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Riddle #6
on: August 23, 2004, 05:34:41 AM
:-[  Sorry!!!! guessed and then had to get ready to go away for three days.  Had plans to check back just before I left, but it didn't happen.   Thanks for being patient  (I thought someome else would just have a go instead)

Okay!  I'm thinking.  First cryptic clue:  nimble fingers make light work of this piece.
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #1 on: August 23, 2004, 06:00:44 AM
Was the composer Russian?
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #2 on: August 23, 2004, 06:06:13 AM
No.
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #3 on: August 23, 2004, 06:11:17 AM
Was the composer a well known vituoso?
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #4 on: August 23, 2004, 06:25:18 AM
Yes!  (of 2 instruments)
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #5 on: August 23, 2004, 08:07:58 AM
Is the number "5" in the full title of this piece?
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #6 on: August 23, 2004, 11:01:21 AM
No.
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #7 on: August 23, 2004, 12:03:16 PM
Is the composer European?
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #8 on: August 23, 2004, 01:33:52 PM
Was the composer a well known child prodigy?
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #9 on: August 23, 2004, 01:44:11 PM
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Is the composer European?


Yes!
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #10 on: August 23, 2004, 01:45:10 PM
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Was the composer a well known child prodigy?


Yes!  He was a well known child prodigy in his time and place.  
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #11 on: August 23, 2004, 02:44:47 PM
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Yes!  He was a well known child prodigy in his time and place.  


Did the composer lived most of his adult life (and died) in Vienna?
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #12 on: August 23, 2004, 02:47:04 PM
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Did the composer lived most of his adult life (and died) in Vienna?


No.
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #13 on: August 23, 2004, 02:57:01 PM
Was the composer's father Jewish, but then converted to catholicism?
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #14 on: August 23, 2004, 03:03:53 PM
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Was the composer's father Jewish, but then converted to catholicism?


No.

You  may need to narrow it down to the time period first(and the 2 instruments is a clue ...)
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #15 on: August 23, 2004, 03:05:48 PM
Ok. Was the composer from the romantic period?
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #16 on: August 23, 2004, 03:23:59 PM
Was the composer from the Baroque period?
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #17 on: August 23, 2004, 03:32:40 PM
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Ok. Was the composer from the romantic period?


No.
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #18 on: August 23, 2004, 03:33:20 PM
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Was the composer from the Baroque period?


Yes!
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #19 on: August 23, 2004, 03:37:49 PM
Assuming that piano is the first instrument the composer was good at, does the second instrument result in calluses?
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #20 on: August 23, 2004, 03:46:56 PM
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Assuming that piano is the first instrument the composer was good at, does the second instrument result in calluses?


No.  And keep in mind that the piano wasn't played in the Baroque era.  (This piece today is played and has been recorded on piano though).
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #21 on: August 23, 2004, 07:44:59 PM
Is the piece part of a larger set of pieces, or are there many pieces by the same composer of the same name?
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #22 on: August 24, 2004, 04:55:46 AM
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Is the piece part of a larger set of pieces, quote]

No.


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are there many pieces by the same composer of the same name?


No.  

(Is that two questions in the one post? :o)

It is one piece that is this callous-free child prodigy (played for someone extremely famous at 6) virtuoso of two instruments(both claviers) Baroque European composer's most famous work.
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #23 on: August 25, 2004, 01:57:52 AM
Can I have a cryptic statement?
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #24 on: August 25, 2004, 02:00:17 AM
Cryptic clue:  Dukas, Duparc, Debussy ... though far removed.
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #25 on: August 25, 2004, 02:19:41 AM
The piece is "Le Coucou" by composer Louis Claude-Dacquin (1694 - 1772), who like Dukas, Duparc and Debussy was French, and who as a child prodigly was brought to king Louis XIV.

Although his "Pieces de clavecin" contain numerous suites, "le Coucou" is pretty much the only piece of his that is known.
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #26 on: August 25, 2004, 02:25:38 AM
Congratulations!

I noticed you recommended it as a not too difficult show off piece.

Well done Bernhard, the game is yours!
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #27 on: August 25, 2004, 02:35:36 AM
I must confess I was at a loss, since every clue seemed to point to to Mozart, as there are not that many Baroque child prodigies. I had forgotten that Dacquin was Baroque ::)

Anyway.

This composer may be not so well-known, yet he is definitely a "major minor". The set of ten pieces I am thinking about caused quite a (positive) stir when first performed.
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #28 on: August 25, 2004, 02:52:05 AM
Is the composer from the Romantic era?
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #29 on: August 25, 2004, 03:07:13 AM
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Is the composer from the Romantic era?


No, not really. But he is very close.
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #30 on: August 25, 2004, 03:09:30 AM
Ok - Random guess.  I'll guess 19th century Cuban Dances by Leucona.
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #31 on: August 25, 2004, 03:11:32 AM
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Ok - Random guess.  I'll guess 19th century Cuban Dances by Leucona.


Er... No. :'(
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #32 on: August 25, 2004, 03:16:10 AM
Ok, random guesses don't work so well.  Was the composer French?
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #33 on: August 25, 2004, 03:20:56 AM
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Ok, random guesses don't work so well.  Was the composer French?


Yes! :D
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #34 on: August 25, 2004, 03:25:58 AM
Was the composer primarily known for opera?
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #35 on: August 25, 2004, 03:26:18 AM
is this piece longer than 5 minutes
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #36 on: August 25, 2004, 03:56:36 AM
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Was the composer primarily known for opera?


I don't think so, although he did compose some operas.
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #37 on: August 25, 2004, 03:57:56 AM
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is this piece longer than 5 minutes


Yes. The pieces within the set vary in length. The whole set should be played in 35 - 40 minutes.
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #38 on: August 25, 2004, 04:10:18 AM
Was the composer part of Les Six?
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #39 on: August 25, 2004, 05:55:24 AM
Sounds a bit like Ravel's Valse Nobles et Sentimentales, although that was a negative stir, and there are only 8 pieces in it. Hmm...

Is the composer impressionist?
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #40 on: August 25, 2004, 06:57:32 AM
Emmanuel Chabrier's Dix Pièces pittoresques?
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #41 on: August 25, 2004, 03:30:36 PM
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Emmanuel Chabrier's Dix Pièces pittoresques?



Sorry guys, but

:D :D :D :D :DBenji is da man! :D :D :D :D :D


Well done!

Yes, indeed Chabrier's "Dix pieces pittoresques" is the answer.

A mostly (and unjustifiably) neglected composer, and rarely performed Chabrier was a huge influence on Satie, Debussy and Ravel.

When the pieces were premiered in 1881, Cesar Franck went on record to say:

"We have just heard something extraordinary: Music that connects our time with that of Couperin and Rameau!"

Best wishes,
Bernhard.
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #42 on: August 26, 2004, 01:39:39 AM
Benji, is the composer from Western Europe
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #43 on: August 26, 2004, 01:46:51 AM
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Benji, is the composer from Western Europe


No
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #44 on: August 26, 2004, 02:15:40 AM
Did the composer live during the 1800s
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #45 on: August 26, 2004, 02:37:35 AM
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Did the composer live during the 1800s?

Yes
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #46 on: August 26, 2004, 05:50:26 AM
Is it one of the well known romantic composers
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #47 on: August 26, 2004, 05:58:16 AM
No, not Romantic.
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #48 on: August 26, 2004, 11:09:43 AM
Is the composer Russian?
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #49 on: August 26, 2004, 11:07:54 PM
Yes
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