Piano annaoying dad :(

[bellywelly]

Hello all.
Dad, the one who pays for my piano lessons, is complaining about how im always annoying him with the piano. As the piano is in the lounge with the tv: either the tv's on, or i'm on the piano, or dad and i are biting at each other.
i do realise that im on the piano for quite long hours per day, and im disturbing dad's tv shows
The piano is in the corner and echos loudly. it does not own any wheels, and the floor is timber.
i was thinking of moving the piano into my room (that'd be heaven! piano 24/7, anytime). but, i have no idea how to move it. it's so heavy...and im certain dad wouldnt pay for someone to come and move it.
please help.

[thalbergmad]

Give me dads e mail and i will sort it out.

Thal

[antichrist]

Give me dads e mail and i will sort it out.

Thal

I can do that as well


by the way don't play when ur dad is at presence or he's watching tv

[go12_3]

Have your dad get a portable TV so that he can move it into HIS bedroom!   
Your dad should and ought to be  supportive of your piano playing.   
You take the inititive and talk to him about your feelings and come up with a
solution, like him moving the TV elsewhere.  Take control of your problem
and turn it around.  Good luck! 

best wishes,

go2_3

[bellywelly]

thal & antichrist: thanks for the offer, but my dad doesnt have an email    he's an antisocial.

go123: he DOES have a tv in his own bedroom, but he just likes to watch tv in the lounge, he's like, stuck to the sofa with bumblegum.

yes, i know it seems like giving in to dad, but, i think the best way is to move the piano

[go12_3]

I'm sorry to hear about your dad not willing to budge from his sofa, I mean, how does he
expect you to progress in piano playing?  Well, get a couple of friends and get those
furniture coasters to move that piano into your bedroom.   These coasters can be placed under the wheels of the piano for easy moving.  Have fun and when you are able to move out of
house and home, then take the piano with you.   

best wishes,

go12_3

[shevinka]

Hello all.
Dad, the one who pays for my piano lessons, is complaining about how im always annoying him with the piano. As the piano is in the lounge with the tv: either the tv's on, or i'm on the piano, or dad and i are biting at each other.
i do realise that im on the piano for quite long hours per day, and im disturbing dad's tv shows
The piano is in the corner and echos loudly. it does not own any wheels, and the floor is timber.
i was thinking of moving the piano into my room (that'd be heaven! piano 24/7, anytime). but, i have no idea how to move it. it's so heavy...and im certain dad wouldnt pay for someone to come and move it.
please help. :

No!
You should make an effort to put the piano in your room. You can put a quilt on the floor and move the piano above it. That's what I did, and it worked for me.
My dad also loved hearing radio and music which drove me mad. It's better ten times over to play in your own private room than play in the living room- especially if you have enough space.

[aslanov]

I can do that as well


by the way don't play when ur dad is at presence or he's watching tv

Screw that. My dad was like that too (granted my piano is now in my room). but for the full year my piano was in the lounge area, he'd always tell me to stop playing, so i just told him to deal with it, and if he's not gonna be supportive, to go watch tv elsewhere. You gotta put your foot down. Your not being harsh, your not being rude, he's just not being understanding/supportive of your eagerness to learn. AND if he wants to be able to watch tv in the lounge, tell him to hire someone to move it to your room, or, again, deal with it.

[bellywelly]

shevinka and go: i tried lifting the piano by myself today, but it just wouldnt lift a millimeter. though i DO have books on top of the piano, but not an awful stack. should i try pulling the piano apart to make it lighter and try lifting again? which parts of the piano is easy to pull off and put back on without any problems? or, should i just call up some of my guy friends to help out? how many teenage skinny guys would do the job? (all my mates a skinny )
but, i would rather if i could do the moving of the piano on my own and not call up any help, because then my dad would make a fuse and get angry at all the hassle im making

[gep]

It would seem it's not YOU who'se making the hassle! He pays for your lessons, right? So the  he should have the patience to understand you need the time to practice said lessons, I think! And yes, it makes more noise than playing cards....

[bellywelly]

^ agreed.

i think he would rather pay for my car playing lesson now that he realised im starting to love piano so much im on it whenever im free (around 5-6 hrs per day, including the fiddle-arounds)

[iroveashe]

I had the same problem. Eventually, after insisting, my dad moved the TV to the kitchen, though he says he did it because it was cold in the other room.

[bellywelly]

aww...that's so sweet of your dad 
wish my dad would do that...

[iroveashe]

aww...that's so sweet of your dad 
wish my dad would do that...

Then you should insist into having a proper learning environment

[go12_3]

When I was learning to play piano in my childhood, my parents never complained about
the piano at all.  We lived in an apartment in Evanston, Illinois, so the rooms were small and the piano was located in the dinning area.  I was most happy throughout those years as I played away.
The neighbors didn't complain either!  I appreciate how my parents were supportive at
that time.   

best wishes,

go12_3

[shevinka]

shevinka and go: i tried lifting the piano by myself today, but it just wouldnt lift a millimeter. though i DO have books on top of the piano, but not an awful stack. should i try pulling the piano apart to make it lighter and try lifting again? which parts of the piano is easy to pull off and put back on without any problems? or, should i just call up some of my guy friends to help out? how many teenage skinny guys would do the job? (all my mates a skinny )
but, i would rather if i could do the moving of the piano on my own and not call up any help, because then my dad would make a fuse and get angry at all the hassle im making

It is puite impossible to move a piano on your own, my brother in law helped me.
Better not to pull apart the piano when not a professional. I would use a mover or a few friends.
Or mabye dad will help in order to reduce the amount of noise...

[samjohnson]

hmm...

Remind your father that while your hobby is one of the most noble his is one of the most degenerate.  
On second thought, don't.  Just use that to console yourself.  Perhaps, though, it would be best if you left the piano in with the TV and were able to force your father to develop a hobby of his own.  Watching TV is a waste of time and should never be allowed to Trump piano playing in such a situation. 

[bellywelly]

Remind your father that while your hobby is one of the most noble his is one of the most degenerate.  
On second thought, don't.  Just use that to console yourself.  

totally agreed. finally i found someone with similiar thoughts. i just dont get whats's so addictive about tv. 

my paino teacher said she only needed two people to lift the piano onto a mat (to slide the piano around) do you guys think two people is enough?

yeah, maybe i shouldn't pull my piano apart...

go: your piano playing must be so beautiful to be stopped

[aslanov]

totally agreed. finally i found someone with similiar thoughts. i just dont get whats's so addictive about tv. 

my paino teacher said she only needed two people to lift the piano onto a mat (to slide the piano around) do you guys think two people is enough?

yeah, maybe i shouldn't pull my piano apart...

go: your piano playing must be so beautiful to be stopped

Do not say that to your father, because then you'd just be antagonizing him. It is not a degenerative addiction. I'm sure your father just comes home tired from work or something, and what better to do than stretch out on the couch and let some people on the telly entertain you.
But that still doesn't condone his attitude.
You know what its pretty straightforward, and this is how its ultimately going to have to go down.
You're going to have to tell your dad "Either deal with me playing it here, or get some movers to put it in my room" that's it. You can pussyfoot around it all you want, or try to be the most accomodating and subordinate child in existence, but it just wont work.

[bellywelly]

i dont think you get the situation...my dad wouldn't pay for someone to move the piano, neither would he put up with me playing when he's watching his stupid tv shows. i've tried my best in dealing with him, but, he's just so stubborn. "If your talented, an hour is more than enough. Aren't you talented now?" he doesnt really like piano, i've nagged him forever to let me continue with piano after grade 8 (exams i mean).

i think i'll get a friend to help me move the piano into my room so i get to play 24/7  i seriously cant wait! hope it'll be succesful.

thanks for everyone's advice so far! 

[go12_3]

Hey, good luck in moving your piano into your bedroom. That will be the best
course of action and then you will be happy to play whenever you want and
that's the main thing:  piano=happy   

best wishes,

go12_3

[aslanov]

i dont think you get the situation...my dad wouldn't pay for someone to move the piano, neither would he put up with me playing when he's watching his stupid tv shows. i've tried my best in dealing with him, but, he's just so stubborn. "If your talented, an hour is more than enough. Aren't you talented now?" he doesnt really like piano, i've nagged him forever to let me continue with piano after grade 8 (exams i mean).

i think i'll get a friend to help me move the piano into my room so i get to play 24/7  i seriously cant wait! hope it'll be succesful.

thanks for everyone's advice so far! 

I get the situation quite well. And my point still stands. "aren't you talented now?" what does that even mean....whoaa

[bellywelly]

I get the situation quite well. And my point still stands. "aren't you talented now?" what does that even mean....whoaa

yes..he's quite harsh with his choosing of words i'd say. but, im still grateful he pays for my piano lessons

[nanabush]

I had a similar issue with my brother; the piano is in the sunroom, and his room is connected to the sunroom via a very non-soundproof door.  I'm playing the piano in the afternoon and I can hear banging on the door because he's trying to take a nap!  Thankfully I don't have to deal with that anymore because I pretty much stay on campus 8 hours a day; any time in there I can just go to a piano.

Now, since my parents occasionally tell me stop playing, I just say "plug your ears then".  It's either if they're watching a new episode of "Bones" or "Criminal Minds", and the TV is freaking loud, or if I'm playing something that they don't like, like Ginastera.  "Plug your ears", and then they give me a really ugly look and walk away.  I don't care if it makes them angry, but at least I still get to play 

[kay3087]

What are you playing? If you're playing Schumann then I can understand why it would be annoying.


Tha— oops.

[jazzyprof]

Tell your dad how much you appreciate him paying for piano lessons for you.  Thank him profusely.  Tell him that in order to ensure that the money he is spending on lessons is not wasted you need to practice X hours a day.  Ask him if he will help you move the piano into your room so you will not interfere with his TV watching.  You can rent a moving dolly from a hardware store for a few bucks to facilitate the move.

[bellywelly]

im playing brahms, close enough?

jazzy: yeah, im moving the piano a few weeks later, i cant stand him complaining anymore. i'm going to round up a few of my mates to help me

[artsyalchemist]

That really sucks.  I'm one of those people who doesn't like people listening to me practice...too bad that's not an option!

I would suggest maybe working out a schedule so that he can enjoy his TV at times when you're not practicing.