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Offline atlantisrobo

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...Mkay so how do I play this.
on: December 01, 2009, 01:29:05 AM
Friend showed me this one song from a video game, and I loved it. So I wanted to play it on the piano aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand.....

Well because I just started (like one month, teaching myself) this is piece is extremely difficult:
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I have the music sheet (you can find it in the descriptions)
NOTE: I AM NOT THE ONE PLAYING IN THIS VIDEO

The problem I have right now is the intro.
I can't really seem to be quick enough to hit the higher notes fast enough, so it sounds really slow when I play it in the beginning.
Is it just "keep practicing" or does anyone have any useful tips for it?

Offline gyzzzmo

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Re: ...Mkay so how do I play this.
Reply #1 on: December 01, 2009, 07:16:53 AM
Practise for a couple of years and you probably should take a teacher.
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Re: ...Mkay so how do I play this.
Reply #2 on: December 01, 2009, 08:29:47 AM
It's not that bad, i think you're talented, but you have the typical tense wrists and weird fingering that many self tought pianists have, so yes gyzz is right, get a teacher.

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Re: ...Mkay so how do I play this.
Reply #3 on: December 01, 2009, 09:34:01 AM
The beginning is slow?!  If you go any faster your hands are going to melt.  It really does sound like a video game score.  Why don't you put your skills to something a bit "deeper"shall we say?  I bet you 'd be good at jazz improv.  Like Yamanaka or Matsui, to name a few.

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Re: ...Mkay so how do I play this.
Reply #4 on: December 01, 2009, 11:39:46 AM
I dont think its him who's playing it, its just a video of wich piece he wants to play and he wants to learn to play it like the guy on the vid does.
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Re: ...Mkay so how do I play this.
Reply #5 on: December 01, 2009, 11:47:33 AM
HI,

I think the two "repliers" thought you were playing on the video. If I understand it right, you've watched the video and you'd struggling to get the same result.

I'm a beginner too. From the little I know, it'll take you lots of practice to get it that fast. I'd first learn the notes, at least for a few measures, then play it slowly (at a speed where I don't make mistakes), then accelerate it little by little. Eventually you'll get it as fast as on the video. The time it'll take you depends on how much you practice.

I also think you should break it into two pieces: right hand and left hand. What I mean is that you can practice them apart before putting them together (when you're learning the notes, choosing the fingering). Usually I only play both hands together when they "know" their notes.

Now, somebody talked about learning "deeper" music. I think one should play whatever gets one's heart ticking. If learning this piece (that I particularly don't like at all) makes you happy, go for it.

Not everybody dreams of playing Rachmaninoff (I do, but I know I'll probably never get there...
:-[ ).

Keep something in mind, though: your fingers aren't used to such an abuse. You should learn easier things (pieces and exercises) to get your fingers/arms/back used to playing the piano, to extensions (opening your hands wide), to hitting the keys, to performing these surgical gestures with precision. I'm afraid that if you jump to too complicated music before your body's ready to take it, you'll injure yourself! Please, be careful with it.

Think of that: if you had never run, would you start your running "carrier" by running the marathon (42 km) without preparation, without training? Would you start swimming by crossing the Atlantic Ocean?

If you can afford it, look for a teacher for some guidance. If not, at least read a lot (on the net, etc) to get a feeling for what is right for you, for your body.

The piece in the video looks like a lot of abuse for "new-to-the-piano" fingers.

Good luck and don't give up!

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Re: ...Mkay so how do I play this.
Reply #6 on: December 02, 2009, 01:52:46 AM
Yeah, I want to play it pro like that guy, it's not that i'm "that guy"
I guess I'll start easy, well, I did take piano lessons (like ten years ago), and from that I get the basics and know the notes.

Other than that, playing is difficult.
Putting right hand and left hand is hard, because the left hand can't keep up/start to slow and I mainly concentrate on my right hand. And when I concentrate on my left, my right hand goes "wat."

The middle part of the song is fine (for my right)
Mm, my mom suggested me to get an instructor also.

I just don't know when I'll get one.

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Re: ...Mkay so how do I play this.
Reply #7 on: December 03, 2009, 06:32:54 AM
Yeah, I want to play it pro like that guy, it's not that i'm "that guy"
I guess I'll start easy, well, I did take piano lessons (like ten years ago), and from that I get the basics and know the notes.

Other than that, playing is difficult.
Putting right hand and left hand is hard, because the left hand can't keep up/start to slow and I mainly concentrate on my right hand. And when I concentrate on my left, my right hand goes "wat."

The middle part of the song is fine (for my right)
Mm, my mom suggested me to get an instructor also.

I just don't know when I'll get one.

'When' is probably as soon as possible. Unlearning flawed technique is much harder than learning good technique. But i think you have to be an advanced player to be able to play that intro on speed and fluently, so make sure you got the basics right first ;)
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Re: ...Mkay so how do I play this.
Reply #8 on: December 08, 2009, 10:39:55 PM
Seriously, for how long did you take lessons? Beginners can't play this piece, there are a couple of challenges to master and I would say it takes a "normal" person a few years to get the skill to play the octaves properly. The speed of the right hand looks amazing but it doesn't require advanced skills, just a lot of practice is needed - still nothing for newbies.

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Re: ...Mkay so how do I play this.
Reply #9 on: December 10, 2009, 05:45:28 PM
Okay so what you are hearing  is a series of ascending and descending arpeggios played at break neck speed. In order to be able to play this, you would need to build up an incredible speed and strength in your fingers, not to mention an intuitive awareness as to where all the keys are. Basically you have to know exactly what's going to happen next, each movement needs to feel like a part of your previous one. Work on building fluency. Lots of repetition. work your way through the arpeggios slowly then build up speed. your fingers will gradually get used to it. I  can assure you that you are not a failure if you cannot play this passage as quickly right from the get go. Most people of your experience cannot even play a beginners song with much fluency. My goodness, I'm almost Gr. 3 RCM and I would probably have somewhat of a time trying to learn something like that .Maybe start slowly, play some other things that you are confident with as well so you don't get discouraged as quickly. ;D ;D Kudos to you for trying such an involved piece!
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Re: ...Mkay so how do I play this.
Reply #10 on: December 10, 2009, 07:12:26 PM

NOTE: I AM NOT THE ONE PLAYING IN THIS VIDEO

Okay, got it. Anyway, I think what I wrote above about the one playing in the video is right, at least to me it doesn't seem to be an example of a good technique, sure it's fast but it looks too stiff, in the fast parts, and the fingers are too far away from the keys. Plus, some weird fingerings, like playing the chromatic scale with 1212121...
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