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Offline Bob

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Where to buy scores for modern composers?
on: May 25, 2010, 02:32:28 AM
I'm not quite sure on this one.

If it's a modern, semi-popular composer, along the lines of Philip Glass, where do you find music like that?
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Re: Where to buy scores for modern composers?
Reply #1 on: May 25, 2010, 03:22:38 AM
Have you tried Sheet Music Plus?  It's probably the most popular online retailer.

A search on Philip Glass returned 37 hits:

https://www.sheetmusicplus.com/search?q=philip+glass
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Re: Where to buy scores for modern composers?
Reply #2 on: May 25, 2010, 04:40:44 AM
www.musicroom.com

This is another great site for buying works by modern composers.

And why in the world would you want to buy sheet music by Philip Glass? His music is terrible, and you can notate a good deal of it by ear.

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Re: Where to buy scores for modern composers?
Reply #3 on: May 25, 2010, 05:43:32 AM

And why in the world would you want to buy sheet music by Philip Glass? His music is terrible, and you can notate a good deal of it by ear.
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Maybe a slightly different pronunciation of "sheet" was what the enquirer had in mind...

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Re: Where to buy scores for modern composers?
Reply #4 on: May 25, 2010, 02:45:29 PM
www.musicroom.com

This is another great site for buying works by modern composers.

And why in the world would you want to buy sheet music by Philip Glass? His music is terrible, and you can notate a good deal of it by ear.

Music differs from let us say mathematics. There is nothing true or false in music. Glass' music can sound good to someone, and bad to you.

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Re: Where to buy scores for modern composers?
Reply #5 on: May 25, 2010, 02:50:21 PM
Music differs from let us say mathematics. There is nothing true or false in music. Glass' music can sound good to someone, and bad to you.
Indeed - and it would almost certainly be advisable not to ask Elliott Carter how it sounds to him! In any case, sheets of Glass can have their practical uses, after all...

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Re: Where to buy scores for modern composers?
Reply #6 on: May 25, 2010, 04:47:15 PM
Music differs from let us say mathematics. There is nothing true or false in music. Glass' music can sound good to someone, and bad to you.
There is.  A perfect 5th is a perfect 5th and a V-I is a V-I.  Mathematics also has its aesthetics as does chess.

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Re: Where to buy scores for modern composers?
Reply #7 on: May 25, 2010, 06:00:34 PM
!!!

Maybe a slightly different pronunciation of "sheet" was what the enquirer had in mind...

As you were...

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Alistair
You mean "shoot music of Philip Glass"? ;D
Intriguingly, he has a piece called Mad Rush (for piano). I will remain silent on its qualities of "rush", and, for that matter, "mad".
All that said, I kinda like his 8th Symphony, especially the last two movements are no threat to the ear. I occasionally play it at work and in my car. You know, where you like some music but not so that it takes your attention from what you are currently doing... ;)

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Re: Where to buy scores for modern composers?
Reply #8 on: May 25, 2010, 06:51:17 PM
There is.  A perfect 5th is a perfect 5th and a V-I is a V-I.  Mathematics also has its aesthetics as does chess.

How should I respond to this?

My point:
This is not a fact: Chopin's ballade no.1 is amazingly beautiful. It's an opinion.

This is a fact: 2+2=4. It is synthetic a priori, to borough from Kant.

Saying a perfect 5th is a perfect 5th is circular logic, but it is besides the point. I was only talking about tastes in music. Of course there are facts in music that are irrefutable: Chopin was a composer, a c-major chord has more than one note etc. But this is not about peoples taste in music.

This is not a fact: Mathematics also has its aesthetics as does chess.

I agree about both points (mathematics and chess), but it is not a fact. It is your opinion (and also mine).

Now this is off-topic.

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Re: Where to buy scores for modern composers?
Reply #9 on: May 25, 2010, 07:31:04 PM
How is it not a fact that fields like math, chess or music have pertinent esthetic considerations?  People can (and do) debate esthetic values, which I think are matters of personal opinion.  However, I don't believe that's true for the existence of esthetics per se.
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Re: Where to buy scores for modern composers?
Reply #10 on: May 25, 2010, 07:48:06 PM
This is a fact: 2+2=4. It is synthetic a priori, to borough from Kant.
In my book, hate to disagree with Kant, it's analytic a priori.  And Chopin's ballade no.1 is amazingly beautiful however you look at it.

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Re: Where to buy scores for modern composers?
Reply #11 on: May 25, 2010, 08:25:31 PM
In my book, hate to disagree with Kant, it's analytic a priori.  And Chopin's ballade no.1 is amazingly beautiful however you look at it.

My older brother disagrees with you ;)

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Re: Where to buy scores for modern composers?
Reply #12 on: May 25, 2010, 08:26:51 PM
My older brother disagrees with you ;)
What, on Chopin or Kant?

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Re: Where to buy scores for modern composers?
Reply #13 on: May 25, 2010, 08:41:05 PM
What, on Chopin or Kant?

Chopin. He is stupid :) Hehe. About Kant: It is not important for the topic.

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Re: Where to buy scores for modern composers?
Reply #14 on: May 25, 2010, 08:57:36 PM
Chopin. He is stupid :) Hehe.
Sheesh, I wouldn't even say that of Schumann!

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Re: Where to buy scores for modern composers?
Reply #15 on: May 25, 2010, 09:05:09 PM
I kinda like his 8th Symphony
Alles vergängliche especially, no doubt! Oh, sorry, I got that wrong - you mean that massive symphony in C minor with a glorious slow movement in D flat major - or - oh, wait a minute, maybe you're talking about a much smaller symphony in the key of F that has a most remarkable side-slip towards the end of its finale from F# minor to F major - or even... Oh, forget it; I've quite obviously missed the whole point!

especially the last two movements are no threat to the ear
But what music by Glass ever does do that?

I occasionally play it at work
I would not have thought that a distinguished microbiologist would need to do this in order to prove that, in certain circumstances, milk can curdle...

and in my car.
OK, so, just out of mild curiosity, is it technically possible in certain such circumstances for petrol and/or diesel to curdle as well?

For me, the eyes glaze over first - and then the brain - whenever such sounds are in earshot for any length of time. Sorry!

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Re: Where to buy scores for modern composers?
Reply #16 on: May 26, 2010, 06:03:51 AM
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For me, the eyes glaze over first - and then the brain - whenever such sounds are in earshot for any length of time.
Which explains the unusual make-up of your message? :D
Didn't you mean to write "the eyes glass over first - and then the brain"? ;D

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Sorry!
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I would not have thought that a distinguished microbiologist would need to do this in orer to prove that, in certain circumstances, milk can curdle...
Oh no, for that I merely need to have to do with certain collegues for any lenght of time (say >5 sec), and then look at said milk. It may the go rock solid in one go!

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OK, so, just out of mild curiosity, is it technically possible in certain such circumstances for petrol and/or diesel to curdle as well?
I would not know, for my car uses neither (well, a bit of petrol for starters)!

All that said, Glass's 8th is his least repetitive (i.e. least Glass-like). Shall I make you a copy? ;)

All that said, those 8th's you mention are indeed rather higher on my likeabillity list (as are Pettersson's, Schubert's and Shostakovich's!

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Re: Where to buy scores for modern composers?
Reply #17 on: May 26, 2010, 10:08:05 AM
Which explains the unusual make-up of your message? :D
Didn't you mean to write "the eyes glass over first - and then the brain"? ;D
The unusual make-up of my message as it was before I just corrected was down to sheer carelessness and I cannot and do not even claim as an excuse that I was listening to Glass at the time!

I would not know, for my car uses neither (well, a bit of petrol for starters)!
Is your car a fuel hybrid one, then?

All that said, Glass's 8th is his least repetitive (i.e. least Glass-like). Shall I make you a copy? ;)
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You can make me a coffee if you like; I could do with one right now! None of that microbiological dairy produce in it, though, s'il vous plaît!

Remembering Stravinsky's notorious barb about Strauss "If Richard, then Wagner; if Strauss, then Johann" (to which my immediate retort when first I heard it was "if Igor, then Prince"), one might suggest "if Glass, then Louis", illustrating as it would that whatever may have been "rotten in the state of Denmark", it was nothing like as rotten as in the state of Maryland in 1937...

All that said, those 8th's you mention are indeed rather higher on my likeabillity list (as are Pettersson's, Schubert's and Shostakovich's!
As on mine, for all that I'm no great Schubertian and that Pettersson's Eighth Symphony, whilst perhaps one of his more popular, is not perhaps his most outstanding; the Shostakovich, however, is truly astonishing - all the more so when one realises that he composed it in a mere three weeks!...

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Re: Where to buy scores for modern composers?
Reply #18 on: May 26, 2010, 10:58:37 AM
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Is your car a fuel hybrid one, then?
Nope, Liquid Petrol Gas (we have, as you may know, quite a supply of natural gas in our little country, as well as an equal amount of hot air in its inhabitants!). The difference is some €0,75 per liter to my advantage, or €23-25 per fuelling (which I do roughly once a week).

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You want 5 copies? Quite an appetite! ;D

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the Shostakovich, however, is truly astonishing - all the more so when one realises that he composed it in a mere three weeks!...
Wrote it down in three weeks that is, I do not know how much time he took to compose it (DDS being one of those who have a whole work ready in their head before starting to write things down; rather the opposite to Igor, not the Prince!)

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Re: Where to buy scores for modern composers?
Reply #19 on: May 26, 2010, 11:05:59 AM
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Sheet music for modern composers turns into liquid petrol gas.

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Re: Where to buy scores for modern composers?
Reply #20 on: May 26, 2010, 01:12:20 PM
Wrote it down in three weeks that is, I do not know how much time he took to compose it (DDS being one of those who have a whole work ready in their head before starting to write things down; rather the opposite to Igor, not the Prince!)
Well, yes, indeed - although even writing that full score down in three weeks is quite a feat in itself!

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Re: Where to buy scores for modern composers?
Reply #21 on: May 28, 2010, 02:19:02 AM
Sheet music Plus. I use it all the time. Amazon also has music, but not good quality and probably doesn't have what you are looking for.
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