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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #100 on: September 04, 2004, 02:33:35 AM
no

come on, you haven't asked for a cryptic statement.
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #101 on: September 04, 2004, 02:35:21 AM
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Brahms Theme and Variation (A major) Op.9 for Clara Schumann based on a theme by Robert Schumann?


Hmmmm... Schumann was still alive when those were composed (1854). He even sent a letter to Brahms from the asylum praising the work.

But what about the Schumann variations op. 23, composed in 1861?
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #102 on: September 04, 2004, 02:45:52 AM
not at all, and let me tell you that apart from knowing its by Brahms, you are WAY off.

By the way,

Swan
Bernhard
Rondoallatony

you only have 2 tries left for name of the piece
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #103 on: September 04, 2004, 02:59:27 AM
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not at all, and let me tell you that apart from knowing its by Brahms, you are WAY off.

By the way,

Swan
Bernhard
Rondoallatony

you only have 2 tries left for name of the piece


Well I gave and gave until I could give no more!

And now I'm off to a wedding!  8)
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #104 on: September 04, 2004, 04:04:27 AM
I know Ballade was already stated but was it the 1st one "Edward" in D minor? In the original ballad edward kills his father, his mothers spouse.
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #105 on: September 05, 2004, 12:14:49 AM
nope, but thats a nice guess
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #106 on: September 05, 2004, 04:01:59 AM
Was Schumann the dead spouse?
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #107 on: September 05, 2004, 06:23:26 AM
no
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #108 on: September 08, 2004, 01:32:15 AM
Was the dead spouse female?
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #109 on: September 08, 2004, 01:41:36 AM
Ok, how about a cryptic statement?
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #110 on: September 08, 2004, 01:48:31 AM
The dead spouse was female.

Cryptic statement:

The dead spouse was related to her husband. The husband was a man much admired by Brahms.
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #111 on: September 10, 2004, 01:12:15 PM
Was the husband a well known conductor and composer at the time, but completely forgotten and obscure nowadays?
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #112 on: September 10, 2004, 07:32:28 PM
Seeing that this one has gone for much too long of a time, and people seem  to start losing interest, and you are nowhere near the right track, Ill give you another crytpic statement:

The fact that the origin of the piece stemmed from the spouses death is a little known fact uncovered recently by the investigations of famous musicologist Morimur.
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #113 on: September 11, 2004, 02:30:28 AM
Ahmedito:

If you cannot make a living as a pianist, you certainly have a future as a cryptologist.

The piece is the transcription for left hand of Bach's D minor Chaconne for violin - a piece that German musicologist Helga Thoene claims it was composed as a funeral hommage to Maria Barbara, Bach's first wife.

So the man Brahms had great admiration for was J. S. Bach. The dead spouse who was also a relative is his cousin Maria Barbara.

I rest my case.

(And if I'm wrong, I still have one more chance, right? ;))

Best wishes,
Bernhard.
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #114 on: September 11, 2004, 02:32:18 AM
Musicologist Morimur... ;D ;D ;D

I have that CD! 8)
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #115 on: September 11, 2004, 02:41:33 AM
You got it!

I thought it was easier than that... until I realized that not everyone has that CD. Its awesome. Your turn to start one. No free cryptic statements next time! Better start a new thread though. :)
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Re: Riddle #6
Reply #116 on: September 11, 2004, 04:05:10 AM
Ok, I will start a new thread.
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