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Topic: Who plays prokofiev toccata better? Horowitz or Argerich?  (Read 3504 times)

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Re: Who plays prokofiev toccata better? Horowitz or Argerich?
Reply #1 on: December 09, 2009, 05:55:24 AM
None of them beat Samson Francois!
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Re: Who plays prokofiev toccata better? Horowitz or Argerich?
Reply #2 on: December 09, 2009, 06:44:17 AM
Interesting comparison.  I also listened to the Prokofiev recording which I had never heard.  In the first two, the big difference is the recording itself.  The '44 recording had a wonderful full sound to the piano with lots of harmonics.  Argerich's was very dry and typically recording studio material.  I'll have to opt for Horowitz.  The Prokofiev was really interesing.   Wonderful wonderful sound and piano tone.  Never never a harsh sound.  And I enjoyed the bridge to the coda with no stopping.  Certainly not technically up to par with the the other two, but I enjoyed it immensely.

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Re: Who plays prokofiev toccata better? Horowitz or Argerich?
Reply #3 on: December 16, 2009, 03:03:36 AM
These are both actually fairly bad.  Horowitz is dropping notes (and an entire passage of the piece) like crazy, and Argerich's has about as much emotion as my cell phone does x:
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Re: Who plays prokofiev toccata better? Horowitz or Argerich?
Reply #4 on: December 16, 2009, 08:15:09 AM
These are both actually fairly bad.

As they say, the beauty is in the eyes of beholder.
There is a recording of young Berman (don't confuse with later one). Quite different from Horowitz, but still very good stuff... Unlike some wannabes like Argerich...

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Re: Who plays prokofiev toccata better? Horowitz or Argerich?
Reply #5 on: December 16, 2009, 09:22:01 AM
As they say, the beauty is in the eyes of beholder.
There is a recording of young Berman (don't confuse with later one). Quite different from Horowitz, but still very good stuff... Unlike some wannabes like Argerich...

Best, M

Referring to this one? (Ironic that I uploaded this literally last night, lol)




Or the other one?  I have one other one which is slightly slower, and also live.  Or, are there maybe more than two?  I assume the 1956 Budapest one is the "old" one?  I happen to like the "newer" one more, but I can go ahead and upload the '56 for these guys to hear if you think they oughta D:
If this work is so threatening, it is not because it's simply strange, but competent, rigorously argued and carrying conviction.

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Re: Who plays prokofiev toccata better? Horowitz or Argerich?
Reply #6 on: December 17, 2009, 05:51:09 PM
Superlative.  loved it.

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Re: Who plays prokofiev toccata better? Horowitz or Argerich?
Reply #7 on: November 06, 2011, 09:21:06 PM
I like Argerich's playing although both are just as good.
Funny? How? How am I funny?
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