ranting room or thread?

[db05]

We've had the idea recently to have a place dedicated to rants/ complaints... so as not to infect the other forum threads...

What do all you guys think? Is it good/ allowed? Should we have it in the chat, or in the forum?

In any case, Sir nils, what are we allowed/ not allowed to complain about?

[retrouvailles]

The forum isn't a blog, so I don't think it would be appropriate. if you want to rant so badly, do it on a blog, or do it to people on real life. Or do it in chat. A rant forum would just turn into a spam forum. It's the reason why no forum I have been to has had one.

[pianochick93]

It's the reason why no forum I have been to has had one.

Odd, 3/5 forums I'm on have one, and it doesn't turn into spam. It may be because most of the posters on those forums have legit rants and are mature about it, but I don't see a problem with trying it. There are so many times I've wanted to vent my frustration, just type it and let it out (it's less attention attracting than screaming) but I haven't wanted to create a whole new thread to do it in.

[retrouvailles]

Odd, 3/5 forums I'm on have one, and it doesn't turn into spam. It may be because most of the posters on those forums have legit rants and are mature about it, but I don't see a problem with trying it. There are so many times I've wanted to vent my frustration, just type it and let it out (it's less attention attracting than screaming) but I haven't wanted to create a whole new thread to do it in.

Well, here's the thing. I wouldn't exactly consider most people on this forum to be mature about it, so I don't think it would do very well here, given that most of the forum (especially as of late) is of a rather young crowd. We'll have to see what Nils says. Hopefully he will actually respond to this thread, given that many of the support threads that are aimed at him go unresponded.

[db05]

A rant forum would just turn into a spam forum. It's the reason why no forum I have been to has had one.

The rules still apply, so spamming can be avoided. Same as pianochick, I find complaints thread on other forums. So why not here? It's a matter of perspective; you don't think most people on here are "mature", but this one of the more decent and serious places I find... Even counting real life. I guess I'm one of the "young crowd". 

Note that deviantART forums have a whole board dedicated to complaints. Sure goes crazy sometimes, but is entertaining in the most part. It's good to just let it out sometimes. I don't think it'll get too crazy in here anyway, since most of you are, imo, mature people... 

[Petter]

It would steal all the attention from serious topics. 

[retrouvailles]

Isn't this forum (the website forum) basically the complaint forum? People post their complaints here. This is a bit of a silly request. Basically what you are asking for, in part, is a place for people to whine about their "troubles", real or not, to a bunch of people who they don't know nor who probably don't give a crap about. The other part you're asking for is a forum that we already have. Seems silly to me. Just cause other forums have them doesn't mean this one should. Look at da sdc, for example.

It would steal all the attention from serious topics. 

That too.

Nils, anything to say?

[nilsjohan]

Nils, anything to say?

Ehh... not much.
I'v been reading your posts here but do not yet understand the point with it. I mean, if someone has a good reason to complain about something it is OK to do so anywhere in the forum (on an appropriate board, of course).

In any case, Sir nils, what are we allowed/ not allowed to complain about?

I do not remember any case where someone here in the forum has been disallowed to complain about a specific issue so I guess the answer is that you can complain about anything as long as you keep to the forum rules.

[momopi]

ranting room or thread?

No. That would only encourage whiny behavior.

I'm whiny myself - and I know it's not good.

[pianochick93]

Basically what you are asking for, in part, is a place for people to whine about their "troubles", real or not, to a bunch of people who they don't know nor who probably don't give a crap about.

Yeah, that's it. Put it this way, I have real life friends, but I'm not really comfortable talking to them about some things. I express myself much better in writing. Sometimes all I need is somewhere where I can rant to people they don't know, and if they don't care, they don't even have to read my post, let alone respond. There will be a few that do respond though, and it invariably makes me feel better.

[morningstar]

People already have some of those threads in anything but and teaching (that i know of). Do you mean like a sub-forum or something instead of just a thread?

[pianochick93]

Something like a thread in Anything But Piano titled something like 'The Ranting Room' or 'Shout Your Frustrations To The World' where people can rant about anything that is bothering them/annoying them, piano or otherwise.

[db05]

It would steal all the attention from serious topics. 

Yeah. But it would also be good for telling serious people to stay away.

No. That would only encourage whiny behavior.

That might become a real problem.

Something like a thread in Anything But Piano titled something like 'The Ranting Room' or 'Shout Your Frustrations To The World' where people can rant about anything that is bothering them/annoying them, piano or otherwise.

That's the idea.

[morningstar]

That's the idea.

Only a thread by itself would be hard to follow with heaps of people ranting at the same time. Again: sub forum?

[pianochick93]

No it's not hard to follow really. You say your bit, maybe reply to the last couple of rants. The novelty of it wears off after a while and it is mostly used seriously.
It doesn't warrant an entire subforum, just a thread that is closed and maybe re-opened new occasionally when it gets too long.

[db05]

Maybe a child board in Anything But at the most.

[rc]

But... Why rant for it's own sake?  Couldn't there be more useful ways to deal with frustrations?

The idea of a board for ranting makes me nauseous.  I think ranting is the sort of habit worth breaking.

[retrouvailles]

Why should we have Nils go through the trouble of coding something that is basically just a spam forum? It wouldn't contribute anything to the forum, really. It would just add more clutter to the forum than what already exists from the Anything but Piano board. Seriously guys, grow up and rant to someone in real life, or not at all. People on the internet can't solve your problems as efficiently as living, breathing, real people that you can be sure of who they are.

[morningstar]

Why should we have Nils go through the trouble of coding something that is basically just a spam forum? It wouldn't contribute anything to the forum, really. It would just add more clutter to the forum than what already exists from the Anything but Piano board. Seriously guys, grow up and rant to someone in real life, or not at all. People on the internet can't solve your problems as efficiently as living, breathing, real people that you can be sure of who they are.

Give them a bit. Make the forum but the novelty will wear off after a while and then it will have to be removed or stay there not doing anything. But in the mean time it will clear up a bit of the clutter in other threads/forums.

[db05]

Give them a bit. Make the forum but the novelty will wear off after a while and then it will have to be removed or stay there not doing anything. But in the mean time it will clear up a bit of the clutter in other threads/forums.

Yes the idea is to clear up some clutter in other forums by having a non-serious thread.

Maybe not exactly a rant thread, but a light topics thread then?

[morningstar]

Yes the idea is to clear up some clutter in other forums by having a non-serious thread.

Maybe not exactly a rant thread, but a light topics thread then?

Maybe. Would have to clearly define a "light topic" first though.

[pianochick93]

I think anything but piano is pretty much filled with light topics.

How about rather than a rant thread, a 'how are you, today?' or 'good morning/evening, hi/low of the day/week' sort of thing. That way people can share their happy news as well.
It makes the forum seem more like a community.

[db05]

I think anything but piano is pretty much filled with light topics.

How about rather than a rant thread, a 'how are you, today?' or 'good morning/evening, hi/low of the day/week' sort of thing. That way people can share their happy news as well.
It makes the forum seem more like a community.

That sounds nice. Like Karli's "How was your morning?"

[pianochick93]

Yeah, pretty much like that, just in relation to your whole day/week.

[morningstar]

That sounds alright.

[iheartpiano]

I thought the general board (Anything but piano) was the place to rant and rave about things?

[morningstar]

I thought the general board (Anything but piano) was the place to rant and rave about things?

Yeah but at the moment there's just heaps of threads wher people rant about specific things, a general rant thread would clear up clutter and centralise the ranting

[iheartpiano]

Well, I don't think there's a need for it.  I've also been a part of many forums and I've never seen a section completely dedicated to complaining.  Although at one of the forums, a mod created a sticky thread just for venting and anyone could post to that thread when they were having a bad day.  It got to be 20 pages long, lol.

If anything, I think there should be a section created just for Introductions.  This is the only forum I've seen that doesn't have one, instead it's contained all in one thread.   

[morningstar]

Well, I don't think there's a need for it.  I've also been a part of many forums and I've never seen a section completely dedicated to complaining.  Although at one of the forums, a mod created a sticky thread just for venting and anyone could post to that thread when they were having a bad day.  It got to be 20 pages long, lol.

If anything, I think there should be a section created just for Introductions.  This is the only forum I've seen that doesn't have one, instead it's contained all in one thread.   

Well a couple of people already tried posting outside the Introductions thread and it had to be locked, so maybe leave well enough alone there.