow: https://youtube.com/watch?v=pggauSTkeZc

[sissco]

better 

[akonow]

I remember playing this piece. I absolutely love it too. I would say it's grade 8 because of some awkward fingerings and fast-ish octaves but then again there is no tempo marking on my edition so maybe I was playing it too fast.

[eric9]

I love this Waltz.  I heard a recording of it on a complete selection of Chopin's Waltzes and had a hard time finding the sheet music to it-  Agreed, it's a great piece and I don't know why it's so underplayed.

[nucleartide]

[trazom]

One reason this particular "Chopin Waltz" is underplayed might be...
Because it wasn't actually composed by Chopin.

Somewhere along the line it got labeled as a Chopin composition, but apparently this is not the case.  I don't really know the details, but my Henle edition of the Chopin Waltzes mentions this:

"[KK IVa Nr. 14], as J.Ekier has convincingly proved, is probably a spurious work."

Of course, this doesn't sound 100% conclusive, so perhaps Chopin did write it.  And it shouldn't really matter, you should judge a composition for what it is, regardless of the composer.  I find this one a tad boring myself but to each his own.

[akonow]

One reason this particular "Chopin Waltz" is underplayed might be...
Because it wasn't actually composed by Chopin.

Somewhere along the line it got labeled as a Chopin composition, but apparently this is not the case.  I don't really know the details, but my Henle edition of the Chopin Waltzes mentions this:

"[KK IVa Nr. 14], as J.Ekier has convincingly proved, is probably a spurious work."

Of course, this doesn't sound 100% conclusive, so perhaps Chopin did write it.  And it shouldn't really matter, you should judge a composition for what it is, regardless of the composer.  I find this one a tad boring myself but to each his own.

I have no purpose in life because of what you just wrote...