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Topic: Can I have your comment on my record of Liebestraum?  (Read 4518 times)

Offline kantsuiex

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Just a random shot of my practicing. And I will further polish this...

I know the first cadenza is not well played..
Besides this, can anyone tell me that if I am in the right direction of learning this piece?
Any suggestion on increasing the musicality?
Thanks=)

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Re: Can I have your comment on my record of Liebestraum?
Reply #1 on: April 01, 2011, 06:26:13 PM
Your technique doesn't live up to your musicality. I have listened also to your Campanella. I really rarely listen to any Campanellas anymore!!! Because most renditions of this piece just make me cringe. But your's somehow moved me because there are relly beautiful moments in it :)

But really there are many things that you could only work out together with a real teacher, of course!!

Like the proper use of the syncopated pedal, for instance! I think you have never learned how to use the pedal at all!!!

But first of all, I think that you have loads of tension in your wrist and also in your fingers! This needs to be resolved, as soon as possible! There is just NO WAY you could continue like this!!
It's most clearly hearable and visible in your video of Comptine d'un autre été. This sounds tense and mechanical, and it also looks tense and mechanical! And this is a technical problem which you can only resolve together with a good teacher, step by step!

Regarding Liebestraum: If I was your teacher, I probably would let you sing the melody first, and I strongly recommend to listen to the vocal version as well! The melody gets always interrupted by the "pianistic" stuff! Let the melody unfold and let the pianistic stuff, like arpeggios and all that, just group itself around the melody! The melody is the queen, you know? She might not be really amused if she always has to wait for the last note of an arpeggio to appear before she can sing her guts out!! ;)

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Re: Can I have your comment on my record of Liebestraum?
Reply #2 on: April 02, 2011, 05:51:34 AM
Thanks pianowolfi.
I know my technique sucks, but I really love this song and another song so I wanna play them by my own.
As you said there is too much tension in my fingers, is it because my wrist is too low or I sit too low?
I really wanna rectify this bad habit.
Or, I should really find a teacher to deal with this.

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Re: Can I have your comment on my record of Liebestraum?
Reply #3 on: April 02, 2011, 08:47:38 AM
Thanks pianowolfi.
I know my technique sucks, but I really love this song and another song so I wanna play them by my own.
As you said there is too much tension in my fingers, is it because my wrist is too low or I sit too low?
I really wanna rectify this bad habit.
Or, I should really find a teacher to deal with this.

From the video i can't say if you sit too low because I see only your hands and wrists, most of the time.
Yes I would strongly recommend to get a teacher! I think you have a good potential and you will progress much more with good 1:1 advice!

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Re: Can I have your comment on my record of Liebestraum?
Reply #4 on: April 02, 2011, 09:03:59 AM
Here are you two options:

1. You don't find a teacher: You learn this PIECE (not song) by yourself, it sounds rather bad, and the technical parts doesn't work.. But at least you learn it by yourself, eh!?

2. You get a teacher: You learn this piece (and you'll learn that it's called a piece, not a song) by yourself, but with help from a teacher, it sounds quite good and your technique will improve.

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Re: Can I have your comment on my record of Liebestraum?
Reply #5 on: April 03, 2011, 02:29:43 AM
I could be mistaken about this...

But could you kindly CUT YOUR FINGERNAILS!!!

I heard them clicking all the way through the middle section - was kind of distracting.

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Re: Can I have your comment on my record of Liebestraum?
Reply #6 on: April 04, 2011, 12:19:24 AM
if you gotten that far largely self taught, my hat is off to you.

tuning issues on the piano and the recording itself were a bit distracting, but it is a gorgeous piece.

is your recording compressed, by the way ?  dynamic contrast wasn't as sharp as I would have expected.

sections were clean, but the melody line in many places struggled to be heard.  Without respect to the mechanic technique, at least in my opinion, you can make your interpretation of this stronger be focusing less on the background movement, and more on the beautiful melody within this piece.

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Re: Can I have your comment on my record of Liebestraum?
Reply #7 on: April 07, 2011, 12:41:50 AM

i have tried to eradicate my bad habit.
I tried to seat higher and keep my wrist relaxed.
it really feels so great coz I can make the dynamic more contrast :)
Thanks for you guys comment, I really appreciate it.
At the same time, i discovered some mechanical problem in my piano...
The pedal perhaps is rusted...so you can hear some friction sound which is so annoying :'(
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