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Offline ajspiano

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Oh dear.
on: May 28, 2012, 11:29:44 PM
So a little while ago I was going through some of my grandmothers music and stumbled upon one of those "piano classics" compilations, and have been meaning to share this photo since.

Spot the problem.

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Re: Oh dear.
Reply #1 on: May 28, 2012, 11:31:19 PM
The shadows are obviously photoshopped?

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Re: Oh dear.
Reply #2 on: May 28, 2012, 11:39:33 PM
Might be quite interesting to hear Fur Elise in G major for a change.
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Re: Oh dear.
Reply #3 on: May 28, 2012, 11:44:58 PM
The shadows are obviously photoshopped?
The shadows are quite literally shadows - As my phone (the camera) was between the light and the cd cover. The double shadow created because there is also a flash, that didnt hit the entire cover because the iphone cam is really not designed for a zoomed close up like this.

Maybe you were joking? What would I gain by photoshopping a cd cover to post on a web forum? doesnt that completely remove the humour of the situation since it wouldnt have been a genuine error.

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Re: Oh dear.
Reply #4 on: May 29, 2012, 12:07:08 AM
Might be quite interesting to hear Fur Elise in G major for a change.

I'll never play it in another key henceforth.

I also note a certain umlaut is missing, or the alternative "fuer" spelling.
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Re: Oh dear.
Reply #5 on: May 29, 2012, 12:10:18 AM
I'll never play it in another key henceforth.

You planned on playing it at all?

..That aside -

As a potential buyer of this CD, am I supposed to think this is 119/6, 126/5, or WoO 59

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Re: Oh dear.
Reply #6 on: May 29, 2012, 12:34:50 AM
You planned on playing it at all?
Actually, as someone who never "learnt' it, is not a teacher, so hasn't suffered through teaching it countless times, and a non kiddie-concert goer, I have only ever played or heard it occassionaly.  I'm thus pretty much not of the "OMG I NEVER want to hear that again" school.  Once a decade or so is fine.  ;D

As a potential buyer of this CD, am I supposed to think this is 119/6, 126/5, or WoO 59

Methinks as a potential buyer of that CD, you aren't expected to know the difference.
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Re: Oh dear.
Reply #7 on: May 29, 2012, 12:59:44 AM
The shadows are obviously photoshopped?

The shadows are quite literally shadows - As my phone (the camera) was between the light and the cd cover. The double shadow created because there is also a flash, that didnt hit the entire cover because the iphone cam is really not designed for a zoomed close up like this.

Maybe you were joking? What would I gain by photoshopping a cd cover to post on a web forum? doesnt that completely remove the humour of the situation since it wouldnt have been a genuine error.

Be prepared to encounter these regularly. What most people don't realize is that in the entertainment industry, CGI and photoshop retouches are made to "feel" real. I remember a film using CGI and using realistic parameters for ray tracing. They altered the values at one point to unrealistic parameters because the ray tracing doesn't "feel" real.

Thus, in the internet, you will catch a lot of people labeling a real photo or a real video as fake.

 ::) I recommend that you employ a digital artist to photoshop your real photo, so that it will look real to most people. Oh, the irony of life.

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Re: Oh dear.
Reply #8 on: May 29, 2012, 01:06:10 AM
Might be quite interesting to hear Fur Elise in G major for a change.

What is it with G major and overplayed pieces?  ::)
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Re: Oh dear.
Reply #9 on: May 29, 2012, 01:47:22 AM
Thus, in the internet, you will catch a lot of people labeling a real photo or a real video as fake.

I think I mistakenly assumed that no one would ever bother deliberately looking for a photo or video to alter in order to impress users on a web forum, whom they've never met.   ::)

...Maybe people really do feel the desperate need to up their pianostreet-cred.

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Re: Oh dear.
Reply #10 on: May 29, 2012, 01:51:01 AM
What is it with G major and overplayed pieces?  ::)

Thanks to alicia keys I've run into a few people who think 27/2 first mov. is meant to be in A minor... and that she wrote it.

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Re: Oh dear.
Reply #11 on: May 29, 2012, 02:14:38 AM
Be prepared to encounter these regularly. What most people don't realize is that in the entertainment industry, CGI and photoshop retouches are made to "feel" real. I remember a film using CGI and using realistic parameters for ray tracing. They altered the values at one point to unrealistic parameters because the ray tracing doesn't "feel" real.

Thus, in the internet, you will catch a lot of people labeling a real photo or a real video as fake.

 ::) I recommend that you employ a digital artist to photoshop your real photo, so that it will look real to most people. Oh, the irony of life.


https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RealityIsUnrealistic

and

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheCoconutEffect


yay for tropes!
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Re: Oh dear.
Reply #12 on: May 29, 2012, 02:22:52 AM

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RealityIsUnrealistic

and

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheCoconutEffect


yay for tropes!

That bit about the coconuts was a good laugh.

..It strikes me as odd that the photo is "obviously" photo-shopped. Since it actually isnt, then its not possible for the adjusments (or lack there of) to be obvious. AND, an expert on such matters would likely be able to tell that it hasnt been touched. So, I gather that the poster is not an expert on such things and therefore couldnt possibly be sure that the photo is or isnt edited - thus, querying the authenticity may have been reasonable..   suggesting that its "obviously" photoshopped is a little amusing.

^which is why I figured lelle must just be messing with me.

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Re: Oh dear.
Reply #13 on: May 29, 2012, 03:33:31 AM
Aren't all photos just routinely photoshopped these days. The only one of me that isn't is on my license, and you can really spot the difference.  :P
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Re: Oh dear.
Reply #14 on: May 29, 2012, 06:17:27 PM
The shadows are quite literally shadows - As my phone (the camera) was between the light and the cd cover. The double shadow created because there is also a flash, that didnt hit the entire cover because the iphone cam is really not designed for a zoomed close up like this.

Maybe you were joking? What would I gain by photoshopping a cd cover to post on a web forum? doesnt that completely remove the humour of the situation since it wouldnt have been a genuine error.

I was just kidding, I thought the real problem was obvious haha (and it's also quite common that people on the internet cry out that stuff like this is photoshopped). Who the hell would write that Fur Elise is in G major?  ;D

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Re: Oh dear.
Reply #15 on: May 30, 2012, 09:25:21 PM
Back to the Fur Elise being paired with the wrong key...

I recently attended a children's piano/vocal recital.  One girl was listed in the program as playing "Rondo in G" by Mozart.  Can you imagine how surprised I was when she began play rondo alla turca from Mozart's a major sonata????

What is it with G major and overplayed pieces?  ::)

So I guess the question should be, "What is it with people saying overplayed a minor pieces are actually in g major?" LOL

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Re: Oh dear.
Reply #16 on: May 30, 2012, 11:55:32 PM
I recently attended a children's piano/vocal recital.  One girl was listed in the program as playing "Rondo in G" by Mozart.  Can you imagine how surprised I was when she began play rondo alla turca from Mozart's a major sonata????

 ::) - and you'd have to assume a teacher oversaw the program right? and presented each student? no? ...I would've corrected it verbally before the performance if I was in charge I think..

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Re: Oh dear.
Reply #17 on: May 31, 2012, 06:12:47 AM
::) - and you'd have to assume a teacher oversaw the program right? and presented each student? no? ...I would've corrected it verbally before the performance if I was in charge I think..

The teacher definitely must have compiled the program on her own, but she did not present each student verbally or correct the mistake before the performance.  I know the teacher personally -- I must say she has such a marvelous alto voice, but I'm not sure what to think of her piano teaching.  Especially after this.
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