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Offline bob3.1415926

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Scarlatti sonatas complete
on: January 19, 2009, 06:21:31 PM
Does anybody know of a publisher who has (probably in several volumes) Scarlatti's complete sonatas for keyboard? Can you suggest a decent website to get these from?

I've seen collections of 200ish, but I'm quite interested in getting the complete set (500ish). I know that Ricordi did do them, but I can't seem to find these for sale anywhere. Anyone know where you can get these, or another publisher who does the full set?

Many thanks in advance.

P.S. I know that you can download them, however, I'd rather buy them in books, than have irritating printed off scores.

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Re: Scarlatti sonatas complete
Reply #1 on: January 19, 2009, 06:30:32 PM
I have them.  I think it's Schirmer, yellowish covers.  Two volumes.  Kirkpatrick, editor.  That's what was recommended to me. 

I think those were mentioned on this site before too.  Maybe do a search.
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Re: Scarlatti sonatas complete
Reply #2 on: January 19, 2009, 07:04:18 PM
Off topic: Are you two related?
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Re: Scarlatti sonatas complete
Reply #3 on: January 19, 2009, 09:12:53 PM
schirmir is edited to death i would avoid it
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Re: Scarlatti sonatas complete
Reply #4 on: January 19, 2009, 09:31:38 PM
So... we meet again Mr. Bob.  (Or do you a phd?)


No.  This forum IS big enough for the both of us.

I am Bob without pie.  (Bob checks)  Yep, I have no pie.  No pie at all.


That's what I thought.  It's Schirmer.  But then apparently it's Kirkpatrick so he's the Scarlatti expert and it's ok.
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Re: Scarlatti sonatas complete
Reply #5 on: January 20, 2009, 02:19:14 PM
schirmir is edited to death i would avoid it
The Kirckpatrick editions of Scarlatti are fine, they are not edited by way of fingering or phrasing or anything like that - it's a clean copy.  But, there are only 60 of the 550 odd.
I think Ricordi is the only one who has produced them all in 11 volumes I think.
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Offline richard black

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Re: Scarlatti sonatas complete
Reply #6 on: January 20, 2009, 03:03:22 PM
Yes, Ricordi has the complete sonatas. It's an old edition, by Longo from 1910, but I've never seen a more recent complete set.
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Re: Scarlatti sonatas complete
Reply #7 on: January 20, 2009, 06:02:03 PM
The Heugel edition of 1984 is complete.

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Offline bob3.1415926

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Re: Scarlatti sonatas complete
Reply #8 on: January 20, 2009, 10:50:32 PM
Thanks for the answers. I'd read that Kirkpatrick, not Longo, was the way forward. The Heugel edition seems to cost ~ £100 per volume, and there are 11 volumes, so I'm not sure I like Scarlatti enough to financially ruin myself.

Hello again Bob, sorry I haven't been on in ages, since I finished my studies and got a job, I've been struggling to find enough time to play the piano, let alone write about it on the internet, so have neglected this forum somewhat :(

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Re: Scarlatti sonatas complete
Reply #9 on: January 21, 2009, 02:23:31 AM
How dare you neglect the forum, Bob with pie!  That's very un-Bob-like.  You're going to get yourself a second o if you keep that up.  (That's a joke.  Came out harsher than I thought, but it's a joke.)


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Re: Scarlatti sonatas complete
Reply #10 on: April 12, 2010, 10:04:24 PM
I'm just looking for Sonata K. 141. I was very disappointed to see in the huge list here on Piano Street K. 141 was absent, unless I missed it.

Where could I find this piece? I will continue looking, but thought I would here in case it proves quicker in the search.

Thank you

Offline hansscherff

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Re: Scarlatti sonatas complete
Reply #11 on: April 13, 2010, 10:10:05 AM
I'm just looking for Sonata K. 141. I was very disappointed to see in the huge list here on Piano Street K. 141 was absent, unless I missed it.

Where could I find this piece? I will continue looking, but thought I would here in case it proves quicker in the search.

Thank you

You can find it on the IMSLP website i think, its the one in b minor right? Beautiful sonata!

Offline justinwol

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Re: Scarlatti sonatas complete
Reply #12 on: April 13, 2010, 07:01:48 PM
Thank you! What a nice website, I never knew it existed. Very beautiful!

Offline jcabraham

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Re: Scarlatti sonatas complete
Reply #13 on: April 15, 2010, 01:10:52 AM
I have them.  I think it's Schirmer, yellowish covers.  Two volumes.  Kirkpatrick, editor.  That's what was recommended to me. 

I think those were mentioned on this site before too.  Maybe do a search.

That's really all 500? I have a fairly large volume by Schirmer, and it's only 60 sonatas. You'd need like 9 volumes....

P.S. These are not "edited to death." R.K. was an early music scholar and followed the HIP practice of minimal editorial interference.

Offline Bob

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Re: Scarlatti sonatas complete
Reply #14 on: April 15, 2010, 08:50:52 PM
No, it's just some of them. 

I heard the number they found was up to over 600 several years ago.
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